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#61 TM_HOYER

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 11:00 AM

View PostArgonne69, on 13 March 2014 - 10:21 AM, said:

View PostTM_HOYER, on 13 March 2014 - 10:16 AM, said:

View Postdearth12, on 12 March 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

Well like many of you have mentioned the setbacks are already starting for this unit. When I pre-ordered I was told it would ship on 3/21. Since we are getting close to that date I decided to "live chat" with a representative today to confirm the ship date and sure enough it's already been pushed back to an "estimated" 4/15 ship date!!!! Since I live in Ohio I went ahead and sold my old skycaddie believing that a unit coming in late March wouldn't cost me many (or any) rounds without a GPS. Now that it's pushed back I'm without a unit. I know it's only 3 and 1/2 weeks later, but that is just an "estimate" could be longer. Needless to say I'm not happy. I'm not sure I would have preordered knowing this and I'm sure I wouldn't have sold my other gps device.

I believe Skycaddies are the best GPS you can buy but I have learned over the years that when it comes to ship dates from them, don't believe any date until they say they are shipping. Their marketing history is to be too optimistic saying when a product will be available for purchase.

However, consider it a blessing in disguise. Hopefully they're working out a few of the kinks, and it'll be 100% bug free when it arrives! ;-) SkyGolf is notorious for shipping buggy devices. I don't expect this one to be any better, but a delay should mean a slightly less buggy experience. I hope.

Based on their forum postings, I would agree with what you said about getting the units when they first come out. I bought a SGX when it first came out and never had an issue. The same goes for the SGXw I currently own. I don't know if that means I should hold off getting the Touch because my luck is going to have to run out at some point.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 04:31 PM

When I ordered, the April 15 date was already in effect.  I have a buyer for my SGX, but told them, not available till I receive my new Touch Skycaddie.  Had previous experience with their delays.  At one time they were supposed to have the ability to recognize  each club, and track it. That went out the window. Never heard another word about it.  Now Game Golf has a system available for this, but it is not a GPS. Only tracks your distances for each club, doesn't give distances on the course.  Don't understand why Skygolf never perfected this unto the skycaddie units like they were supposed to.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 05:47 PM

View PostBCham454, on 13 March 2014 - 04:31 PM, said:

When I ordered, the April 15 date was already in effect.  I have a buyer for my SGX, but told them, not available till I receive my new Touch Skycaddie.  Had previous experience with their delays.  At one time they were supposed to have the ability to recognize  each club, and track it. That went out the window. Never heard another word about it.  Now Game Golf has a system available for this, but it is not a GPS. Only tracks your distances for each club, doesn't give distances on the course.  Don't understand why Skygolf never perfected this unto the skycaddie units like they were supposed to.

They would have lost their USGA and R&A  "approved for use" status if the device helped with club selection... That is why they dropped club tracking tags... At least that was my understanding

Edited by jnradioactive, 14 March 2014 - 08:56 AM.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 05:58 PM

Bad News, just received this e-mail

Thank you for your recent pre-order of a SkyCaddie Touch. Due to unforeseen delays with one of our suppliers, we wanted to inform you that your pre-order will take a little longer to fulfill and deliver. At this time we do not have a firm date of delivery we can provide you, but we will update you on the status of the product in 2 weeks, unless we are able to fulfill your order earlier. When we ship your order, you will receive a confirmation email with tracking information.

Please accept our apologies for this delay.  It will definitely be worth the wait!

Regards,

SkyGolf Customer Support


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 06:10 PM

View PostBCham454, on 27 March 2014 - 05:58 PM, said:

Bad News, just received this e-mail

Thank you for your recent pre-order of a SkyCaddie Touch. Due to unforeseen delays with one of our suppliers, we wanted to inform you that your pre-order will take a little longer to fulfill and deliver. At this time we do not have a firm date of delivery we can provide you, but we will update you on the status of the product in 2 weeks, unless we are able to fulfill your order earlier. When we ship your order, you will receive a confirmation email with tracking information.

Please accept our apologies for this delay.  It will definitely be worth the wait!

Regards,

SkyGolf Customer Support

They billed you in full already right?


