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Callaway 2014 Apex Pro Irons: In-hand photos

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#31 Marks23

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:46 AM

Is the face hotter on the Apex (given the face material) than the Apex Pro (thinned out face but no insert)?  I know the lofts are stronger in the Apex model so I can't just ask which 6 iron is longer.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:49 AM

I'm glad the lofts on the Pros are a bit better than I was expecting. I heard they were going to be the same as the XHP irons of now, having a 45* PW and a 21* 4 iron. That's a low 4 iron!!!

These seem to be more inline with what a Player's iron should be.
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:52 AM

They are solid irons, I hit them a few weeks ago. I wouldn't think twice about gaming a set.
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:54 AM

 Scott@84, on 05 November 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

They are solid irons, I hit them a few weeks ago. I wouldn't think twice about gaming a set.
Agreed. I love the 2013 x forged, but I thought these were even better, plus a gap wedge! Also, I know some are getting jiggy about the weight of the KBS V Tour. Although lighter, I really didn't feel a huge difference from the standard KBS Tour 120. They will be in my bag when the snow goes away.....

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:04 PM

Should anyone want to see a comparison of the lofts for the two sets of irons, I posted them here:

http://www.golfwrx.c...80#entry8105042

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:17 PM

Can anyone compare these to 2013 X-Forged, 714 AP2, or Mizuno MP-54- as far as forgiveness, feel, workability, ball flight, etc.? These seem to all be competitive offerings, all of which I am extremely interested in for the upcoming season.
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:22 PM

 hayzooos, on 05 November 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

Should anyone want to see a comparison of the lofts for the two sets of irons, I posted them here:

http://www.golfwrx.c...80#entry8105042

So, according to your table, the Apex 3 iron is closer to the Apex Pro 2 iron than 3 iron? I could definitely be interested in a combo set, will they be offered as such from Callaway? Looks like 3-5 Apex, 6-pw Apex pro would flow well with the loft progression.
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:43 PM

I can't decide if a mixed set of Apex/Apex pro's or the Nike VR Forged Pro Combos would be better.  Either way, I hope I get one hell of a holiday bonus to make one of those happen!

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:26 PM

 GoIrish17, on 05 November 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

 hayzooos, on 05 November 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

Should anyone want to see a comparison of the lofts for the two sets of irons, I posted them here:

http://www.golfwrx.c...80#entry8105042

So, according to your table, the Apex 3 iron is closer to the Apex Pro 2 iron than 3 iron? I could definitely be interested in a combo set, will they be offered as such from Callaway? Looks like 3-5 Apex, 6-pw Apex pro would flow well with the loft progression.

I think starting at the 6 would be good, but you'd go from a 24* 5 iron to a 29* 6 iron. I don't know if that's a typical split in that area or not. If you split at the 7 (which is what I would more than likely do) you'd go from a 27* 6 iron to a 33* 7 iron which is 6* difference instead.

One thing I'll do for sure is order an Apex 3 iron and bend it a degree strong to replace the DHy I have now. Considering I won't have to pay any upcharge to get my C-Taper S+ in there, I'm hoping it'll slide right in with the rest of my XHP I have now.

EDIT: To your question if they'll be offered that way from Callaway, I have a 99% certain response of 'no'. But that doesn't mean you can't custom order them that way. Considering they're not doing any upcharges on shafts they stock, I have a feeling the GREAT majority of people here will be doing a custom order job (as if they wouldn't already) so it wouldn't be much different. You'll just have to be a bit more explicit.

Edited by hayzooos, 05 November 2013 - 01:28 PM.

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Callaway XHP 15* Fuji Speeder VC 8.1
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:47 PM

The swingweight specs look to be higher in the Apex Pros with the recoil shafts than the same shafts in the Apex (D0 swingweight).  Some may want the higher swingweight but in the Apex head.  Will Callaway be able to get the swingweight up to d2/3 with recoils?


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 02:12 PM

Has there been a release date for the apex pro yet?
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 02:29 PM

 hayzooos, on 05 November 2013 - 01:26 PM, said:

 GoIrish17, on 05 November 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

 hayzooos, on 05 November 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

Should anyone want to see a comparison of the lofts for the two sets of irons, I posted them here:

http://www.golfwrx.c...80#entry8105042

So, according to your table, the Apex 3 iron is closer to the Apex Pro 2 iron than 3 iron? I could definitely be interested in a combo set, will they be offered as such from Callaway? Looks like 3-5 Apex, 6-pw Apex pro would flow well with the loft progression.

