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#1 jrodgers0622

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 07:42 PM

Well I ventured over to the PGA Superstore in Duluth, GA yesterday to compare all the new driver options for 2014 against my current R1 with Speeder Tour Spec. I started out by comparing all the major brands offerings such as Taylormade, Callaway, Wilson, Ping, and Cobra. After a solid hour of hitting ball after ball with all the major OEM drivers there was no one club that provided any substantial performance advantage to warrant a purchase. Then I asked the gentleman that was helping me what he thought was the best performing driver in the store. He looked at me and said "you probably won't buy it, but I will grab it for you if you would like", I told him I was willing to play anything if it gave me an advantage. He returned with a Tour Edge XCG7 Beta with a 7m3 black tie in stiff flex. At first I was a little apprehensive but after the first strike I was pleasantly surprised. The XCG7 Beta provided a good ball flight, a solid feel, good numbers, and good looks. Overall distance was only 6 yards on average longer than my R1 but provided a better sound at impact that correlated to better feel. Now I'm trying to convince myself that 6 extra yards and better feel warrants a $350 purchase. Wife says "no" but we all know that really means "if you buy me something nice then you can purchase your driver", LOL.

My Specs:

SS: 103 avg.
Shot: Straight or Baby Fade
Attack: Moderate

Driver Numbers:

R1: Motore Speeder 6.2 TS Stiff

Carry: 245 avg.
Total: 265 avg.
Spin: 2456 avg.

XCG7 Beta: Matrix 7m3 Stiff

Carry: 247 avg.
Total: 271 avg.
Spin: 2287 avg.

X2 Hot Pro: Aldila Tour Green X-stiff

Carry: 244 avg.
Total: 261 avg.
Spin: 3173 avg.

Wilson M3: Aldila NL Stiff

Carry: 243 avg.
Total: 261 avg.
Spin: 2868 avg.

BB Alpha: Fubuki ZT Stiff

Carry: 240 avg.
Total: 257 avg.
Spin: 3348 avg.

I25: Ping Stiff Shaft

Carry: 239 avg.
Total: 255 avg.
Spin: 3532 avg.

Bio Cell: PXV Stiff

Carry: 237 avg.
Total: 251 avg.
Spin: 3752 avg.

R1 - 10* - AXE Tour 6
RBZ S2 Tour - 14.5* - AXE Tour Fwy
RBZ S2 Tour - 18.5*, 21.5* - AXE Tour Hy
Wilson FG Tour V2 - 4-PW - KBS Tour
Versa #1 Wide - 35" - SS 2.0
Callaway MD2 - 52*,58* - KBS Tour S

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 08:39 PM

I love seeing this data.  I am a numbers guy myself.  I just hate knowing there is a better option out there.  Probably a little OCD.  Was dispersion similar with all of them or were you just testing distance?
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Posted 16 February 2014 - 12:14 AM

All were pretty similar when it came to dispersion so distance and feel were my main concern. I'm not a long hitter like most of the guys here but i put the ball where i want it majority of the time. The XCG7 beta was the best combo of feel and distance for me. Here is my top 3 drivers for feel.

Feel:

X2 hot pro - Felt like i was hitting a marshmallow, soft feel and muted sound. Loved it
XCG7 beta - Muted sound with a lively face, a little firmer than the x2 hot pro
BB Alpha - Pretty much identical to the XCG7
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RBZ S2 Tour - 14.5* - AXE Tour Fwy
RBZ S2 Tour - 18.5*, 21.5* - AXE Tour Hy
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Versa #1 Wide - 35" - SS 2.0
Callaway MD2 - 52*,58* - KBS Tour S

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Posted 16 February 2014 - 09:14 AM

Got a stupid follow up question for you, You said you spent about an hour hitting different drivers and comparing them against your current driver. Is this generally acceptable to do at a PGA Superstore, Golfsmith, etc. without serious salesman pressure? I've been playing for about 2 years now with a used Cleveland HiBore. Looking to make a new driver purchase and could use some input as to the best way to find the right driver for me. Thanks in advance for any advise.

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Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:21 AM

When I look at your numbers, it seems to me that the stock shaft on most of the other OEM drivers were not the best shaft for you. The black tie is a stiff, low spin shaft, as is your Motore speeder. That maybe part of the reason why you gravitated to this combo. Don't get me wrong, Tour Exotics makes great clubs, but I bet you would have seen much better numbers in the Callaway, Ping, and Cobra if you had the right shaft for your swing with those heads.