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 06:11 PM

Glad I still have my SGX.  I am selling it, but not until I receive my new touch. For people who don't want to pay for a membership, I am selling mine and loading 50 advanced courses of their choice. ( it's in perfect condition, with the range ring updates )That way for the casual player they will have all the courses they need, with no need to pay for the membership if they don't want too. So for $125 they get a good deal. Plus I paid $250 for the touch, so I am really getting it for $125. Figure it's a win win for both parties. I don't mind the membership fee. I play over 100 times a year, and love all the stats I can keep, to evaluate my performance.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 06:12 PM

Yes already paid in full, but still have my SGX. It's for sale

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 10:27 PM

View PostBCham454, on 27 March 2014 - 06:12 PM, said:

Yes already paid in full, but still have my SGX. It's for sale

Yeah I have a SGX too, most companies when they do preorders don't actually bill your CC until the item ships. I saw this coming they did it with the SGX too. I think they literally fund the initial manufacturering costs with people's preorder money...

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 10:32 PM

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Glad I still have my SGX.  I am selling it, but not until I receive my new touch. For people who don't want to pay for a membership, I am selling mine and loading 50 advanced courses of their choice. ( it's in perfect condition, with the range ring updates )That way for the casual player they will have all the courses they need, with no need to pay for the membership if they don't want too. So for $125 they get a good deal. Plus I paid $250 for the touch, so I am really getting it for $125. Figure it's a win win for both parties. I don't mind the membership fee. I play over 100 times a year, and love all the stats I can keep, to evaluate my performance.

Btw I don't think your idea will work, I tried this when I sold my SG5, when I moved my membership to the SGX the the guy who I sold the  SG5 to told me they basically wiped it and it just had the basic courses and constant reminders to sign up for a membership...

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 10:52 PM

Anyone want to start guessing when people that preordered the Touch actually get the thing?


I'll start.....

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 10:01 AM

View Postdearth12, on 27 March 2014 - 10:52 PM, said:

Anyone want to start guessing when people that preordered the Touch actually get the thing?


I'll start.....

My prediction- Mid June

Lol. Do you mean get a Touch, or get one that works? :-) I've had so many bad experiences with new models that I'm finsally going to sit this one out for a year. If I purchase one next Spring, I assume there will still be plenty of bugs, but the real showstoppers will have been cured. Hopefully.

That said, mid-June is a good guess.

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 11:48 AM

View Postjnradioactive, on 27 March 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

View PostBCham454, on 27 March 2014 - 06:11 PM, said:

Glad I still have my SGX.  I am selling it, but not until I receive my new touch. For people who don't want to pay for a membership, I am selling mine and loading 50 advanced courses of their choice. ( it's in perfect condition, with the range ring updates )That way for the casual player they will have all the courses they need, with no need to pay for the membership if they don't want too. So for $125 they get a good deal. Plus I paid $250 for the touch, so I am really getting it for $125. Figure it's a win win for both parties. I don't mind the membership fee. I play over 100 times a year, and love all the stats I can keep, to evaluate my performance.

Btw I don't think your idea will work, I tried this when I sold my SG5, when I moved my membership to the SGX the the guy who I sold the  SG5 to told me they basically wiped it and it just had the basic courses and constant reminders to sign up for a membership...


How did they erase the courses?  If you don't plug it into a computer and into Skycaddie sight, i can't imagine how they could erase anything on your unit.

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 01:41 PM

View PostBCham454, on 28 March 2014 - 11:48 AM, said:

How did they erase the courses?  If you don't plug it into a computer and into Skycaddie sight, i can't imagine how they could erase anything on your unit.

There is an expiration timestamp within the data files on the caddie which is updated with each download. When you boot up your caddie it checks this and if it is expired it will not load the coarses for play until you renew and download a new renewal timestamp. I don't think they actually wipe the unit, but the software could be programmed for that.

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 01:45 PM

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View PostBCham454, on 28 March 2014 - 11:48 AM, said:

How did they erase the courses?  If you don't plug it into a computer and into Skycaddie sight, i can't imagine how they could erase anything on your unit.

There is an expiration timestamp within the data files of the caddie which is updated with each download. When that hits, the coarses aren't actually gone off the caddie, but it will not load them for play until you renew and download a new renewal timestamp.

