Jump to content

Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at GolfWRX such as viewing all the images, interacting with members, access to all forums and eligiblility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE GolfWRX account here.

- - - - -

Trackman radiation?


  • Please log in to reply
26 replies to this topic

#1 Ranchobob

Ranchobob

    Seventeen plane swing

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 619 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 293617
  • Joined: 01/26/2014
  • Location:SoCal
  • Handicap:12
GolfWRX Likes : 263

Posted 12 March 2014 - 12:28 AM

Am I the only one who wonders about the long term effects of folks spending hours and hours standing in front of a radar hitting balls?

I realize this may be a staggeringly ignorant concern, but I'm happy to be educated.  

I found this link that basically says, "we don't see any risk, but more studies would be desirable."  http://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs226/en/



Remove This Advertisement Viewing As Guest

    GolfWRX Forums

    Advertisement


Wanna get rid of this ugly yellow box? And remove other annoying "stuff" in between posts? Create a FREE GolfWRX account here.

1

#2 Jc0

Jc0

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,598 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 119066
  • Joined: 12/17/2010
  • Location:Very North
  • Handicap:0
GolfWRX Likes : 197

Posted 12 March 2014 - 12:40 AM

The radiation from a trackman is nothing compared to what you experience everyday. You walk through wifi networks, wireless phones networks, radio wave, stuff coming down from the sun and outer space, and you carry a cell phone in your pocket. Here is a good little info graphic to show how little something like that would actually put off compared to serious sources, http://xkcd.com/radiation/.

2

#3 Krt22

Krt22

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,297 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 261822
  • Joined: 07/05/2013
  • Location:East Bay
GolfWRX Likes : 1551

Posted 12 March 2014 - 12:45 AM

Not to mention Fukashima radiation on the west coast

3

#4 ovib

ovib

    Member

  • Unregistered
  • PipPipPip
  • 152 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 283876
  • Joined: 11/12/2013
GolfWRX Likes : 31

Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:58 AM

Yes you are.
I work for a nuclear reactor designand maintenance company and we have our doses measured every day and we are still far away from any dangerous levels. Same applies to people that actually work on site. Track man will never get close to that so I think you are fine :)
Taylormade R1
                Titleist 913F 15*(set to 16.5*)
                Taylormade Rescue11 19*
                Titleist 714 AP2 4-PW
                                Vokey SM4 50*, TVD-K 56 (bent to 55)
                SC Select Newport 2

4

#5 rbhan12

rbhan12

    Be the person your dog thinks you are.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,880 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 247719
  • Joined: 04/27/2013
  • Location:New York
  • Handicap:99
GolfWRX Likes : 1381

Posted 12 March 2014 - 03:07 AM

An old lady tried to tell me her life changed when she removed all wireless related object out of her home. She felt better, health improved, etc. By the way she said she was an artist.

My mom always told me a little bit of knowledge is dangerous.


5

#6 Ranchobob

Ranchobob

    Seventeen plane swing

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 619 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 293617
  • Joined: 01/26/2014
  • Location:SoCal
  • Handicap:12
GolfWRX Likes : 263

Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:48 PM

View PostKrt22, on 12 March 2014 - 12:45 AM, said:

Not to mention Fukashima radiation on the west coast

I like my sushi glowing.  The place I go to is kind of dimly lit.  ;)

6

#7 TheSphynx

TheSphynx

    My life must not be in order...i still have the cat.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,372 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 171216
  • Joined: 03/26/2012
  • Location:NE Ohio
GolfWRX Likes : 745

Posted 12 March 2014 - 11:35 PM

Trackman radiation isn't ionizing. It doesn't have the ability to disrupt electron bonds within a molecule like an xray photon does.

People should worry about covering their neck (thyroid) when they get a dental xray instead of worrying if a cell phone in your pocket will fry your nut sack.

7

#8 rbhan12

rbhan12

    Be the person your dog thinks you are.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,880 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 247719
  • Joined: 04/27/2013
  • Location:New York
  • Handicap:99
GolfWRX Likes : 1381

Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:04 AM

View PostAGBear, on 12 March 2014 - 11:35 PM, said:

Trackman radiation isn't ionizing. It doesn't have the ability to disrupt electron bonds within a molecule like an xray photon does.

