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RBZ Stage2 ..really that long or hype??


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#1 russian7

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 08:39 AM

I was interested in trying one of these, any recommendations? My buddy was always a ways shorter than me and he got the stage 2 stock stiff shaft and now he's as long and driving past me, I was really surprised to say the least, I was wondering if I could get the same results? Im playing an X HOT PRO now which is dead on in the fairway, but not that long I'd say average for me my SF 2.0 was definitely longer. Any users have reviews or advice on this one?? Thanks.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 09:52 AM

I will say, I have a R11 17* 4 wood.  I get about 220-230 carry, 235-240 overall from it.  I also have a stage 2 16.5* 3HL, that I have turned up to 17*, weighted the head to have same weight as the R11, and play the shaft to same length as the R11.  I get 235-245 carry, and after roll out 250-260.  
In other words, same weight, same loft, same length shaft and better carry.  

I will say though, off the deck, the stage 2 beats anything I have tried.  Now off the tee, I would much rather hit the R11 or an original RBZ
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Posted 05 October 2013 - 10:47 AM

Not hype, they are long and easy to hit off the deck. I replaced my xhot 3 wood with stage 2 3hl 17, carries longer and lands softer.

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 11:16 AM

Stage 2 is a fantastic fairway wood.
Doesn't touch the original RBZ
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Posted 05 October 2013 - 01:16 PM

I bought a Stage 2 Tour Driver yesterday. I tested them all for the past year or so, could never find anything I liked better than my R9 460. Tested a Stage 2 Tour yesterday and bought it. Gave me 12-15 yards with an equivalent dispersion pattern as my R9.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 01:36 PM

Just played my first round with RBZ stage 2 Driver with Oban Devotion.  I had tried to love the SLDR in several permutations including the TP version. In any event the RBZ Stage 2 today was a Monster and every Bitas long as the SLDR in my hands   Am so impressed I am going to try a3 wood

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 07:49 PM

For me, distance-wise, Cobra ACP longest, then X Hot, then Stage 2, then XHP. Of course, the shaft is what matters. All four heads are great. You just need the right shaft for you.

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 11:40 PM

I cannot speak for the driver but I do play the tour hl 3 wood.  I have it turned down to 15* and I surprise myself and playing partners almost every time I hit it.  It is longer by far over any other 3 wood I have played.
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 08:28 AM

I have the tour driver and the 19* hybrid and can honestly say that both are way longer than I have any right to be. I never felt this good with the original RBZ or the R11 but something about the head and shaft combos work amazing well for me. I know taylormade does a lot of marketing but this series is legit.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 11:19 AM

I have hit the same driver all year and have heard so much about the rbz 3 wood I had to purchase one.  Being new to the 3, I hit it a little and knew it was long but didnt know just how long.  So on a par 5 yesterday, I hit my driver (RBZ tour 10.5) and 3 wood (RBZ stage 2 Tour tuned to 16 degrees) the other day just to see the difference.  I thought they were close but I didn't know how close they were to each other.  I got about 20 yds difference between the two of them.  The 3 wood is extremely long.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 11:23 AM

I know the stage 2 FW and hybrids I've hit have been longer than the competition. I think the faces are really hot, but also, the shafts are on average 1/2 inch longer. At least vs the Ping Anser/G25 anyways.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 12:47 PM

View Postjtoddaz, on 06 October 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

I know the stage 2 FW and hybrids I've hit have been longer than the competition. I think the faces are really hot, but also, the shafts are on average 1/2 inch longer. At least vs the Ping Anser/G25 anyways.

I actually cut 3/4 off of mine.  So I guess it is shorter in length than the Ping.
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 12:49 PM

Hype. I still hit the 07 burner TP longer by 6-7 yards average
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 01:19 PM

View PostJsjones, on 06 October 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

I have hit the same driver all year and have heard so much about the rbz 3 wood I had to purchase one.  Being new to the 3, I hit it a little and knew it was long but didnt know just how long.  So on a par 5 yesterday, I hit my driver (RBZ tour 10.5) and 3 wood (RBZ stage 2 Tour tuned to 16 degrees) the other day just to see the difference.  I thought they were close but I didn't know how close they were to each other.  I got about 20 yds difference between the two of them.  The 3 wood is extremely long.

