I have a new copy of Tiger Woods '07 for the PC on DVD that I don't need. It goes to the first correct answer posted here to the following question.......
What was arguably the first civil war in golf? Hint: It has nothing to do with Oregon.
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I am confused. Are we talking about this side of the pond or anywhere? Anyway, here is my guess. It is not a golf match but an actual war. In 1560, the Leith Links were the scene of the Siege of Leith on the Scottish by the English.
Taking a stab in the dark...Presidents Cup held in Manassas, VA at Robert Trent Jones Golf Course...first battle of the Civil War was in Manassas...maybe?
I'll take a shot. Here is a blurb from The Golf War
When Filipino peasants resist converting their ancestral farmland into a golf resort, they face a bloody struggle against developers and their government. Tracking down both armed guerrillas and golf boosters, including Tiger Woods, the filmmakers reveal a larger, national battle over land and revolution in what the LA Times called a "bombshell of an expose."
Peasants in a beachfront community called Hacienda Looc have been tilling their land for generations. But, the Filipino government decided to follow a U.S. Agency for International Development-funded report that recommended the area instead be used for tourism. The government illegally sold the peasants' land for less than it's worth to the Manila South coast Development Corporation (MSDC). To cover itself, the government later claimed that this fertile mountainous area and tropical paradise was not suited for agriculture. Fil-Estate Land, Inc. is working with the MSDC to develop the Hacienda Looc land into a four-course golf and tourist resort.
When the peasants who live on the land learned of this takeover, they formed an organization called Umalpas-Ka, a chapter of the larger national peasant federation KMP. The developers are working in collusion with the military, as well as with national and local politicians. Meanwhile, three peasant opponents of the golf course construction have been killed. Consequently, many peasants have supported the New People's Army's offer to protect their families and their land.
As well as that early claim to fame, Leith, the best course of the time, also held the first known international match. Here two players for Scotland, one of them the then Duke of York, who had his clubs carried by one Andrew Dickson who therefore became the first recorded caddy in history, had a home win against two visiting English noblemen in 1682.
Not quite sure if i've got the societies right, but is it the Royal and Ancient Golf Club of St.Andrews against The Royal Society of Edinbrough Golfers?
Is it the international golf match between England and Scotland in 1681 at Leith Links? The English believed that golf was an English game, and the Scottis did likewise and in the resulting golf match the Duke of York came out on top against King Charles II.
David Watson's answer referring to the international golf match was going to be my original answer but I think I can now predate that. Does this hold the answer?
Leith has a long and prominent role in Scottish history. As the major port access to Edinburgh, Leith has served as the staging point for many of Scottish history's significant events. Mary Queen of Scots' mother - Mary of Guise - ruled Scotland from Leith, as Regent for her daughter in 1560. At that time the Scottish Court was situated in Leith. The Regency ended in disaster with French Catholic troops being ousted by Scottish forces aided by English Protestant troops. The following year Mary Queen of Scots arrived in Leith to begin her ill-fated six year reign.
About a century later, Leith was both a battleground and ultimately headquarters for Oliver Cromwell forces. An archway of the old Leith Citadel stands as the only remnant of extensive Cromwellian fortifications forced upon Leith following the move north of a roundhead army.
The remains of the battlefield are now a park called the Leith Links and the grassy mounds mark former cannon emplacement earthworks.This was also where the earliest record of golf was found; it was the subject of a ban by King James II in 1457 as it interfered with the more useful sport of archery. The links are the site of an early five hole golf course built in the 18th century. Leith bolsters its claim to being "the home of golf" because the official rules of golf, initially formulated at Leith in 1744 by the Honorable Company of Edinburgh Golfers, were later adopted by St Andrews.
The first mention of golf in relation to Leith dates from a reported dispute in 1552 between ‘the cordiners (cobblers) of the Cannongate and the cordiners and gouff ball makers of North Leith’
Leith was the site of some of the first attacks and injuries in golf. The first of these was 1575 when golfers were attacked and fought back successfully.
Of course, the most famous single golf event on the Leith Links was on 2nd April 1744; the occasion of the first golf competition anywhere in the world arranged by a group of golfers who were to become known as the Honourable Company of Edinburgh Golfers.
Some good history lessons here, but no correct answer. To be fair, I will allow each person who has already answered (and some of you twice) the opportunity to answer only ONE more time. And also, a little explanation by the intent of the question. A civil war is when fellow Countrymen fight against one another. Perhaps I have this wrong, but I believe technically, Scotland and England never had a civil war. They were in civil wars among themselves and the lines are blurry as to what group supported what King and that doesn't include wars/battles between the Scots and English (which again is technically not a civil war). I used the term in the question not that literal. It's more of a civil war on a smaller scale.
1682 - In the first recorded international golf match, the Duke of York and John Paterstone of Scotland defeat two English noblemen in a match played on the links of Leith. Andrew Dickson, carrying clubs for the Duke of York, is the first recorded caddy.