People should worry about covering their neck (thyroid) when they get a dental xray instead of worrying if a cell phone in your pocket will fry your nut sack.

Ah the wonders people learn from science courses

8

#9 TheSphynx

TheSphynx

    My life must not be in order...i still have the cat.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,372 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 171216
  • Joined: 03/26/2012
  • Location:NE Ohio
GolfWRX Likes : 745

Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:10 AM

View Postrbhan12, on 13 March 2014 - 12:04 AM, said:

View PostAGBear, on 12 March 2014 - 11:35 PM, said:

Trackman radiation isn't ionizing. It doesn't have the ability to disrupt electron bonds within a molecule like an xray photon does.

People should worry about covering their neck (thyroid) when they get a dental xray instead of worrying if a cell phone in your pocket will fry your nut sack.

Ah the wonders people learn from science courses

Yes. Science courses. All that went towards a degree and a career dealing with ionizing radiation.

Don't make stupid assumptions.

9

#10 MadGolfer76

MadGolfer76

    Admiration is the state furthest from understanding.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,557 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 89700
  • Joined: 07/26/2009
  • Location:Maine
GolfWRX Likes : 8479

Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:12 AM

I think most folks find themselves much shorter after their first few Trackman sessions, but then the effect seems to normalize.

lol

Mizuno Mp-650 9.5/Matrix HD6
Mizuno Mp-650 13.5, 18/Matrix HD7
Srixon u45 20/?
Srixon z945 4-pw/DG s300
Cleveland (Tour Issue) 588 Rtg 52, 58/DG s400
Bettinardi Studio Stock 6
Srixon Z-Star X

WITB

Remove This Advertisement Viewing As Guest

    GolfWRX Forums

    Advertisement


Wanna get rid of this ugly yellow box? And remove other annoying "stuff" in between posts? Create a FREE GolfWRX account here.

10

#11 blink3665

blink3665

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,407 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 132182
  • Joined: 07/02/2011
  • Location:Seattle
GolfWRX Likes : 1224

Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:17 AM

View PostMadGolfer76, on 13 March 2014 - 12:12 AM, said:

I think most folks find themselves much shorter after their first few Trackman sessions, but then the effect seems to normalize.

lol

Perfect.
Cobra FlyZ Aldila NVS 75-R
Taylormade M2 HL - stock stiff
V Steel 7w S300
Nike Vapor PC DG Pro - R
Edel DVR grind 50/54/58  KBS Tour
Slighter Proto #9 HT Longneck, GT Pro 2.0
Best Tan grips woods-irons
GolfWRX (Nike Collegiate) bag (White) / Titleist StaDry
WITB Link

11

#12 TheSphynx

TheSphynx

    My life must not be in order...i still have the cat.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,372 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 171216
  • Joined: 03/26/2012
  • Location:NE Ohio
GolfWRX Likes : 745

Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:19 AM

I've heard rumors that the radiation from golf galaxy simulators causes genetic mutations that turns the average golfer into a 215 yard 7 iron hitting megabeast

12

#13 Ranchobob

Ranchobob

    Seventeen plane swing

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 619 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 293617
  • Joined: 01/26/2014
  • Location:SoCal
  • Handicap:12
GolfWRX Likes : 263

Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:30 AM

View PostAGBear, on 12 March 2014 - 11:35 PM, said:

Trackman radiation isn't ionizing. It doesn't have the ability to disrupt electron bonds within a molecule like an xray photon does.

People should worry about covering their neck (thyroid) when they get a dental xray instead of worrying if a cell phone in your pocket will fry your nut sack.

Fortunately I'm snipped, so I set that cell phone on vibrate and stick it as deep into my front pocket as it'll go.  :lol:

Thanks, all.  Not something I gave any real worry to, but was curious.

Can you explain ionizing vs non-ionizing radiation?  What's different between my dentist zapping me and Trackman zapping me?