That's a strange gap between the driver and 3 wood? Seems pretty standard to me.
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 01:21 PM

I am quite certain the OP is asking about the driver, but since everyone posting is commenting on the fairways... I wasn't aware that the object of a fairway wood was to hit the ball as far as possible? I would prefer to hit to the same distance every time, whether it is 10 yards longer or shorter than another club is irrelevant.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 02:17 PM

Round two today with my RBZ Stage 2 Driver with Oban Devotion.  Point and shoot is all I can say.  Crazy long, accurate and forgiving.  I know TM gets criticized for short product life cycles, marketing and such but if I look at things objectively I must admitt they make great equipment when one gets properly fit

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 02:51 PM

View PostGoIrish17, on 06 October 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

I am quite certain the OP is asking about the driver, but since everyone posting is commenting on the fairways... I wasn't aware that the object of a fairway wood was to hit the ball as far as possible? I would prefer to hit to the same distance every time, whether it is 10 yards longer or shorter than another club is irrelevant.

You're confused.  It does hit the same distance every time.  It's just a longer distance than other fairway woods.
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 03:28 PM

View Postrafal, on 06 October 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

View PostGoIrish17, on 06 October 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

I am quite certain the OP is asking about the driver, but since everyone posting is commenting on the fairways... I wasn't aware that the object of a fairway wood was to hit the ball as far as possible? I would prefer to hit to the same distance every time, whether it is 10 yards longer or shorter than another club is irrelevant.

You're confused.  It does hit the same distance every time.  It's just a longer distance than other fairway woods.

No, thanks, no confusion here. There's only one club in my bag that I want to go a maximum distance every time. The rest of the clubs I try to choose based on nicely filling gaps between that club and the flag stick. If I chose a bag full of the longest clubs I could hit, well that probably wouldn't be the best way to choose clubs. Seems to me choosing a 3 wood based on which I hit the farthest would only leave a larger gap to manage after the 3 wood.
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 03:35 PM

View PostGoIrish17, on 06 October 2013 - 03:28 PM, said:

View Postrafal, on 06 October 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

View PostGoIrish17, on 06 October 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

I am quite certain the OP is asking about the driver, but since everyone posting is commenting on the fairways... I wasn't aware that the object of a fairway wood was to hit the ball as far as possible? I would prefer to hit to the same distance every time, whether it is 10 yards longer or shorter than another club is irrelevant.

You're confused.  It does hit the same distance every time.  It's just a longer distance than other fairway woods.

No, thanks, no confusion here. There's only one club in my bag that I want to go a maximum distance every time. The rest of the clubs I try to choose based on nicely filling gaps between that club and the flag stick. If I chose a bag full of the longest clubs I could hit, well that probably wouldn't be the best way to choose clubs. Seems to me choosing a 3 wood based on which I hit the farthest would only leave a larger gap to manage after the 3 wood.

If RBZ2 goes too far (which for many is the case, as it can go as long as driver) then you can use 4W or even 5W instead to fill the gap, with extra forgiveness.  It's a win-win, no downside to high-cor, low spin fairway wood heads.  I can use driver-5W RBZ2 thanks to this.
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 04:07 PM

I hate white drivers and made up my mind I would not own one.  I now have a TM RBZ Stage 2 in my bag. It's as long as anything on the market.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 07:45 PM

I don't own one but have fit a lot of RBz tour drivers this year I would say if length is your main goal this one might be the longest...
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 10:08 PM

I'm not a TM fan boy but have a Stage 2 Tour driver with a couple of premium shafts, a Oban Kiyoshi White and a Motore Speeder 6.2 TS.  Each one of those shafts plays and feels completely different and I am trending toward the Speeder.