In 1724, ‘a solemn match at golf’, the first reported in a newspaper, took place on Leith Links, between the Honourable Alexander Elphinstone and Captain John Porteous of the City Guard for a stake of 20 guineas (22 pounds). Both men would be further reported in the press. Alexander Elphinstone fought a duel at Leith Links in 1729. Then in 1736, Captain Porteous gave his name to the Porteous Riots, as a result of which several Edinburgh citizens were shot and he was lynched later by a mob when he was pardoned for his part these deaths.
1682 - In the first recorded international golf match, the Duke of York and John Paterstone of Scotland defeat two English noblemen in a match played on the links of Leith. Andrew Dickson, carrying clubs for the Duke of York, is the first recorded caddy.
Ach! This was already posted. It must be this one then...
Edinburgh Burgh records of 1593 bemoan the fact that Edinburgh churchgoers were playing golf in Leith instead of going to church. On 16th February 1610, South Leith Kirk Session proposed a fine of 20 shillings (one pound) to be paid ‘to the poor’ by anyone found playing golf (or bowls or archery) between sunrise and sunset on Sunday. Apart from the fine, they would also have to confess their sins in church. This persecution continued until 1724, which year marks the last official Kirk prosecution in Scotland for Sunday golfing, when the Leith innkeeper John Dickson was accused of giving victuals to Sabbath golfers.
1641 - Charles I is playing golf at Leith when he learns of the Irish rebellion, marking the beginning of the English Civil War. He finishes his round.
1641 - Charles I is playing golf at Leith when he learns of the Irish rebellion, marking the beginning of the English Civil War. He finishes his round.
In 1774 players of Leith Links in Scotland requested to form a golf club and proper rules to be written, and "Articles and Laws in Playing Golf - The Rules of The Gentlemen Golfers of Leith" was formed. The rules stated as follows, "
1. You must tee your ball within one club's length of the hole.
2. Your tee must be on the ground.
3. You are not to change the ball which you strike off the tee.
4. You are not to remove stones, bones or any break club for the sake of playing your ball, except on the fair green, and that only within a club's length of your ball.
5. If your ball comes among water, or any watery filth, you are at liberty to take out your ball and bringing it behind the hazard and teeing it, you may play it with any club and allow your adversary a stroke for so getting out your ball.
6. If your balls be found anywhere touching one another you are to lift the first ball till you play the last.
7. At holing you are to play your ball honestly for the hole, and not to play upon your adversary's ball, not lying in your way to the hole.
8. If you should lose your ball, by its being taken up, or any other way, you are to go back to the spot where you struck last and drop another ball and allow your adversary a stroke for the misfortune.
9. No man at holeing his ball is to be allowed to mark his way to the hold with his club or anything else.
10. If a ball be stopp'd by any person, horse or dog, or anything else, the ball so stopp'd must be played where it lyes.
11. If you draw your club in order to strike and proceed so far in the stroke as to be bringing down your club; if then your club shall break in any way, it is to be accounted a stroke.
12. He who whose ball lyes farthest from the hole is obliged to play first.
13. Neither trench, ditch or **** made for the preservation of the links, nor the Scholar's Holes or the soldier's lines shall be accounted a hazard but the ball is to be taken out, teed and play'd with any iron club.
In 1774 players of Leith Links in Scotland requested to form a golf club and proper rules to be written, and "Articles and Laws in Playing Golf - The Rules of The Gentlemen Golfers of Leith" was formed. The rules stated as follows, "
1. You must tee your ball within one club's length of the hole.
2. Your tee must be on the ground.
3. You are not to change the ball which you strike off the tee.
4. You are not to remove stones, bones or any break club for the sake of playing your ball, except on the fair green, and that only within a club's length of your ball.
5. If your ball comes among water, or any watery filth, you are at liberty to take out your ball and bringing it behind the hazard and teeing it, you may play it with any club and allow your adversary a stroke for so getting out your ball.
6. If your balls be found anywhere touching one another you are to lift the first ball till you play the last.
7. At holing you are to play your ball honestly for the hole, and not to play upon your adversary's ball, not lying in your way to the hole.
8. If you should lose your ball, by its being taken up, or any other way, you are to go back to the spot where you struck last and drop another ball and allow your adversary a stroke for the misfortune.
9. No man at holeing his ball is to be allowed to mark his way to the hold with his club or anything else.
10. If a ball be stopp'd by any person, horse or dog, or anything else, the ball so stopp'd must be played where it lyes.
11. If you draw your club in order to strike and proceed so far in the stroke as to be bringing down your club; if then your club shall break in any way, it is to be accounted a stroke.
12. He who whose ball lyes farthest from the hole is obliged to play first.
13. Neither trench, ditch or **** made for the preservation of the links, nor the Scholar's Holes or the soldier's lines shall be accounted a hazard but the ball is to be taken out, teed and play'd with any iron club.
fellow country men got pissed when they could no longer play without the rules and BAM Civil war, woman and children fatherless, villages pilaged, mass carnage.
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