13

#14 rbhan12

rbhan12

    Be the person your dog thinks you are.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,880 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 247719
  • Joined: 04/27/2013
  • Location:New York
  • Handicap:99
GolfWRX Likes : 1381

Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:31 AM

A little bit of physics and chemistry is AMAZING for the soul.

14

#15 rbhan12

rbhan12

    Be the person your dog thinks you are.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,880 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 247719
  • Joined: 04/27/2013
  • Location:New York
  • Handicap:99
GolfWRX Likes : 1381

Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:33 AM

View PostRanchobob, on 13 March 2014 - 12:30 AM, said:

View PostAGBear, on 12 March 2014 - 11:35 PM, said:

Trackman radiation isn't ionizing. It doesn't have the ability to disrupt electron bonds within a molecule like an xray photon does.

People should worry about covering their neck (thyroid) when they get a dental xray instead of worrying if a cell phone in your pocket will fry your nut sack.

Fortunately I'm snipped, so I set that cell phone on vibrate and stick it as deep into my front pocket as it'll go.  :lol:

Thanks, all.  Not something I gave any real worry to, but was curious.

Can you explain ionizing vs non-ionizing radiation?  What's different between my dentist zapping me and Trackman zapping me?

So to make it as simple as possible, x-rays are a much higher energy form of light than radar waves. All molecules have something called ionization potential: the energy needed to cause the bonds of a molecule to break. X-rays have the capability to do such a thing, whereas the trackman radar waves are VERY VERY VERY far from doing so. Make sense? If not shoot either myself or AGBear a PM, I'm sure he'd be just as happy as I am to elaborate further.


15

#16 Ranchobob

Ranchobob

    Seventeen plane swing

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 619 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 293617
  • Joined: 01/26/2014
  • Location:SoCal
  • Handicap:12
GolfWRX Likes : 263

Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:35 AM

Nope, that makes sense.  I've got a passing familiarity with the electromagnetic spectrum, just didn't think it through.  

Thanks!

16

#17 rbhan12

rbhan12

    Be the person your dog thinks you are.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,880 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 247719
  • Joined: 04/27/2013
  • Location:New York
  • Handicap:99
GolfWRX Likes : 1381

Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:40 AM

Sure thing! Just another diagram in case people are wondering.

[attachment=2116073:spectrum.gif]

Basically you have to get past the visibile light spectrum (into UV and higher frequency) to start worrying about health effects. You can have a thousand trackmans pointed right at you and they won't do a damn thing, the frequency of light their sensors exhibit will never be large enough to reach ionization potential.

17

#18 cdndude

cdndude

    Rookie

  • Unregistered
  • PipPip
  • 73 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 292621
  • Joined: 01/20/2014
  • Location:France
  • Handicap:0
GolfWRX Likes : 22

Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:05 AM

Wear lead lined clothes like they do in the hospital!

18

#19 Ri_Redneck

Ri_Redneck

    Leather for Life!!

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 3,822 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 31808
  • Joined: 06/15/2007
  • Location:New England
GolfWRX Likes : 833

Posted 13 March 2014 - 03:05 PM

Don't believe these guys, sell your TrackMan to me NOW!!!!!!!!!!

BT
DR #1. RED Amp Cell Pro w/ ATX Red 65 TX 44.5",
DR #2. BLUE Bio Cell Pro w/ ATX Blue 75 X 44.5"
DR #3. WHITE Fly-Z+ w/ Kiyoshi White 70 X 44.5"
DR #4. Matte Blk Fly-Z+ w/ SpeedrulZ Type A 70 X 44.5"
RED Bio Cell 3-4 W/ 7Q3 S, BLUE King F6 3-4 w/ Speeder 757 BO Ltd., WHITE Fly-Z 3-4 w/ Fubuki Alpha 70 X
RED AC 3-4 w/ 7Q3 S
BLUE Bio Cell 5-7 w/ Speeder 757 S British Open LTD, RED Amp Cell 5-7 w/ 8Q3 S, WHITE Fly-Z 5-7 Fubuki Alpha 80 X
Cobra Amp Cell Pro 4-pw Aldila Rip Tour R
PT#1 Natural Touch Macassar Ebony (rotate)
PT#2 Natural Touch Afzelia Burl (rotate)
Mizuno MP-T4 50-6, 56-12 & 60-8

19

#20 bruinsPATSirish

bruinsPATSirish

    Golf is hard.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,093 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 205445
  • Joined: 10/02/2012
  • Location:Southeast US
  • Handicap:0
GolfWRX Likes : 3273

Posted 13 March 2014 - 03:11 PM

View PostAGBear, on 12 March 2014 - 11:35 PM, said:

Trackman radiation isn't ionizing. It doesn't have the ability to disrupt electron bonds within a molecule like an xray photon does.

