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#1 Kaos007

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:26 PM

This coming from a 5.5 handicap.

The following is my initial experience with the Formula 5 without ever getting to hit it on the range before putting it to the test. Because of the weather, I did not get to hit it on the range before a recent golf trip, but I played it anyway, being it was a Krank.

I am crossing over from the Krank Rage Black to the Formula 5. My swing speed is in the 107-112 MPH range consistently. I average about 265 at sea level (range with this club typically is 250-285, as measured by my Skycaddie from tee to ball),and about 261 with the Rage Black (up from 241 because of backspin issues with Taylormade drivers). I originally switched to the Rage Black because all the major manf. drivers produced too much backspin for my swing, even with a draw bias. I play a true 8 degree Rage driver and a true 7.5 in the Formula 5 (both with stiff shafts). The Formla 5 is more accurate, that is, more forgiving and I do hit more fairways with the Formula 5 (about 75-80% with the F5 [of course it's still early] versus about 68% with the Rage). I am still in the process of converting from the Rage Black, (which BTW I just love), to the Formula 5. Yes, I still play rounds using the Rage as I love the feel at impact.

The sound of the Formula 5 has taken some getting use to compared to the Rage. The Rage is a more high pitched sound and the F5 is more of a thud or lower pitched solid sound. However, the ball speed is incredible off the face and is noticeable compared to most other drivers I have hit coming off the face. I let a teenage player hit it when he asked about the driver on the range and he commented also about the way the ball jumps off the face. I also let a friend of mine borrow my Krank driver to compare it against his R11. He said that it was a little over 50 degrees and he was hitting into the wind. His conclusion was that he was sold because he could see the noticeable difference in ball speed coming off the face and he pointed out that the carry distance was much better than his R11. He told me later he thought I was exaggerating but now understands what I was telling him about ball speed gains and distance gains.

Obviously, I hit the F5 little lower, (not much and I can tee it a little higher and hit it the same), than my Rage Black and that comes in handy for those windy days. There are days where I hit the Rage with the wind behind me and the F5 into the wind, (mainly because I am still converting and no I don’t violate the number of club rules… :) ) However, I do not have any issues getting either into the air. Although I am still adjusting to the F5, I can say it is more accurate than the Rage. I recently played 11 rounds in Myrtle Beach and had both drivers. Myrtle Beach is at sea level obviously and the air was somewhat heavy all week with temps in the low 70′s. I was typically in the 250-265 range on most drives with the Rage Black and I was in the 255-270 range with the F5. I noticed that on miss-hits the F5 was longer and did not go as far afield right or left as my Rage. The Rage has a stiff Aldila Tour shaft and the F5 has a Fuji Tour stiff shaft, with both cut to 46.25 inches. So, whether it is the face or the shaft that gives more control, I am not sure. One thing I can say is that the F5 face is much bigger than the Rage Black face and has a bigger sweet spot. Personally, I think it is the face and the larger sweet spot that makes it more accurate, as for me, I can’t tell much difference on the way the shafts feel, as both are very good shafts and IMO MUCH better than off-the-shelf drivers.

My conclusion is that it takes some getting use to, even being a Krank head like I am, but it is well worth the price and effort. If you are coming out of a off-the-shelf driver, you will probably will notice a huge difference in ball speed, accuracy and distance gains. I love both drivers!!!! However, I bought the Formula 5 late in the golf season and have not put the Rage Black to bed yet. I will convert totally though in the spring of 2014.

I was recently in a golf store and hit a few different major manufacturer drivers just to see. I hit PING, Taylormade and Calloway drivers. I struggled to get any of the drivers over 250 yards. My typical drive with those drivers was in the 238-245 range. The sound of those at impact did not impress me and the ball speed was noticeably down. My ball speed with the F5 is typically 150-157MPH (typical in the 154-57 range and will hit on occasion 159-160), range and I was consistently seeing low 140's with the mass market drivers.

I was so impressed by the technology at Krank that I purchased their 3W, 3,4 and 5 hybrids that all employ the same technology as their drivers. I will post a review of those once it is warm enough for me to get on my Vector X launch monitor and hit them.

I would recommend that you go to a golf shop and get your numbers and hit some major manufacturer drivers. Give the guys at Krank your ball speed, club speed, back spin, launch angle, shaft length etc. and they can fit you in the right Krank driver. Have fun with your new Krank.