Yup. If you check the settings, the device knows when your membership expires. At that point, the nags begin, and the advanced features are disabled.

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 02:03 PM

View PostArgonne69, on 28 March 2014 - 01:45 PM, said:

View PostMSchad, on 28 March 2014 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostBCham454, on 28 March 2014 - 11:48 AM, said:

How did they erase the courses?  If you don't plug it into a computer and into Skycaddie sight, i can't imagine how they could erase anything on your unit.

There is an expiration timestamp within the data files of the caddie which is updated with each download. When that hits, the coarses aren't actually gone off the caddie, but it will not load them for play until you renew and download a new renewal timestamp.

Yup. If you check the settings, the device knows when your membership expires. At that point, the nags begin, and the advanced features are disabled.

With the time bomb software, the cost of membership, The pay up front and get the delays and hiccups in production, I am surprised Skycaddie has the market share it does.


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 02:23 PM

View PostHateto3Putt, on 28 March 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

View PostArgonne69, on 28 March 2014 - 01:45 PM, said:

View PostMSchad, on 28 March 2014 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostBCham454, on 28 March 2014 - 11:48 AM, said:

How did they erase the courses?  If you don't plug it into a computer and into Skycaddie sight, i can't imagine how they could erase anything on your unit.

There is an expiration timestamp within the data files of the caddie which is updated with each download. When that hits, the coarses aren't actually gone off the caddie, but it will not load them for play until you renew and download a new renewal timestamp.

Yup. If you check the settings, the device knows when your membership expires. At that point, the nags begin, and the advanced features are disabled.

With the time bomb software, the cost of membership, The pay up front and get the delays and hiccups in production, I am surprised Skycaddie has the market share it does.

Well, the time bomb goes hand in hand with the membership. No membership, no advanced features.

That said, it says a lot about the functionality and quality of the data. People are willing to live with the hiccups to get the features.

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 03:44 PM

View PostBCham454, on 28 March 2014 - 11:48 AM, said:

View Postjnradioactive, on 27 March 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

View PostBCham454, on 27 March 2014 - 06:11 PM, said:

Glad I still have my SGX.  I am selling it, but not until I receive my new touch. For people who don't want to pay for a membership, I am selling mine and loading 50 advanced courses of their choice. ( it's in perfect condition, with the range ring updates )That way for the casual player they will have all the courses they need, with no need to pay for the membership if they don't want too. So for $125 they get a good deal. Plus I paid $250 for the touch, so I am really getting it for $125. Figure it's a win win for both parties. I don't mind the membership fee. I play over 100 times a year, and love all the stats I can keep, to evaluate my performance.

Btw I don't think your idea will work, I tried this when I sold my SG5, when I moved my membership to the SGX the the guy who I sold the  SG5 to told me they basically wiped it and it just had the basic courses and constant reminders to sign up for a membership...


How did they erase the courses?  If you don't plug it into a computer and into Skycaddie sight, i can't imagine how they could erase anything on your unit.

To transfer your membership to your new unit, you have deactivate you old unit which requires it to be connected. It will wipe your old unit clean when it is deactivated.

Edited by TM_HOYER, 28 March 2014 - 05:59 PM.

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 03:46 PM

View PostMSchad, on 28 March 2014 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostBCham454, on 28 March 2014 - 11:48 AM, said:

How did they erase the courses?  If you don't plug it into a computer and into Skycaddie sight, i can't imagine how they could erase anything on your unit.

There is an expiration timestamp within the data files on the caddie which is updated with each download. When you boot up your caddie it checks this and if it is expired it will not load the coarses for play until you renew and download a new renewal timestamp. I don't think they actually wipe the unit, but the software could be programmed for that.

^^^Correct^^^ Thanks for the clarification.

I guess "wiping" was the wrong term on my part. But the advanced courses that are downloaded are tied to the membership expiration date (which the device knows from when the membership/device was enabled), membership expires and the advanced courses don't work... There is no free lunch... otherwise people who don't need more than x amount of courses would load them up with ~50 courses and come next year tell SC to pound sand... actually smart on their behalf... membership that have down pat the rest of the software not so much

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 10:01 PM

Damn ! So when I activate the new touch, my SGX is wiped clean, huh. I'll probably transfer, then have the Touch give me problems. Guess I'll hold on to my SGX till I'm sure everything works good on the Touch, then sell it.  Thanks for all the input.