People should worry about covering their neck (thyroid) when they get a dental xray instead of worrying if a cell phone in your pocket will fry your nut sack.

Congrats I just sucked water up my nose on that one. Thanks for the good laugh!

bruinsPATSirish WITB!
TaylorMade M1 w/ Matrix Black Tie 7m3 X
Tour Edge Exotics CB4 3 Wood w/ Tour Issue Fubuki ZT 80 X
Titleist 915F 7 Wood Aldila Rogue Black 80 X
TaylorMade RSi TP Irons w/ Project X 6.5
Callaway MackDaddy FORGED 52/56/60 DG TI S200
Bettinardi BB8 DASS TriSole

Remove This Advertisement Viewing As Guest

    GolfWRX Forums

    Advertisement


Wanna get rid of this ugly yellow box? And remove other annoying "stuff" in between posts? Create a FREE GolfWRX account here.

20

#21 robertw

robertw

    Newbie

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 16 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 128604
  • Joined: 05/12/2011
GolfWRX Likes : 5

Posted 13 March 2014 - 03:14 PM

We measured more EMF radiating from our monitors and other every day devices than we did from our Trackman. We were surprised at how low the Trackman reading was.
"...how about an easy 2"

21

#22 From_Parts_Unknown

From_Parts_Unknown

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,228 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 123904
  • Joined: 03/07/2011
GolfWRX Likes : 524

Posted 13 March 2014 - 03:23 PM

So that's why the pros have lead tape on their clubs...

22

#23 grochol17

grochol17

    Tour Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 777 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 80933
  • Joined: 04/22/2009
  • Location:Swarthmore, PA
  • Ebay ID:gsi08284
GolfWRX Likes : 167

Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:57 PM

View Postrbhan12, on 13 March 2014 - 12:40 AM, said:

Basically you have to get past the visibile light spectrum (into UV and higher frequency) to start worrying about health effects.

The only exception to this is if the trackman were using microwaves.  Even though they are very low energy they cause water molecules to vibrate; if you were standing in front of one for long enough, the vibration of the water molecules in your body would cause you to heat up.  In grad school, I had a professor that said he and his friends used to play chicken with the microwave wave guide… they'd each take turns standing in front of it and see who could stay there the longest while they heated up from the inside.  Of course, microwaves only hurt you if you stand in front of them long enough to cook yourself.  The professor lived until he was about 89, playing tennis twice a week until he died of old age.
Titleist 915 D3, 8.5*, Speeder Pro Tour Spec 74 X
Titleist 915 F 14.25*, Speeder VC 8.2 Tour Spec X
Mizuno MP H5, 1&3 iron, C Taper Lite X  
Mizuno MP 25, 4&5 iron, DG X100 SSx1
Mizuno MP 5, 6-PW, DG X100 SSx1
Titleist Vokey Spin Milled CC, 53* & 58*, DG Spinner
Piretti Potenza II Rev 2.0, 375g, 34"
Srixon Z Star 4 Tour Yellow (currently testing the 5th gen Srixons)

23

#24 rbhan12

rbhan12

    Be the person your dog thinks you are.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,880 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 247719
  • Joined: 04/27/2013
  • Location:New York
  • Handicap:99
GolfWRX Likes : 1381

Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:58 PM

View Postgrochol17, on 13 March 2014 - 07:57 PM, said:

View Postrbhan12, on 13 March 2014 - 12:40 AM, said:

Basically you have to get past the visibile light spectrum (into UV and higher frequency) to start worrying about health effects.

