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#61 chickenpotpie

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 07:19 AM

Ok, so what happens in one or two quarters when this inventory doesn't sell at the price it was booked at?  Don't they take an earnings hit then, as a result of the channel stuff they are presumably trying to pull off in December, which will require yet another channel stuff next quarter to offset that charge?  This kind of thing happens in the electronics industry all the time, and smart investors can see through it.  It's just not sound business practice...at least not a long term one.  Not sure why they would do it in the first place....and if they would, why not do it earlier in the quarter with the release of the SLDR?  Just doesn't make sense to me.

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#62 chickenpotpie

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 07:20 AM

View Postcraniac76, on 30 October 2013 - 04:57 AM, said:


How come no pictures yet in the Tour & Prerelease forum... ?

Interesting that topic got moved to the Equipment forum too.  Surprised we haven't seen pics yet too.
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Posted 30 October 2013 - 07:23 AM

QUICK -> someone go and trademark/copywrite all words with "speed"

My money is that the next-next set of TM clubs will be "LightSpeed"  :D
... followed by "ImOnSpeed" , etc

Edited by ARL67, 30 October 2013 - 07:24 AM.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 07:39 AM

View Postbph7, on 29 October 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

So is this legit?  There doesn't seem to be much confirmation of OP's info in this thread.

Yes, this is 100% happening in December. I just don't have any pics to share. I was hoping someone else did.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 08:42 AM

View Postchickenpotpie, on 30 October 2013 - 07:19 AM, said:

Ok, so what happens in one or two quarters when this inventory doesn't sell at the price it was booked at?  Don't they take an earnings hit then, as a result of the channel stuff they are presumably trying to pull off in December, which will require yet another channel stuff next quarter to offset that charge?  This kind of thing happens in the electronics industry all the time, and smart investors can see through it.  It's just not sound business practice...at least not a long term one.  Not sure why they would do it in the first place....and if they would, why not do it earlier in the quarter with the release of the SLDR?  Just doesn't make sense to me.
I don't know how the hard goods and golf industry works. But in my industry (Engineering Consultants) once we invoice it's considered revenue. Even if we haven't been paid yet.

I suspect it's similar in the golf industry. Once the Invoice or bill of sale is issued that is considered revenue. I could be wrong.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 10:12 AM

View Postshakey, on 29 October 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

Vulcan, like has been said, is the code name.  I wonder if TM could even release product under the name. There was a company named Vulcan Golf around a few years ago.
i did get a box in with the name VULCAN on it for 4-aw ...but speedblades in the box

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 10:17 AM

Jetspeed......yikes.
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Posted 30 October 2013 - 10:25 AM

max COR reached, gotta slow it down... hence rocket -> jet

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 10:25 AM

Can a jet even get off the ground with typical ball speeds? Inquiring mind wants to know...

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 10:30 AM

HL CPTR look at that wood fly

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 10:55 AM

View Postchickenpotpie, on 30 October 2013 - 07:20 AM, said:



Interesting that topic got moved to the Equipment forum too.  Surprised we haven't seen pics yet too.


This just means it is already outdated. Interesting name though
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Posted 30 October 2013 - 11:35 AM

View Postavgjoe, on 30 October 2013 - 10:25 AM, said:

max COR reached, gotta slow it down... hence rocket -> jet

Nice catch. New slogan -11 yards on the TaylorMade staffer hats!

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 11:39 AM

View PostFore(ged), on 30 October 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:


Nice catch. New slogan -11 yards on the TaylorMade staffer hats!

So, +17+10-11=+16.  +16 should be the new slogan!

