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#1 User is offline   TXPoppet 

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 04:01 PM

I was at a cocktail party on Saturday and conversation turned to "That Guy". You know him, the one who is an expert on World Affairs and knows just how all major problems should be handled without ever having traveled more than 100 miles from home or picked up a text on current affairs or even a newspaper in his life. My brilliant PhD friend sniffed "Dunning-Kruger Effect". Not being a brilliant PhD, I had to ask what that is.
Here is part of what she told me, see if it doesn't sound familiar to you:

The Dunning-Kruger effect is the phenomenon whereby people who have little knowledge systematically think that they know more than others who have much more knowledge.
They hypothesized that with a typical skill which humans may possess in greater or lesser degree,
1. incompetent individuals tend to overestimate their own level of skill,
2. incompetent individuals fail to recognize genuine skill in others,
3. incompetent individuals fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy,
4. if they can be trained to substantially improve their own skill level, these individuals can recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill. (- lifted from Wikipedia for the purposes of theis post)

Apparently Dunning and Kruger won a Nobel Prize for "discovering" what any guy who's ever overheard a conversation at the 19th Hole can tell you-
Hacks are the biggest loudmouths on the golf course and the only people who say professional golfers aren't real athletes are people who can't play.
So, I've decided that the next time I'm paired with a know-it-all on the golf couse I'll just say Dunning-Kruger Effect!
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Post icon  Posted 26 June 2007 - 04:04 PM

View PostTXPoppet, on Jun 26 2007, 05:01 PM, said:

I was at a cocktail party on Saturday and conversation turned to "That Guy". You know him, the one who is an expert on World Affairs and knows just how all major problems should be handled without ever having traveled more than 100 miles from home or picked up a text on current affairs or even a newspaper in his life. My brilliant PhD friend sniffed "Dunning-Kruger Effect". Not being a brilliant PhD, I had to ask what that is.
Here is part of what she told me, see if it doesn't sound familiar to you:

The Dunning-Kruger effect is the phenomenon whereby people who have little knowledge systematically think that they know more than others who have much more knowledge.
They hypothesized that with a typical skill which humans may possess in greater or lesser degree,
1. incompetent individuals tend to overestimate their own level of skill,
2. incompetent individuals fail to recognize genuine skill in others,
3. incompetent individuals fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy,
4. if they can be trained to substantially improve their own skill level, these individuals can recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill. (- lifted from Wikipedia for the purposes of theis post)

Apparently Dunning and Kruger won a Nobel Prize for "discovering" what any guy who's ever overheard a conversation at the 19th Hole can tell you-
Hacks are the biggest loudmouths on the golf course and the only people who say professional golfers aren't real athletes are people who can't play.
So, I've decided that the next time I'm paired with a know-it-all on the golf couse I'll just say Dunning-Kruger Effect!




Yeah I think I am going to just say Kruger..............kruger kruger............thanks now it all makes sense
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 04:46 PM

I can't help but think that your witty post (which gave me pause to smile) was in some way prompted by any number of men whom you've played with who, no matter how lacking their own game was, didn't hesitate to bury you with swing tips. I was prompted to recall that this phenomenom even extends itself to pro-ams where rank (really bad!) amateurs are brash enough to offer swing advice to female pros...Human nature can be very entertaining...unless of course you are on the recieving end of this while trying to play your round...Thanks for the smile...J
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 02:38 PM

They won an Ig Nobel Prize- a parody of the real Nobel Prize. Tiny difference there
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 02:46 PM

View Postyoonie, on Jun 27 2007, 12:38 PM, said:

They won an Ig Nobel Prize- a parody of the real Nobel Prize. Tiny difference there


Thanks know-it-all!

Just kidding, peace.

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