That Stage 2 Tour head is as long as anything I've owned or demoed to date and the real key is, as you know, the correct shaft for you.  Get the shaft right and that head will amaze you with the distance and the ease of getting that distance.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 11:10 PM

Thanks everyone I was referring to driver but I like the fairways too! I just need the right shaft now-- the question I have is if its longer and light shafts arent u sacrificing accuracy?

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 11:20 PM

View Postrussian7, on 06 October 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Thanks everyone I was referring to driver but I like the fairways too! I just need the right shaft now-- the question I have is if its longer and light shafts arent u sacrificing accuracy?

The driver isn't inherently longer than anything else out there, everything is at the max cor of 0.83. It might perform best for you, but that's got more to do with suitability than anything.

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 12:47 AM

Neither.  Like Thrill said it may be longer for some but that simply has to do with feel and suitability.  There is nothing technology or design wise that gives it an advantage over other drivers.  Don't rely on anecdotal stories on WRX to make a driver selection.  Go and try out different drivers and get your numbers.  I went into my local golf retailer thinking I was going to purchase the Stage 2 driver and ended up with the Adams Super S driver.  I tried at least 5 different drivers and the Super S gave me the best numbers.  All that means is the Super S was a superior product to the Stage 2 for me.


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 04:36 AM

Stage 2 driver is good but it's not clear-cut best for anyone.  I played it for a while but get better results with the old Superfast.  But my swing is smooth(read: slow) so the light-light design doesn't hurt my accuracy.
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 08:56 AM

I have had/hit both the Stg2 and original RBZ and I dont think there is any difference in distance.  But they are most likely longer than your current 3 wood.

It took me a while to switch out the R9 3 wood but I finally did with a Stg2...not because of distance so much as because of my ball flight (cant miss left with it).

I would honestly say that if you can find the shaft/set up you want in an original RBZ you will be just as happy as you would be with the STG2 in regards to distance but will find it much cheaper.
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 09:00 AM

View Postbrockgolf44, on 07 October 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

I have had/hit both the Stg2 and original RBZ and I dont think there is any difference in distance.  But they are most likely longer than your current 3 wood.

It took me a while to switch out the R9 3 wood but I finally did with a Stg2...not because of distance so much as because of my ball flight (cant miss left with it).

I would honestly say that if you can find the shaft/set up you want in an original RBZ you will be just as happy as you would be with the STG2 in regards to distance but will find it much cheaper.

Aw...just saw that this was in regards to driver.  Im still hitting a 5 yr old R9 that goes further than any white head driver TM has ever made so Im no use in this discussion
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 09:13 AM

I've hit most all of the current drivers and the Stage 2 wasn't anything special to me.  Like most TM drivers, I hit it pretty straight, but distance was just so-so.  The Covert, the X Hot, and the G25 were all longer with comparable shafts.  But to be fair, I did not get to hit the Stage 2 Tour.  For whatever reason, we never got a Tour head in our TMAG fitting cart.
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#30 Jimbud

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 09:27 AM

This driver get lots of interesting comments,  I saw on the GolfSmith site a customer swore up and down you had to have 110 mph SS to get any benefit from this driver with it's weight forward design. I actually saw the opposite, We have quite few members in there 70's that are playing this driver and seeing positive results.  Might have to do with the 315 gram weight. I play mine at 45.25 inches at 320 grams which is about a D2.5 swing weight.   I have about a 90 to 95 SS and it is longer then my 910 D2, Razr-Fit and G15.  I have a Bridgestone J33R that will go about the same distance but but you have to hit it in that half dollar sized sweet spot to see those results.   The white color still bothers me but I'll play what works.

Edited by Jimbud, 07 October 2013 - 12:30 PM.

TM RBZ Stage 2, Matrix Ozik Xcon 10.5
TM RBZ Stage 2 Tour 14.5 Faiway
Adams Idea Tech V4 18 Hybrid
Titleist 712 AP-2 irons  4-PW
Vokey 50, 54 & 58 wedges
Scotty Cameron Kombi S, 34

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