***I had to add this for those that are clueless***

Look, my numbers are what they are and I play at sea level on soft over-watered fairways (and at times a lot of rainfall). If you don't like the numbers then too bad. Many days your drive is what you get, that is CARRY with little or no roll-out.  As I said below "We have a lot of soft courses in VA because they over water them and the roll-out is horrible on most courses here. Between really heavy rain fall at times and over watering, we get a lot of days-weeks where what you carry is what you get (like in plug balls). My numbers walking are very close to both Fightscope, Vector X and my local golf shop. Remember, there are a lot of folks out there that think they can hit it 285 or 300 yards with a 100 or 105 swing speed. Look, the average PGA tour pro swing speed is about 112-113 MPH (ball speed 165ish) and the average carry of about 269. So, with 5-10 MPH less ball speed my distances fit nicely with reality. It is those guys that imagine they are BIG hitters that have a problem with facts. They cut a corner on a dog leg 400 yard par 4 and have 110 to the hole. They imagine they hit their drive 290...lol"...I also have to add this: if my numbers seem low to you, they are lower with EVERY off-the-shelf driver I have hit. So, if you have a more efficient swing, then you will be bombing it :)

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Edited by Kaos007, 15 February 2014 - 01:22 AM.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:37 PM

Hi Kaos,

Thanks for posting the review, however I find it difficult to believe that a new driver could be THAT much better than what is already out there.

To my mind there doesn't seem to be that much that can be done with the technology currently available that would see that much of a difference between the Formula 5 and what is on the shelf today.

However, while you may have experienced those results, I would think the average golfer may not. It's too bad those golfers couldn't sample the Formula 5 before purchasing one.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:41 PM

Hi Sean...it's true. I don't stand to gain anything from giving you guys the truth. Here are a few facts, and they back up Krank claims. "Krank Golf® is unquestionably the authority in distance hitting with 13 RE/MAX World Long Drive Championships, including the 2010 (1st and 2nd), 2011(1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th), 2012 (1st, 2nd and 3rd) and 2013 (1st, 3rd and 4th) Open Division Championships." SO, there must be a technology difference. Plus Krank drivers are not forged, but the heads are assembled from three parts.

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Edited by Kaos007, 13 February 2014 - 10:43 PM.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:58 PM

Hi Krank, thx for stopping by
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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:38 PM

View PostFyteOn, on 13 February 2014 - 09:58 PM, said:

Hi Krank, thx for stopping by

Lol...No I'm not associated with Krank. I am simply a second generation Krank driver owner that knows, by experience from where I speak. That, and I want others to know that there are other GREAT alternatives to mass marketed drivers that, as soon as you buy them, they are out of date. I wish I was associated with them as they have a super product. But, unless you have had the pleasure, it is hard to imagine the difference between Krank drivers and the ones you buy off-the-shelf.

Hey, if you can get me an ownership interest...let me know! lol

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:54 PM

I hit one of the Rank drivers a few weeks ago just to see if it lived up to some of the hype I've heard, both my RFX and SLDR where a tad longer and got a bit less spin then the Rank. It may have been the shaft that held me back a bit, but definitely not enough there to even consider buying.
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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:54 PM

Krank, dang auto correct..
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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:02 PM

Hi kwooten,

It may have been the shaft. I found with my swing, I have a naturally high ball flight. So, I found I needed a lower lofted driver and a HIGH QUALITY low kick shaft. I get both with Krank. However, if you need a higher kick and higher loft, that can be done to. I had a really hard time trying to find the right combo on off-the-shelf drivers. I would be willing to bet if you had the right combo though that you would be a convert. Plus, the Krank face has no grooves which lowers both back spin and side spin right out of the box. If your spin rate increased, I would bet it was the shaft that was in the Krank you hit.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:09 PM

Why don't you try other LD heads like the geek no Brainer or DCT, acropolis ares, MOI heads or any others? They produce a nice product no doubt but the technology isn't any superior than anyone else's. PM me and I will gladly explain to you privately why Krank is having the success they are.

Edited by Jasonfish_02, 13 February 2014 - 11:11 PM.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:25 PM

View PostJasonfish_02, on 13 February 2014 - 11:09 PM, said:

Why don't you try other LD heads like the geek no Brainer or DCT, acropolis ares, MOI heads or any others? They produce a nice product no doubt but the technology isn't any superior than anyone else's. PM me and I will gladly explain to you privately why Krank is having the success they are.