The only exception to this is if the trackman were using microwaves.  Even though they are very low energy they cause water molecules to vibrate; if you were standing in front of one for long enough, the vibration of the water molecules in your body would cause you to heat up.  In grad school, I had a professor that said he and his friends used to play chicken with the microwave wave guide… they'd each take turns standing in front of it and see who could stay there the longest while they heated up from the inside.  Of course, microwaves only hurt you if you stand in front of them long enough to cook yourself.  The professor lived until he was about 89, playing tennis twice a week until he died of old age.

Trackman uses radar, so it's radio waves.

24

#25 larrybud

larrybud

    Hall of Fame

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,950 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 21167
  • Joined: 10/31/2006
  • Location:Rochester Hills, MI
  • Handicap:1.7
GolfWRX Likes : 2610

Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:13 PM

View Postrbhan12, on 12 March 2014 - 03:07 AM, said:

An old lady tried to tell me her life changed when she removed all wireless related object out of her home. She felt better, health improved, etc. By the way she said she was an artist.

Of course she did!.  No more text messages or e-mails or phone calls!


25

#26 grochol17

grochol17

    Tour Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 777 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 80933
  • Joined: 04/22/2009
  • Location:Swarthmore, PA
  • Ebay ID:gsi08284
GolfWRX Likes : 167

Posted 14 March 2014 - 12:22 AM

View Postrbhan12, on 13 March 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

View Postgrochol17, on 13 March 2014 - 07:57 PM, said:

View Postrbhan12, on 13 March 2014 - 12:40 AM, said:

Basically you have to get past the visibile light spectrum (into UV and higher frequency) to start worrying about health effects.

The only exception to this is if the trackman were using microwaves.  Even though they are very low energy they cause water molecules to vibrate; if you were standing in front of one for long enough, the vibration of the water molecules in your body would cause you to heat up.  In grad school, I had a professor that said he and his friends used to play chicken with the microwave wave guide… they'd each take turns standing in front of it and see who could stay there the longest while they heated up from the inside.  Of course, microwaves only hurt you if you stand in front of them long enough to cook yourself.  The professor lived until he was about 89, playing tennis twice a week until he died of old age.

Trackman uses radar, so it's radio waves.

Microwaves are on the high energy end of the radio wave regime and considered by some people to be the same part of the spectrum.  From a NASA website on microwaves:

"Radar is an acronym for "radio detection and ranging". Radar was developed to detect objects and determine their range (or position) by transmitting short bursts of microwaves."

But, your point is taken that the trackman people would be smart enough to not use the wavelengths of light that are going to cook their customers.  :)
Titleist 915 D3, 8.5*, Speeder Pro Tour Spec 74 X
Titleist 915 F 14.25*, Speeder VC 8.2 Tour Spec X
Mizuno MP H5, 1&3 iron, C Taper Lite X  
Mizuno MP 25, 4&5 iron, DG X100 SSx1
Mizuno MP 5, 6-PW, DG X100 SSx1
Titleist Vokey Spin Milled CC, 53* & 58*, DG Spinner
Piretti Potenza II Rev 2.0, 375g, 34"
Srixon Z Star 4 Tour Yellow (currently testing the 5th gen Srixons)

26

#27 QEight

QEight

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,444 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 129410
  • Joined: 05/24/2011
  • Location:Finland
  • Handicap:13,8
GolfWRX Likes : 618

Posted 14 March 2014 - 12:52 AM

View Postrbhan12, on 13 March 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

View Postgrochol17, on 13 March 2014 - 07:57 PM, said:

View Postrbhan12, on 13 March 2014 - 12:40 AM, said:

Basically you have to get past the visibile light spectrum (into UV and higher frequency) to start worrying about health effects.

The only exception to this is if the trackman were using microwaves.

Trackman uses radar, so it's radio waves.

Trackman uses microwave area of the radio spectrum (10GHz). But the power is very low.
Ping G15 Titleist 950R Titleist 910D2
Titleist 910f 3W
Callaway XHot hybrid
Titleist 735cm
Vokey wedges
Odyssey Works Versa #1 Tank Tri-Ball SRT
http://www.gamegolf.com/player/luu5

27



0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

GolfWRX Sponsors