As to your original question, no, 7 yards is not worth $350, but that wouldn't stop most of us anyway.

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Posted 16 February 2014 - 03:59 PM

How many balls did you hit in an hour? For me, the performance would suffer as I became more tired, skewing the results and making the data useless.

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Posted 16 February 2014 - 07:19 PM

View PostCubzFan, on 16 February 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:

Got a stupid follow up question for you, You said you spent about an hour hitting different drivers and comparing them against your current driver. Is this generally acceptable to do at a PGA Superstore, Golfsmith, etc. without serious salesman pressure? I've been playing for about 2 years now with a used Cleveland HiBore. Looking to make a new driver purchase and could use some input as to the best way to find the right driver for me. Thanks in advance for any advise.

I always go on a day that is not very busy and always get there early in the morning so i am not pressured to leave the launch monitor. I was lucky this time to get a very nice and knowledgeable salesman. Best bet is to go early in the morning on a weekday and ask if someone can help you find the right driver for you. Tell them you want to try every driver available, if the salesman rolls his eyes or tries to pressure you to hit a particular club just ask for help from someone else. Hope this helps.
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Posted 16 February 2014 - 07:25 PM

View PostTXTDryFly, on 16 February 2014 - 03:59 PM, said:

How many balls did you hit in an hour? For me, the performance would suffer as I became more tired, skewing the results and making the data useless.

I'm not sure of the exact number i hit but it was quite a few. I hit five balls with each driver then wrote down my numbers then moved to the next one, over and over until i started seeing significant changes in my numbers, then i averaged all the numbers for each driver. Not a perfect system for comparing clubs but as close as i could get it.
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Versa #1 Wide - 35" - SS 2.0
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Posted 16 February 2014 - 07:44 PM

I'm constantly surprised that more people don't like the XCG series driver heads. I find they flat out perform and are almost always lower spin than I'd expect a "GI" driver model to be. That being said, you know the drill. Wait 6-9 months and you can get one for 1/2 the price. Or just trade something(s) in to avoid the sticker shock.
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Posted 16 February 2014 - 07:49 PM

How come you didn't try the Nike covert tour and performance 2.0?

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Posted 16 February 2014 - 09:01 PM

View PostMNNikeGuy, on 16 February 2014 - 07:49 PM, said:

How come you didn't try the Nike covert tour and performance 2.0?

Never been a huge nike fan but honestly i didn't even think to try the nike. I'm sure i will return to pga superstore in a few weeks and try it out. I also forgot to try the Cleveland offerings.
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Posted 16 February 2014 - 09:41 PM

A couple of weeks ago, I was at a Golfsmith store and hit the Adams XTD, TM JetSpeed and the TEE XCG6.  The XCG6 was the longest on the average by 11 yards.

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Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:09 PM

View PostCubzFan, on 16 February 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:

Got a stupid follow up question for you, You said you spent about an hour hitting different drivers and comparing them against your current driver. Is this generally acceptable to do at a PGA Superstore, Golfsmith, etc. without serious salesman pressure? I've been playing for about 2 years now with a used Cleveland HiBore. Looking to make a new driver purchase and could use some input as to the best way to find the right driver for me. Thanks in advance for any advise.

Depends on the store from my experience. There are no Golfsmith's anywhere around me but I went to one when I was in St. Louis on business. They had numerous staff bags filled with literally every single club from the past 2 seasons (wedges, irons and woods), various lofts and flexes for each model. Around 8 Foresight launch monitors were next to the demo clubs so you just grabbed any club and went at it. Sales people barely bugged me at all, it was the best experience ever and if I lived close I'd probably live there. Not sure if all Golfsmith's are like that or not.

Now, my local Golf Galaxy (Pittsburgh) is the complete opposite. There's 2 simulator bays and two larger areas with launch monitors. However, you can't just walk up and use them. You have to find someone and ask to try a club, and the rep will go and grab one from the floor and tape it up and then you take it in and try it. Afterwards they're trying to close the deal - "can I go grab the headcover and meet you at the register?" with that scratched up "new" club. I've bought a bunch of stuff there (mostly apparel and putters) but woods and irons are a tough sell.

