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[vinerino]

I am LH.  and age 65 with SS of 88.
I ordered a Cobra Bio Cell. please understand it is very difficult for a LH to have the same choices as RH. I have driver being delivered on Monday with stock Project X shaft. What i am looking for is the best shaft possible for me. I have a tendency to have too high a spin rate so my ball only goes about 205 yds with little roll.
I am making adjustments in my swing (I would normally bring club back and create little torque between lower body and upper half....doing better.)
i also went to a lower compression ball.
My question has to do with shafts. I am getting Project X-px-V shaft but was told to look at Graphite Design Tour Ad-Di or Oban Kyoshi Gold. As a reference I hit a 7 iron about 145 yds and am looking to have a driver that travels 225...nothing spectacular but good enough for me. I have been told the shaft is the engine and wondered if anyone had any opinion about the 3 shafts mentioned. thank you

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[johnnythunders]

I would stick with the stock shaft to start with given your swing speed and high spin swing. I have the same problem. I haven't found that going to premium shafts like the Graphite Design Tour Ad-Di or Oban Kyoshi Gold yield any distance gains. I tried thje Obsm purple and a bunch of Matrix shafts and they did not improve my distamce much. Not woth the $350 a shaft for sure. They are for higher swing speeds and are heavir shafts usually.

High spin with a slow swing speed is a tough to fix with equipment. I've found going to a tip stiff shaft in a somwhat  flexible design is the best for distance and accurcy.

I play the Cobra Encore ZLE and replaced the stock shaft with two different shafts. I have the AXE xCaliber Tour 65 gram in regular at 44.50". that is my accuracy shaft, tip stiff takes alot spin off and goes a good distance. My distance shaft is the AXE Xcaliber Tour SL at 49 grams in regular at 45", not as tip stiff and goes farther but is less accurate.

I also just bought a Bio Cell also and get it next week. Im going to put the new AXE Xcaliber SWD50 in regular at 45 in it, Its has a stiffer tip section than my Tour SL. At $100 for shaft and tip, much better deal than the premium shaftss and Golfworks can put it together for you if your not handy with clubs.

Good luck on your search for distance.

[vinerino]

johnnythunders, on 14 February 2014 - 06:53 AM, said:

I would stick with the stock shaft to start with given your swing speed and high spin swing. I have the same problem. I haven't found that going to premium shafts like the Graphite Design Tour Ad-Di or Oban Kyoshi Gold yield any distance gains. I tried thje Obsm purple and a bunch of Matrix shafts and they did not improve my distamce much. Not woth the $350 a shaft for sure. They are for higher swing speeds and are heavir shafts usually.

High spin with a slow swing speed is a tough to fix with equipment. I've found going to a tip stiff shaft in a somwhat  flexible design is the best for distance and accurcy.

I play the Cobra Encore ZLE and replaced the stock shaft with two different shafts. I have the AXE xCaliber Tour 65 gram in regular at 44.50". that is my accuracy shaft, tip stiff takes alot spin off and goes a good distance. My distance shaft is the AXE Xcaliber Tour SL at 49 grams in regular at 45", not as tip stiff and goes farther but is less accurate.

I also just bought a Bio Cell also and get it next week. Im going to put the new AXE Xcaliber SWD50 in regular at 45 in it, Its has a stiffer tip section than my Tour SL. At $100 for shaft and tip, much better deal than the premium shaftss and Golfworks can put it together for you if your not handy with clubs.

Good luck on your search for distance.

I will stick with Stock Shaft....Driver arrives Monday.
On Tuesday, there is a Cobra Demo Day and I will see if the Tour AD-Di or Oban Kiyoshi gold is there to try.
Just received my Cobra Bio Cell hybrids...AWESOme
Also received my Callaway X2 Hot Irons w/ graphite shafts...Awesome
I also got the X Hot2 3 wood and hit it very well. I am happy with all purchases but if Cobra Bio Cell 3 wood goes like their hybrids, maybe that was the club I should have got. oh Well...fingers crossed that Bio Cell Driver performs like their hybrids. Thanks

[jay65]

I just picked up my Bio Cell Driver, went to try it on the range. My Pro didn't have his Flightscope at the Course, as his Asst is using it at another Course today. Not that it would have been much use anyway, as the weather over here in the UK is atrocious. 25-30mph head wind, pouring with rain, freezing cold, and only the good old Srixon one piece range balls to hit with today, so it was next to useless to try and make analytical comments. The only thing that I would say, is that I can see why they ditched the Oban Kiyoshi White this year in favour of the Gold. I can deduce that with the Kiyoshi White that I have, I have to go up in loft to 11.5* to get the best out of it!! It's a very low spinning combo with the Kiyoshi White. Almost too low spinning.

I'll have to try it in slightly better weather with pukka Golf Balls, but I can see that I may have to trade the Kiyoshi White for something with a little more spin, because of how low spinning the head is.

I can see with the right shaft it's going to be a great Driver, but with the terrible weather, headwind, and cold Srixon range balls it will be work in progress, but if it doesn't work out, I may have to look for a slightly higher spinning shaft.