Hi Jasonfish,

I did a lot of research prior to buying my first Krank (Rage Black). I was totally impressed with Krank results on the LD circuit. Krank drivers just keep performing, event after event and year after year. I have not seen any of the other heads that can keep up. Pretty much, the main manufacturers have been non performers in past years to a larger degree, with the exception of a few. There was just not sufficient reason for me to hit a Geek, or no brainer etc. I considered them, but they had no track record. The other thing that I liked about them is that the vast majority of Krank sales are to non-long drive customers, that like me, can gain a huge gain in performance. Cheers...

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:33 PM

Despite the denial, this still sounds like an infomercial...
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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:40 PM

Ill take your Swing Speed any day with a PING, Callaway, Taylormade or even a Tommy Armour Driver. Should not be difficult to get 250 yds unless you are doing something highly unorthodox ?
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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:43 PM

View PostVanBTs, on 13 February 2014 - 11:33 PM, said:

Despite the denial, this still sounds like an infomercial...

Lol...Van, I can assure you it's not. I am a regular Joe that is tired of seeing a new Calloway, PING, Taylormade etc. driver being released every 6 months claiming distance and accuracy gains. My review speaks for itself. I gain nothing from my review other than the satisfaction of showing others that there are alternatives, and in this case, better alternatives. Believe me or no, I really don't care. I own 2 Krank drivers and will probably buy the next generation when it comes out. Because you do not believe or you doubt, does not make it so. I have hit the popular drivers and Krank drivers. IMO, there is no comparison in ball speed gains my experience. I understand that there are people that do not like them and that is okay. But, dude, this is not an infomercial. It is a regular golfer trying to get the facts out...

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Edited by Kaos007, 14 February 2014 - 12:41 AM.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 12:08 AM

View Postsettling4birdie, on 13 February 2014 - 11:40 PM, said:

Ill take your Swing Speed any day with a PING, Callaway, Taylormade or even a Tommy Armour Driver. Should not be difficult to get 250 yds unless you are doing something highly unorthodox ?

Hi Settling4birdie,

Remember, I am at sea level. An example may help. A 150 ball speed with a 15 degree launch angle will produce a carry of 254 with 2750 backspin per Vector X (253 per FlightScope). A drop in ball speed of 8MPH, holding all else the same, results in a carry of 237 per Vector X (236 per Flightscope). So, the head has a big impact on distance. I did not consider roll-out in my analysis. Given firm conditions, that will result in another 5-15 yards (depending on the hole). A lower spin head will result in a much longer drive (total) versus a higher spin head. Clubhead speed may or may not, depending on your contact efficiency, produce greater ball speed. If your swing is efficient higher clubhead speed will translate into higher ball speed. I have seen a lot of examples where higher swing speeds do not translate into greater ball speed because the golfer was not hitting the sweet spot of the face.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 12:43 AM

With a Swing Speed of 107 mph at sea level, a 150 mph ball speed means you have a 1.40 smash factor.

A 1.40 smash factor means you are not transferring the energy from the clubhead to the ball very efficiently. Typically you want that number from 1.46 on up to 1.5 which is the max.

Seeing how your a 5 handicap, Im sure your smash factor is better than 1.40. Perhaps your swing speed was measured incorrectly ? The numbers just don't make sense that is all.

A semi-decent strike near the center of the face should produce ball speeds of at least 155 mph if your swing speed really is 107 mph.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 12:56 AM

View Postsettling4birdie, on 14 February 2014 - 12:43 AM, said:

With a Swing Speed of 107 mph at sea level, a 150 mph ball speed means you have a 1.40 smash factor.

A 1.40 smash factor means you are not transferring the energy from the clubhead to the ball very efficiently. Typically you want that number from 1.46 on up to 1.5 which is the max.

Seeing how your a 5 handicap, Im sure your smash factor is better than 1.40. Perhaps your swing speed was measured incorrectly ? The numbers just don't make sense that is all.

A semi-decent strike near the center of the face should produce ball speeds of at least 155 mph if your swing speed really is 107 mph.

