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Taylormade speedblade vs Titleist 714 AP1


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Posted 02 December 2013 - 02:56 AM

Trying to choose between these two irons, Anyone who has hit both and has some feedback would be most helpful.


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Posted 02 December 2013 - 06:28 AM

Hi, I hit both on the range and a launch monitor when looking to purchase a new iron set.
Speedblades had longer distance, but my accuracy wasnt so good with them. I also didnt like the feel of the speedblades that much.
I hit the AP1s a bit shorter (~5yds) but ball dispersion was alot better, I also loved the feel of them.

I can gladly say I now own a set of 714 AP1s and havent looked back, I am 110% happy with them.

Hope this gives you some good feedback, but it all comes down to what you like and I heavily suggest hitting them both side by side.
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Posted 02 December 2013 - 08:19 AM

I have the SpeedBlades and really like them.

However, you really have to hit them both and judge for yourself. Some folks may love the SB's, and some may love the AP1's. That doesn't mean one is better than the other, it's simply a matter of results and personal preference.

So, please go out and test drive them both and see what you and your fitter come up with. :-)
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Posted 02 December 2013 - 03:27 PM

View PostSean2, on 02 December 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

I have the SpeedBlades and really like them.

However, you really have to hit them both and judge for yourself. Some folks may love the SB's, and some may love the AP1's. That doesn't mean one is better than the other, it's simply a matter of results and personal preference.

So, please go out and test drive them both and see what you and your fitter come up with. :-)


I agree I just purchased the speedblades and love them I actually like the feel of the speedblades and my ball dispersion was better with the speedblades vs. AP1's.  I can't wait till next year since it's winter here and only played a couple of rounds here.  Tomorrow suppose to get to 50 hopefully work won't get in the way to play.
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Posted 02 December 2013 - 06:01 PM

I have the speedblades, I think they setup alot nicer than the ap1.


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 09:38 PM

I hit them both in a simulator today. They both had stock-stiff shafts and the Speedblades actually felt better to me. I actually like the Speedblades more. I honestly went in with my heart set on the 714-AP1's, and now I'm not too sure....

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 01:26 PM

Two very different iron sets. Speedblades will help reduce spin for those like myself that are high spin players, while AP1 will increase spin similar to a G25.

Forget lofts and distance, and decide what you need in spin. If you are low spin (7 iron 5000rpm, go with AP1, if you are high spin, 7i 8000rpm, go with Speedblades.
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Posted 06 March 2014 - 02:43 PM

I've hit both and found I liked the Ap1 714s more. Better feel and dispersion for me. You'd have to
hit both to see which one fits your swing better. Both good clubs.

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 09:59 AM

I've hit both and actually prefer the 712 AP1 over either of the newer models.

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 10:33 AM

Your best bet is to just go hit them both yourself and see which set works for you. I've hit both and really liked both. The Speedblades, as is always the case with TaylorMade, are geared towards distance. If you really want to compare distances of the two clubs, hit the 6i of the AP1s and the 7i of the Speedblades. In the long irons the AP1s run 2.5-3* weaker than the Blades, and the scoring irons run 0.5-1.5* weaker.

Also, for me personally the XP95 (stock in the AP1) is a better performing shaft than the stock Speeblade shaft. That may be different for your swing though.

Lastly, from my experience with TaylorMade equipment...they don't have very good standards coming out of the factory. I work in a pro shop and have a lot of clubs come through that need work. TaylorMade sets come through all the time that need regripping because of the poor job that was done at the factory. Typically, the ends of the grips begin to rip because they don't use grip tape and the film that is under the grips doesn't touch the last 2-3 inches of the grips. Other then that TM clubs seem to be fine. In all honesty if you go with the Speedblades I would order them with loose grips so you can do them yourself.