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 11:42 AM

next up will be the submarine and the b50 bomber

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 11:47 AM

View PostARL67, on 30 October 2013 - 07:23 AM, said:

QUICK -> someone go and trademark/copywrite all words with "speed"

My money is that the next-next set of TM clubs will be "LightSpeed"  :D
... followed by "ImOnSpeed" , etc

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 11:56 AM

Didn't Cobra already have a "speed" line?  Wait... didn't adams already have a "speedline"?  Tmag already owns adams, I guess they will buy Cobra now.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 11:59 AM

View PostSnufles, on 29 October 2013 - 07:05 PM, said:

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It was old when you bought it.

Worse.

It was obsolete when he bought it....
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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:16 PM

Seems they must have deleted my email with the name suggestion of "ThunderBalls". Seriously, who wouldn't want to carry a ThunderBalls driver.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:20 PM

View PostSwingMan, on 30 October 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:



Worse.

It was obsolete when he bought it....

So True...

TMAG's unique Driver head retail releases SINCE February 1:
R1,
RBZ Stage 2,
RBZ Stage 2 Tour,
R1 Black,
R1 V2,
SLDR,
JetSpeed(?)
JetSpeed Tour (?)
SLDR 430 (?)

So, they could release as many as NINE different driver heads in a calendar year.  So, basically, TMAG will release more than double the amount of drivers THIS YEAR that Titleist has released since 2010.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:36 PM

View PostROBOPTI, on 30 October 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:



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great minds think alike... you beat me to it, robo!
personally, i can't wait for the PLAID lineup.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:46 PM

jetspeed-ier

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:49 PM

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:50 PM

Just totally skipping over rocketballziest eh?  Poor move TM
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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:53 PM

View PostRebel420, on 29 October 2013 - 11:05 PM, said:


It does sound like it would fit better as a successor to the Burner series....

Personally, I kind of hope they stick with Vulcan over JetSpeed, but I am a bit biased as my college sports teams were the Vulcans.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:54 PM

View PostRebel420, on 29 October 2013 - 11:05 PM, said:


It does sound like it would fit better as a successor to the Burner series....

Personally, I kind of hope they stick with Vulcan over JetSpeed, but I am a bit biased as my college sports teams were the Vulcans.
Vulcan? With a slogan like "drive long and prosper"


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 01:02 PM

OMG! You guys are killing me here!! I think I just peed a little?!?! :cheesy:  You would think paying big bucks for marketing, that a big company like TM would come up with better names!? Or maybe this is their plan in the first place!?!? Or is it?!? :beruo:
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Posted 30 October 2013 - 01:07 PM

GolfWeek just reports that new TM line to be announced mid-November.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 02:46 PM

Going back to black...

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 02:50 PM

View Postbph7, on 30 October 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:



So True...

TMAG's unique Driver head retail releases SINCE February 1:
R1,
RBZ Stage 2,
RBZ Stage 2 Tour,
R1 Black,
R1 V2,
SLDR,
JetSpeed(?)
JetSpeed Tour (?)
SLDR 430 (?)

So, they could release as many as NINE different driver heads in a calendar year.  So, basically, TMAG will release more than double the amount of drivers THIS YEAR that Titleist has released since 2010.
And Titleist hasn't sold 10%  in those years total than what TMAG has sold this year. The last I checked both of these companies are in business to sell clubs. One of them is number 1 club sales and the other is recognized as being a hero by some (obviously not owners) for not trying to sell clubs and falling behind Callaway, Nike, and Ping in this category. Interesting! The often used business phrase "if you are not growing, then you are getting smaller" applies here. The last I looked none of these golf companies are Charitable organiztions. I fully expect Acushnet to change they was they are doing golf club business or they will have to just settle for it being an accessory to their ball, shoe and glove business. Callaway has already recognized the new model for club business and they have stated so in their release yesterday to shareholders and the Stock Market while reporting their 3Q numbers (up from 3Q in 2012) and their revised year end forecasts.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 02:59 PM

We still don't have validation on this brutal name but..

What I wonder is, how does this go through all the various levels it needs to go through, without somebody taking objection and saying how bad it sounds.  I never understand that when it comes to terrible marketing, whatever the company/product.


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