I was giving you "hypothetical data" in my example because I can retrieve that most readily from both Vector X and Flightscope, that is, I can input variables into either program and get what the carry should be, so those were Vector X and Flightscope numbers and not mine. In reality, "walking" the distances with the Skycaddie, the numbers are as I said in my review. The F5, with my swing at sea level, averages 265 (with a range of 250-285). My best drive in 2013 was 321 but the conditions were dry, the hole was slightly downhill and I "got it all". My swing speed does on occasion get up to 117 or 118, but that is rare. As I said, my swing speed is consistently 107-112 MPH. So, you are correct that my smash factor is better than 1.40...Sorry I was not clear with my example.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 02:48 AM

Kaos

again there is a reason why Krank is winning in LD. Ever wonder why when Miller was hitting Krank he was 226 ballspeed but was 215ish this year hitting cally and how he somehow lost 10mph ballspeed? Between any manufacturer(major OEM or small component company) everyone has to play within the rules set forth by the USGA regarding drivers. Now how a company interprets those rules is their decision. But 1 interesting fact is There is only 1 way to significantly increase distance in a driver head these days(not a few yards, but considerable gains). Take what you want from that average joe consumer but if you really want to know why feel free to PM me. If not continue to enjoy the extra yards you're getting.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 09:50 AM

What Krank should consider is passing some of these Formula's to GolfWRX for testing.

Three to be precise: one for the low HI, one for the mid, and one for the high HI.

Nothing beats real world testing. :-)
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Posted 14 February 2014 - 09:58 AM

I can understand the LD drivers like Krank et al have stronger faces to stand up to the beating a true LDer puts on it, but have a hard time seeing how a LD driver offers any benefits to a slow or medium to medium-fast ( < 120mph) swinger over commercial offerings which are just as maxes out.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 01:49 PM

View PostFyteOn, on 13 February 2014 - 09:58 PM, said:

Hi Krank, thx for stopping by

kaos - What perfect timing on joining the forum and posting up your review since the Formula ranked at the very bottom of the m_ y golf spy dot com driver test.  Hopefully your unbiased review will make up for the disappointing rank in m_y golf spy's test!  :superman2:

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 02:45 PM

Sorry Kaos, but if you are swinging the club 107-112 and aren't hitting this club longer than 270 (285 max, per your skycaddie measurements), then there is a problem.  Those numbers just don't make sense.

You were either getting ZERO roll-out, had a poorly fit shaft or a driver with a dead face.
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Posted 14 February 2014 - 02:54 PM

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 03:06 PM

Back to reality.......
Not sure why you are taking Trackman maxed out figures based off 2750 rpm when we now know that is too high for optimum distance. 1700-2200 depending on how SLDR keen you are.

It's absolutely great that you say you are happy with the Krank, but no way you have been fit properly into any other driver based on your swing speed figures.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 03:09 PM

Krank has some BADAZZ headcovers, love 'em!

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 10:29 PM

Look, as has been said by others, your numbers just don't add up, and even if they did and while this is a great driver for you, there is one area that you didn't bring up that is very important with any club, though it's CRITICAL with a club like this, where you don't see, swing or touch the club till you've bought it, and that is customer service.

And in two words-

KRANK SUX

I've never seen someone duck and dance and bull$hit like Vince did during the spring through fall of '13.

And if you would like to read his words, please e-mail me at rpjii at me dot com and I will give you the address info and you can read HIS words and those of CUSTOMERS BEGGING for the truth.

And please, spare me that it was Fuji and a shaft issue.

Vince and Lance KNOW it wasn't on Fuji, as does anyone else with an IQ north of 90 who was privy.

And I own an Element(Formula 5) w/a Fuji Tour XS, though because of some things going on presently, I haven't had a chance to hit it.

Also, there was a little driver test done up the road a bit, and the Formula 5 didn't do $hit in it.

You wanna look at THOSE numbers, again, e-mail me and I'll give you the address.

I don't mean to throw a wrench into this, however I put a premium on a man's word, and Vince's word isn't worth $hit, because he speaks what I refer to as the "situational" truth-

He makes the truth fit the situation.

So, that's great that you got such great results, and regarding LD competition and using that as a reason these guys should run out and buy the club is like saying that they should all go buy Nike drivers to "be like Tiger," or TMaG's cuz most of the guys on the line are hittin em on Thursday.

C'mon Dude, you're better than this.

I can tell by your tone that you love it and you believe in it, and that's great.

But there's more to it than just a product, and KRANK falls woefully short.

And if Vince fell on the sword for Lance, so be it, then you can substitute Lance's name for Vince's above.

If EVER the phrase BUYER BEWARE was applicable, it's when dealing with KRANK, VINCE & LANCE.

I read too many posts of good, hard working guys BEGGING for the truth.