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 11:08 AM

To me and my buying of clubs. If I was looking to buy some speedblades, I would look into buying last years rocketbladez at 1/2 the price and no real difference in performance or looks from address position. But that is me, I buy last years stuff at discount 90% of the time.
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Posted 08 March 2014 - 11:11 AM

View Postfreeze1617, on 08 March 2014 - 11:08 AM, said:

To me and my buying of clubs. If I was looking to buy some speedblades, I would look into buying last years rocketbladez at 1/2 the price and no real difference in performance or looks from address position. But that is me, I buy last years stuff at discount 90% of the time.

This is a great point. There isn't too much of a difference between the Speedblades and the RBladez. They feel very, very similar. It's almost as if they look the RBladez and changed the color and name badge. I do believe the speedpocket has a slightly different shape as well, but I don't know how much it alters the performance of the club.
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Posted 08 March 2014 - 03:44 PM

Has anyone thought of re-shafting the Speedblades with Nippon 950 GH?

I re-shafted a set of Adams clubs with those 85g shafts, and the 950s were a huge improvement, especially in dispersion.

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 03:55 PM

View Postigolfat8, on 08 March 2014 - 09:59 AM, said:

I've hit both and actually prefer the 712 AP1 over either of the newer models.

To be honest, I agree. Although I like the weight of the XP95 over the weight of the Dynalite XP. If I could, I
would order some 712 AP1s with the XP95 shafts.

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 04:11 PM

If you're worried that the speedblade stock shafts aren't your cup of tea, I haven't found a better price on them with upgraded shafts than I did here (http://www.ebay.com/...=item338af5d800).  He's also got options with KBS, Nippon, and other DG shafts (XP, SL, regular DG) if you look at his other options.  Might be worth a look.  I'm this close to biting myself, because the only thing I didn't love about the speedblades was the stock shaft.

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 04:43 PM

View Postfreeze1617, on 08 March 2014 - 11:08 AM, said:

To me and my buying of clubs. If I was looking to buy some speedblades, I would look into buying last years rocketbladez at 1/2 the price and no real difference in performance or looks from address position. But that is me, I buy last years stuff at discount 90% of the time.

I'm not a club hoe by any stretch of the imagination. I just bought the first set of irons I have ever bought myself when I bought my fg tour v2s. Before that I had been playing a hand me down set of Eye 2+ for years.

It took me about 8 months to pick the Wilson Staff's. During those 8 months it hit tons of clubs and spent a lot of time at Dicks and that's where I first started looking into Taylormade irons and noticing the wide variety.

Are sets like the Burner 2.0 just older top of the line sets that have been marked down as a result of the new introduction of irons?

Will the rocketballz eventually be the $299 price point as new clubs come out. Or are the burner 2.0 $299 price points just a different tier of product which is why they are cheaper?

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:56 AM

A lot of Taylormade irons have the same 85g shaft under different names. It was in my Adams Redline irons as well - same shaft. It's also the shaft in the Burner 2.0s, and probably the Speedblades. It's widely used. I find it plays rather light - not a very solid feel. Putting Nippon 950GHs in my Redlines turned them into a wholly better set of clubs, and I would think that would be the same with Burner 2.0s, Speedblades and all the other irons with that 85g shaft. I think they're all .370, since the 85g shaft is. Maybe other substitutes are the XP95, GS95, Tour 90, that kind of thing. I don't know about others but I'm finding 95g about the optimum in a shaft. Don't want to go below that and no real need to go up in weight.

With a 95g shaft, it's a question of finding the best head. These days it's nice to have a "hot" face and dampening in the cavity for a good feel and a bit more distance. I think quite a few head designs are going this way. I play Cobra S9s and they were doing all that a few years ago. The AP1s had dampening in the cavity and tungsten soles right from the original AP1. Shaft was around 105g in that case, so the shaft weight is coming down to 95g there as well. Good recipe for a nice set of GI irons.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 01:05 PM

Were these the Nippon 850 shafts you had in your TM irons?
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Posted 09 March 2014 - 02:08 PM

View Postputtitin, on 09 March 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

Were these the Nippon 850 shafts you had in your TM irons?