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 04:54 AM

If the Touch is getting delayed, does that mean that we can expect the Linx to be delayed too?
I have the impression it is not even possible to pre-order this one...

And I was hoping to buy my first golf watch by Mid-April :mellow:


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Posted 31 March 2014 - 12:03 PM

You can get a addtional device on your membership, i have mine setup that way so i can put up to 2 or 3 devices on my membership. This will allow me to test the Touch until i am sure that it works fine.
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Posted 01 April 2014 - 12:18 PM

First round of the year and my SGX will not find satellites.  I really can not complain since I got the SGX when it was first released (I think in 2010).  I just ordered my TOUCH to replace my SGX.
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Posted 01 April 2014 - 01:38 PM

View PostJames B, on 01 April 2014 - 12:18 PM, said:

First round of the year and my SGX will not find satellites.  I really can not complain since I got the SGX when it was first released (I think in 2010).  I just ordered my TOUCH to replace my SGX.

The Air Force Space Command is playing an April Fool's Day joke on everyone. They turned off the satellites. :-)

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:35 AM

that is not a funny joke to us golfers LOL
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:43 PM

I guess they started the April's fool on Sunday.  It did cross mind on the course that it was a system problem.  I even tried seeing if a update was necessary but that did not work.

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Posted 09 April 2014 - 04:51 PM

New update.  Just received this from SkyGolf.

Hello,
Recently we emailed to advise that your Pre-order of the SkyCaddie Touch was delayed due to unforeseen delays with one of our suppliers.  We wanted to inform you that your pre-order will take a little longer to fulfill and deliver. At this time we do not have a firm date of delivery we can provide you, but we will update you on the status of the product on May 5th, unless we are able to fulfill your order earlier.  
We appreciate your continued patience and would like to send you a Dozen Bridgestone B330 –RX valued at $45, along with your order when it ships.   When we ship your order, you will receive a confirmation email with tracking information.
Please accept our apologies for this delay.  It will definitely be worth the wait!
Regards,
SkyGolf Customer Support

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Posted 09 April 2014 - 04:54 PM

I'm starting to get really pissed off.  They had NO problem taking my money, back in February . Now, their pushing this back till May !!!

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Posted 09 April 2014 - 05:11 PM

This was my reply to SkyGolf.

This is ridiculous !  You had NO problem taking my money, back in February. Now I have to wait till May,  maybe!!!   Instead of golf balls, take the $45 off the price, I have already paid. Or better yet, pay my membership when it's up in November !!  I don't need stinking golf balls !!!  You had no right to hit my credit card, until you had a product to forward.  I've NEVER had anyone do that to me before. I buy a lot of things online, and NO ONE charges your credit card until they have an item to ship !!  Can you say FRAUD !!!!!
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Posted 09 April 2014 - 05:13 PM

View PostBCham454, on 09 April 2014 - 04:54 PM, said:

I'm starting to get really pissed off.  They had NO problem taking my money, back in February . Now, their pushing this back till May !!!

It's Déjà vu all over again, this is what they did with the SGX

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Posted 09 April 2014 - 08:26 PM

View PostBCham454, on 09 April 2014 - 05:11 PM, said:

This was my reply to SkyGolf.

This is ridiculous !  You had NO problem taking my money, back in February. Now I have to wait till May,  maybe!!!   Instead of golf balls, take the $45 off the price, I have already paid. Or better yet, pay my membership when it's up in November !!  I don't need stinking golf balls !!!  You had no right to hit my credit card, until you had a product to forward.  I've NEVER had anyone do that to me before. I buy a lot of things online, and NO ONE charges your credit card until they have an item to ship !!  Can you say FRAUD !!!!!
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Sorry but no sympathy from me. Their history gave a 99.9% chance there would be a delay. Plus before you ordered they said they would charge your credit card. There is no fraud. It is just you being pi**ed because you are not getting it when you want it. Am I going to buy a Touch? YES! But I will wait until they ship and buy it from my local retailer. My world is not going to fall apart because it will be May or June before it buy it.

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