BEGGING for a response.

And all that they got, when they did get a response was-

BULL$HIT!!!

As always is the case when I speak, I speak for absolutely no one but myself and this is just my humble opinion


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:47 PM

View PostForged4ever1, on 14 February 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Look, as has been said by others, your numbers just don't add up, and even if they did and while this is a great driver for you, there is one area that you didn't bring up that is very important with any club, though it's CRITICAL with a club like this, where you don't see, swing or touch the club till you've bought it, and that is customer service.

And in two words-

KRANK SUX

I've never seen someone duck and dance and bull$hit like Vince did during the spring through fall of '13.

And if you would like to read his words, please e-mail me at rpjii at me dot com and I will give you the address info and you can read HIS words and those of CUSTOMERS BEGGING for the truth.

And please, spare me that it was Fuji and a shaft issue.

Vince and Lance KNOW it wasn't on Fuji, as does anyone else with an IQ north of 90 who was privy.

And I own an Element(Formula 5) w/a Fuji Tour XS, though because of some things going on presently, I haven't had a chance to hit it.

Also, there was a little driver test done up the road a bit, and the Formula 5 didn't do $hit in it.

You wanna look at THOSE numbers, again, e-mail me and I'll give you the address.

I don't mean to throw a wrench into this, however I put a premium on a man's word, and Vince's word isn't worth $hit, because he speaks what I refer to as the "situational" truth-

He makes the truth fit the situation.

So, that's great that you got such great results, and regarding LD competition and using that as a reason these guys should run out and buy the club is like saying that they should all go buy Nike drivers to "be like Tiger," or TMaG's cuz most of the guys on the line are hittin em on Thursday.

C'mon Dude, you're better than this.

I can tell by your tone that you love it and you believe in it, and that's great.

But there's more to it than just a product, and KRANK falls woefully short.

And if Vince fell on the sword for Lance, so be it, then you can substitute Lance's name for Vince's above.

If EVER the phrase BUYER BEWARE was applicable, it's when dealing with KRANK, VINCE & LANCE.

I read too many posts of good, hard working guys BEGGING for the truth.

BEGGING for a response.

And all that they got, when they did get a response was-

BULL$HIT!!!

As always is the case when I speak, I speak for absolutely no one but myself and this is just my humble opinion


Yours in the game,
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Wow Forged...you're an angry man...lol. Why attack me because I have had a great result with Krank and am a happy customer?!

Hey look, my numbers are what they are. I know my own swing and numbers. We have a lot of soft courses in VA because they over water them and the roll-out is horrible on most courses here. Between really heavy rain fall at times and over watering, we get a lot of days-weeks where what you carry is what you get (like in plug balls). My numbers walking are very close to both Fightscope, Vector X and my local golf shop. Remember, there are a lot of folks out there that think they can hit it 285 or 300 yards with a 100 or 105 swing speed. Look, the average PGA tour pro swing speed is about 112-113 MPH (ball speed 165ish) and the average carry of about 269. So, with 5-10 MPH less ball speed my distances fit nicely with reality. It is those guys that imagine they are BIG hitters that have a problem with facts. They cut a corner on a dog leg 400 yard par 4 and have 110 to the hole. They imagine they hit their drive 290...lol. Dude tell it to someone that wants to hear it and that knows better...lol

As for Krank...I have had nothing but pleasant dealings with Lance and Vince both. Both have struck me as straight shooters and are very knowledgeable about what they do. I am not sure what your issues with them personally are and I do not care to know as that is between you and them. Your explanation is hearsay and I am sure they would have a different take on your position.

I agree with you on one point, that is, I wish they had more driver fitting locations available. But, they, like a lot of the smaller non-mainstream (like Geek and NB etc.) driver manufactures don't have the marketing budgets of the majors. It takes time to grow and expand markets. They have made a lot of progress in a relatively short period of time (compared to the majors and their head start).

Dude...this is just my experience with Krank drivers. They work for me and they work for a lot of other folks. Just because you have issues with Lance and Vince, don't spew your hatred at me. I am a happy customer. I have gotten the results they promised me both from the Rage Black and from the F5. Hey, if it does not work for you then that is fine. By all means, go buy a major driver every 6 months and have it be outdated as soon as you buy it. More power to you dude! I am pulling for you. If you say you get better results from a given major driver who am I to call you a liar? You get a better result, you get a better result...go with it.

But please...take this anger elsewhere dude...

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