I am 1000% more likely to buy in the first scenario, where I can actually spend time to decide on my own if I am seeing performance gains or loving the feel of a club.
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Posted 17 February 2014 - 05:03 AM

View Postjrodgers0622, on 15 February 2014 - 07:42 PM, said:

Well I ventured over to the PGA Superstore in Duluth, GA yesterday to compare all the new driver options for 2014 against my current R1 with Speeder Tour Spec.


Did you not hit the BB?  I dont see numbers on it.  If not, why in the world not? - its outperforming the alpha for lots of people (myself included)  If so, what were your numbers with it?

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 11:53 AM

View Postjrodgers0622, on 15 February 2014 - 07:42 PM, said:

Well I ventured over to the PGA Superstore in Duluth, GA yesterday to compare all the new driver options for 2014 against my current R1 with Speeder Tour Spec. I started out by comparing all the major brands offerings such as Taylormade, Callaway, Wilson, Ping, and Cobra. After a solid hour of hitting ball after ball with all the major OEM drivers there was no one club that provided any substantial performance advantage to warrant a purchase. Then I asked the gentleman that was helping me what he thought was the best performing driver in the store. He looked at me and said "you probably won't buy it, but I will grab it for you if you would like", I told him I was willing to play anything if it gave me an advantage. He returned with a Tour Edge XCG7 Beta with a 7m3 black tie in stiff flex. At first I was a little apprehensive but after the first strike I was pleasantly surprised. The XCG7 Beta provided a good ball flight, a solid feel, good numbers, and good looks. Overall distance was only 6 yards on average longer than my R1 but provided a better sound at impact that correlated to better feel. Now I'm trying to convince myself that 6 extra yards and better feel warrants a $350 purchase. Wife says "no" but we all know that really means "if you buy me something nice then you can purchase your driver", LOL.

My Specs:

SS: 103 avg.
Shot: Straight or Baby Fade
Attack: Moderate

Driver Numbers:

R1: Motore Speeder 6.2 TS Stiff

Carry: 245 avg.
Total: 265 avg.
Spin: 2456 avg.

XCG7 Beta: Matrix 7m3 Stiff

Carry: 247 avg.
Total: 271 avg.
Spin: 2287 avg.

X2 Hot Pro: Aldila Tour Green X-stiff

Carry: 244 avg.
Total: 261 avg.
Spin: 3173 avg.

Wilson M3: Aldila NL Stiff

Carry: 243 avg.
Total: 261 avg.
Spin: 2868 avg.

BB Alpha: Fubuki ZT Stiff

Carry: 240 avg.
Total: 257 avg.
Spin: 3348 avg.

I25: Ping Stiff Shaft

Carry: 239 avg.
Total: 255 avg.
Spin: 3532 avg.

Bio Cell: PXV Stiff

Carry: 237 avg.
Total: 251 avg.
Spin: 3752 avg.

I had a similar experience. I went to PGA superstore with the idea of purchasing the TM SLDR. I hid sldr(460&430) for about 20-30 minutes trying different lofts and never felt good about any of them. Ended up hitting the cobra, mizuno,913 d2 & d3 all with similar results. Rep then came up and asked if I wanted to try something different. He grabbed the xcg7 beta. We tried the white-tie and finally ended up with black tie. I was consistently getting the best numbers  with this club with spin - 2200-2500 range. I ended up adjusting loft all the way up to 12 and was consistently getting 13-15 degree launch. I ended up getting my go to club R11s with projectx 7.0 out of the car to compare with. Hitting ball for ball the xcg7 beta was 10-12 yds longer especially when I went to the X-stiff in the black tie. Needless to say I purchased the club and will be getting out in the next couple days to see if the results show up on the course. I would recommend if you are looking to give this club a try.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 01:36 PM

It was more a product of the shaft than the TEE in my opinion.  The Black Tie had the lowest spin numbers by far, which I believe is the shaft more than the head itself.  Most of those other shafts are higher launching/spinning stock shafts.  I would say that shaft in any of the other heads would give you distance and lower spin.  Same with the Motore...low/low....looks to me like your swing fits something with a low/low profile and a lot of those other stock offerings are closer to mid and high in terms of launch and spin.
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