[doctorjedi]

Which shaft did you order your Bio in?

vinerino, on 13 February 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

I am LH.  and age 65 with SS of 88.
I ordered a Cobra Bio Cell. please understand it is very difficult for a LH to have the same choices as RH. I have driver being delivered on Monday with stock Project X shaft. What i am looking for is the best shaft possible for me. I have a tendency to have too high a spin rate so my ball only goes about 205 yds with little roll.
I am making adjustments in my swing (I would normally bring club back and create little torque between lower body and upper half....doing better.)
i also went to a lower compression ball.
My question has to do with shafts. I am getting Project X-px-V shaft but was told to look at Graphite Design Tour Ad-Di or Oban Kyoshi Gold. As a reference I hit a 7 iron about 145 yds and am looking to have a driver that travels 225...nothing spectacular but good enough for me. I have been told the shaft is the engine and wondered if anyone had any opinion about the 3 shafts mentioned. thank you

[vinerino]

doctorjedi, on 15 February 2014 - 11:12 AM, said:

Which shaft did you order your Bio in?

vinerino, on 13 February 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

I am LH.  and age 65 with SS of 88.
I ordered a Cobra Bio Cell. please understand it is very difficult for a LH to have the same choices as RH. I have driver being delivered on Monday with stock Project X shaft. What i am looking for is the best shaft possible for me. I have a tendency to have too high a spin rate so my ball only goes about 205 yds with little roll.
I am making adjustments in my swing (I would normally bring club back and create little torque between lower body and upper half....doing better.)
i also went to a lower compression ball.
My question has to do with shafts. I am getting Project X-px-V shaft but was told to look at Graphite Design Tour Ad-Di or Oban Kyoshi Gold. As a reference I hit a 7 iron about 145 yds and am looking to have a driver that travels 225...nothing spectacular but good enough for me. I have been told the shaft is the engine and wondered if anyone had any opinion about the 3 shafts mentioned. thank you

Project X PX-v is their stock shaft

[vinerino]

Project X PX-v is not working for me on Cobra Bio Cell.
I can hit it and perhaps a little farther than Ping G25 but I find it to be a little heavy. Paying an upcharge and switching to Graphite Design G Series 40...a 50 gram shaft.
I still hit the Ping g25 very well...however, I am always looking to hit some as straight but farther
Wish me luck!

[StezzGolfer]

Is the stock shaft (PXv) that comes with the Bio Cell a real deal? Or is it a 'made for' shaft? How about the Bio Cell+ with the Diamana and Matrix?

[jay65]

The Project X is a 'made for' the Matrix and Diamana D+ in the + head are real deal, apparently.

[mikec3672]

johnnythunders, on 14 February 2014 - 06:53 AM, said:

I would stick with the stock shaft to start with given your swing speed and high spin swing. I have the same problem. I haven't found that going to premium shafts like the Graphite Design Tour Ad-Di or Oban Kyoshi Gold yield any distance gains. I tried thje Obsm purple and a bunch of Matrix shafts and they did not improve my distamce much. Not woth the $350 a shaft for sure. They are for higher swing speeds and are heavir shafts usually.

High spin with a slow swing speed is a tough to fix with equipment. I've found going to a tip stiff shaft in a somwhat  flexible design is the best for distance and accurcy.

I play the Cobra Encore ZLE and replaced the stock shaft with two different shafts. I have the AXE xCaliber Tour 65 gram in regular at 44.50". that is my accuracy shaft, tip stiff takes alot spin off and goes a good distance. My distance shaft is the AXE Xcaliber Tour SL at 49 grams in regular at 45", not as tip stiff and goes farther but is less accurate.

I also just bought a Bio Cell also and get it next week. Im going to put the new AXE Xcaliber SWD50 in regular at 45 in it, Its has a stiffer tip section than my Tour SL. At $100 for shaft and tip, much better deal than the premium shaftss and Golfworks can put it together for you if your not handy with clubs.

Good luck on your search for distance.

Did you have to add weight to the head at that length as the ZLE plays standard at 45.74"?

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[WVP]

At a sub 90 mph swing speed, I'd be surprised if too much spin was your problem.

[skraly]

johnnythunders, on 14 February 2014 - 06:53 AM, said:

I would stick with the stock shaft to start with given your swing speed and high spin swing. I have the same problem. I haven't found that going to premium shafts like the Graphite Design Tour Ad-Di or Oban Kyoshi Gold yield any distance gains. I tried thje Obsm purple and a bunch of Matrix shafts and they did not improve my distamce much. Not woth the $350 a shaft for sure. They are for higher swing speeds and are heavir shafts usually.

High spin with a slow swing speed is a tough to fix with equipment. I've found going to a tip stiff shaft in a somwhat  flexible design is the best for distance and accurcy.

I play the Cobra Encore ZLE and replaced the stock shaft with two different shafts. I have the AXE xCaliber Tour 65 gram in regular at 44.50". that is my accuracy shaft, tip stiff takes alot spin off and goes a good distance. My distance shaft is the AXE Xcaliber Tour SL at 49 grams in regular at 45", not as tip stiff and goes farther but is less accurate.

I also just bought a Bio Cell also and get it next week. Im going to put the new AXE Xcaliber SWD50 in regular at 45 in it, Its has a stiffer tip section than my Tour SL. At $100 for shaft and tip, much better deal than the premium shaftss and Golfworks can put it together for you if your not handy with clubs.

Good luck on your search for distance.

Curious what you think of the AXE SWD50?  I have been thinking of getting one.  I see you chose the R flex.  What are your swing characteristics?  Thanks.

[Marengo]

How do you normally hit your drives?  High?  Low?  Do you slice/hook?  Figuring out what a better shaft is may be tough without more info  

I have a SS just a tad above yours and have the BioCell cranked all the way up to 12*. I am a naturally low spin hitter anyway so I need to compensate with higher lofted drivers/woods. I think my SS is around 92-93 and can pretty consistently get it out around the 225 mark. Maybe messing around with the settings might help?