I think starting at the 6 would be good, but you'd go from a 24* 5 iron to a 29* 6 iron. I don't know if that's a typical split in that area or not. If you split at the 7 (which is what I would more than likely do) you'd go from a 27* 6 iron to a 33* 7 iron which is 6* difference instead.

One thing I'll do for sure is order an Apex 3 iron and bend it a degree strong to replace the DHy I have now. Considering I won't have to pay any upcharge to get my C-Taper S+ in there, I'm hoping it'll slide right in with the rest of my XHP I have now.

EDIT: To your question if they'll be offered that way from Callaway, I have a 99% certain response of 'no'. But that doesn't mean you can't custom order them that way. Considering they're not doing any upcharges on shafts they stock, I have a feeling the GREAT majority of people here will be doing a custom order job (as if they wouldn't already) so it wouldn't be much different. You'll just have to be a bit more explicit.

Yeah, the loft gapping was somewhat of a concern to me, as well as difference in feel between the irons with tungsten inserts and non. I personally would prefer just the 3 & 4 in the Apex, but I'll have to wait and see.  I'm sure there would have to be some slight loft tweeking, but a 5* gap seemed more reasonable than a 6* difference at that spot in the bag. The nice thing is they are forged, so custom bending should be no problemo!

As to my first post- does anyone have any experience with these (or opinions) vs. 2013 X-Forged, 714 AP2, and MP-54?
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 03:04 PM

well done Callaway, very classy looking iron
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 03:25 PM

I like the look more than the X forged and the groove tech is very interesting.  I see these going against the S55.  Should make a deadly combo with the regular Apex.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 07:15 PM

I really need to hit these boys for a few days so I can see what irons are going in my bag for 2014???? Or will I keep the Cobra Pro mb's that I've been playing for the last 3-4 seasons. too many decisions for 2014 with Nike, Callaway and then the possibly of forged TM TP's..... decisions decisions.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 07:22 PM

Cant wait to try them, those look amazing!
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 07:46 PM

Beautiful clubs. I just watched the video with Harry interviewing Alan Hocknell about these irons. I must say I think Harry has become my new favorite person in golf. You can tell he loves his job.
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:26 PM

Harry is a funny dude. The entire Callaway crew are world class. I've been saying to myself ever since i saw the Apex that i was going to go to them instead of the Pro this time, since I could use a little forgiveness. Now, after watching the Callaway Talks, I am torn! The way they talked about these really piqued my interest. But at the same time, the amount of good things Dscvrr says about the standard Apex (and i know he has a good eye for equipment), are prompting me to think i will go with them. Also helps that they come out first! Maybe both!? You'll probably see me on a street corner in Florida, carrying my golf bag and a sign that says "Will work for Greens Fees". 110% Callaway... very impressive!
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:27 PM

These irons look great!  I cannot wait to give them a go!!!

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:46 PM

so are these more forgiving than x forged? they look the same size?  Any specs?


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:27 PM

 Whammy, on 05 November 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

Harry is a funny dude. The entire Callaway crew are world class. I've been saying to myself ever since i saw the Apex that i was going to go to them instead of the Pro this time, since I could use a little forgiveness. Now, after watching the Callaway Talks, I am torn! The way they talked about these really piqued my interest. But at the same time, the amount of good things Dscvrr says about the standard Apex (and i know he has a good eye for equipment), are prompting me to think i will go with them. Also helps that they come out first! Maybe both!? You'll probably see me on a street corner in Florida, carrying my golf bag and a sign that says "Will work for Greens Fees". 110% Callaway... very impressive!