I don't have TM irons - I have Redline irons which had the 85g shaft. It's used a lot by TM. e.g Burner 2.0, RBZ, Speedbladez, Rocketblades. Also Adams A4 OS, A12 OS, Redline. It has five 3/4" steps, then 2 inch steps for the remainder of the shaft towards the butt. The Cobra Amp Cell with a TT Dynalite 90 is also the same shaft. Maybe the Cleveland Traction 85 as well, don't know for sure. I don't know if it's True Temper - if so it's an unlisted product. What I do know is that it's made in China because it says so on the shaft. It's probably made in huge quantities and very cheap.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 02:12 PM

I tried both and had exactly the same experience as ausgolfer90. The Speedblades were a little longer, but the Titlest dispersion/accuracy was much better. I bought the AP1s and have been very happy with them. Good luck!


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Posted 14 March 2014 - 06:19 PM

Thinking of ordering either a 3 iron speedblade (17 degree) or an 714 AP1 3 iron bent 2 degrees strong (18 degree) strictly for use off the tee. Any recommendations. Currently am playing 714 AP2s and love them. This is just as an experiment. I like hitting long irons off the tee in the summer in Houston, the ball roles for miles.  I already have a 712U 2, just want to try something different. Thoughts?

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 06:33 PM

I picked up a speedblade 6i with a 75g velox stiff graphite shaft, anyone tried this combination?

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 07:03 PM

View Postpmcuk, on 09 March 2014 - 02:08 PM, said:

View Postputtitin, on 09 March 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

Were these the Nippon 850 shafts you had in your TM irons?

I don't have TM irons - I have Redline irons which had the 85g shaft. It's used a lot by TM. e.g Burner 2.0, RBZ, Speedbladez, Rocketblades. Also Adams A4 OS, A12 OS, Redline. It has five 3/4" steps, then 2 inch steps for the remainder of the shaft towards the butt. The Cobra Amp Cell with a TT Dynalite 90 is also the same shaft. Maybe the Cleveland Traction 85 as well, don't know for sure. I don't know if it's True Temper - if so it's an unlisted product. What I do know is that it's made in China because it says so on the shaft. It's probably made in huge quantities and very cheap.

I believe the 85 gram shaft in the irons listed above is the TT GS85.  It has the same qualities as the GS95 except lighter.  I played the GS95s in my AP1s for a while and really liked them.  They do tend to launch very high with alot of spin.

As far as the AP1 vs Speedbladez debate.  I preferred the AP1s.  Obviously you will want to test them both out and find out which one suits you the best.
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Posted 15 March 2014 - 01:09 AM

you have to try it yourself..but I picked speedblade.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 05:28 AM

View Postblink3665, on 14 March 2014 - 07:03 PM, said:

View Postpmcuk, on 09 March 2014 - 02:08 PM, said:

View Postputtitin, on 09 March 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

Were these the Nippon 850 shafts you had in your TM irons?

I don't have TM irons - I have Redline irons which had the 85g shaft. It's used a lot by TM. e.g Burner 2.0, RBZ, Speedbladez, Rocketblades. Also Adams A4 OS, A12 OS, Redline. It has five 3/4" steps, then 2 inch steps for the remainder of the shaft towards the butt. The Cobra Amp Cell with a TT Dynalite 90 is also the same shaft. Maybe the Cleveland Traction 85 as well, don't know for sure. I don't know if it's True Temper - if so it's an unlisted product. What I do know is that it's made in China because it says so on the shaft. It's probably made in huge quantities and very cheap.

I believe the 85 gram shaft in the irons listed above is the TT GS85.  It has the same qualities as the GS95 except lighter.  

The speed steps are quite different in the GS95. If the GS85 has the same stepping as the GS95 it's not that.

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