Figure I go with Apex 4-GW Ctaper X SS 1x and go from there.  If the intrigue bug bites me, I will order the Apex Pro in 8-PW!!
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:40 PM

Im thinking 4-PW but not sure what shaft yet. I am crossing my fingers that Callaway will be at a demo day that I am going to on Friday, the flyer says they aren't but when I worked for them we always did this demo day so I am remaining hopeful. Right now I am playing KBS Tour X's and I really like the feel/flight, so i may try the Tour V and C-Taper. I have the C-Taper X in a couple of wedges i bought last year but man... they are rugged. I bought two wedges and ended up hitting about 20 balls each with them before taking them out and putting my X Forged wedges back in the bag. I am just excited as all can be to hit the Apex. Now if this week would just fly by....
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:58 PM

Those are great looking irons.  I'm gonna see if the regular version can beat out the CB2's I currently play .  I think it's a good thing to bring back the Apex name.  Cally bought Hogan  and it is a tribute to a great line of clubs to put the Apex name back on the market.
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:39 PM

 Jrolsen0425, on 05 November 2013 - 02:12 PM, said:

Has there been a release date for the apex pro yet?

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:10 PM

 Whammy, on 05 November 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

Im thinking 4-PW but not sure what shaft yet. I am crossing my fingers that Callaway will be at a demo day that I am going to on Friday, the flyer says they aren't but when I worked for them we always did this demo day so I am remaining hopeful. Right now I am playing KBS Tour X's and I really like the feel/flight, so i may try the Tour V and C-Taper. I have the C-Taper X in a couple of wedges i bought last year but man... they are rugged. I bought two wedges and ended up hitting about 20 balls each with them before taking them out and putting my X Forged wedges back in the bag. I am just excited as all can be to hit the Apex. Now if this week would just fly by....

For wedges I like the Ctaper S+...great feel and control on partial shots.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:22 PM

 Dscvrr St Louis, on 05 November 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

 Whammy, on 05 November 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

Im thinking 4-PW but not sure what shaft yet. I am crossing my fingers that Callaway will be at a demo day that I am going to on Friday, the flyer says they aren't but when I worked for them we always did this demo day so I am remaining hopeful. Right now I am playing KBS Tour X's and I really like the feel/flight, so i may try the Tour V and C-Taper. I have the C-Taper X in a couple of wedges i bought last year but man... they are rugged. I bought two wedges and ended up hitting about 20 balls each with them before taking them out and putting my X Forged wedges back in the bag. I am just excited as all can be to hit the Apex. Now if this week would just fly by....

For wedges I like the Ctaper S+...great feel and control on partial shots.

That was the exact reason i disliked the X... the feel on partial shots was just not there. I will give the S+ a shot (pun totally intended)
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#57 Dscvrr St Louis

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:26 PM

 Whammy, on 05 November 2013 - 11:22 PM, said:

 Dscvrr St Louis, on 05 November 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

 Whammy, on 05 November 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

Im thinking 4-PW but not sure what shaft yet. I am crossing my fingers that Callaway will be at a demo day that I am going to on Friday, the flyer says they aren't but when I worked for them we always did this demo day so I am remaining hopeful. Right now I am playing KBS Tour X's and I really like the feel/flight, so i may try the Tour V and C-Taper. I have the C-Taper X in a couple of wedges i bought last year but man... they are rugged. I bought two wedges and ended up hitting about 20 balls each with them before taking them out and putting my X Forged wedges back in the bag. I am just excited as all can be to hit the Apex. Now if this week would just fly by....

For wedges I like the Ctaper S+...great feel and control on partial shots.

That was the exact reason i disliked the X... the feel on partial shots was just not there. I will give the S+ a shot (pun totally intended)

I figured as stiff as they are across the board, the slightly lighter would do the trick..and it is REAAALLLLYYY nice!
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#58 Whammy

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 12:02 AM

I live in Florida so wind is almost always an issue... I have wanted to try the C-Tapers, but ever since i tried those wedges, I was thrown off a bit. But i figure if I go to the Apex (assuming a bit higher launch), then i might need to flight it down a bit.
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 12:27 AM

As an XHP 4-PW and XF'13 6-PW owner, these should be right up my centre of the green alley, but I'm pretty meh about them.

I'm sure they'll be fine, just like all the other modern clubs, but I don't think they look that great actually and in non-ho fashion I'm not even that keen on having a hit. Maybe if they were coming out in Jan '15, but after only 1 year of trying out new clubs and paying attention to all the new offerings I think I've reached my personal saturation point.
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 02:42 AM

but how does the Apex Pro compare to the 714 AP2s? I'm sure I'm not alone in having that thought :)

Edited by ButterSwing, 06 November 2013 - 02:43 AM.


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