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Dropping Weights / Shaft Weights Taylormade R1

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#1 Matsui

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 02:28 PM

I have:

TaylorMade R1 w/55g Regular Shaft
I am having a hard time adjusting to the somewhat heavy overall feel of the club.  Are there any stock TM shafts that are lighter than that and that can fit into my R1?  Also, what tip size should I be looking for that is compatible with the R1 head.  Also, has anyone ever played without the weights screwed in the R1 head?  Is that reasonable?

TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour 14.5 Regular Shaft
I have that club and is in 70g weight shaft.  Once again, feels heavy.  Do I have any options in regards to losing some weight in the club?

For some reason I am hitting a push fade or just a straight push with these and they both feel heavier than my G15 models and those even have heavier shafts in them.


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#2 Aggie

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 02:45 PM

Matsui,

First and foremost (and I've been saying it a lot lately) make the effort to see a professional clubfitter. Here you go, I even found one for you right there in Fort Worth called Leonard Golf Links: http://leonardgolfli...clubfitting.asp

Secondly, much of the heft you describe "feeling" may not actually be the weight at all, but rather where the weight is positioned (i.e., the swingweight).

Per Taylormade's website, the swingweight on a regular flex stock R1 is D4. Basically, you are feeling a lot of the weight of the club in the head, which makes it feel heavier.

There are several ways you can remedy this:

- Reduce the weight of the adjustable weights in the head (you should have a 10 and a 1 gram, and you could buy another 1 gram to put in where the 10 gram is, for example).
- Getting a lighter shaft may affect it, but it will depend on which shaft you get.
- Backweight the club by adding something like a "Secret Grip" from Boccieri golf, or getting a grip installed with some lead tape under it. This would actually increase the overall weight of the club but the clubhead will, in effect, "feel" lighter.

It's all about feel, and feel is not real most of the time in golf, as Slicefixer told me.

Best case scenario? See a clubfitter.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 03:34 PM

As Aggie said you will need to put lighter weights (yes they make lighter/heavier weights for the head) in the head of the R1 so it will feel "lighter".    I have a 4 gram and 1 gram in mine instead of the 10g/1g.
As for the Stage 2....sorry but no weights in the head (designed that way) so "lighter" feel will come through making the shaft shorter.
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Posted 12 August 2013 - 03:34 PM

In additon to Aggie's comments, also don't forget the length has a big impact on the SW and how 'heavy' it can feel.  Are you playing at stock length?  if so, the first thing I'd try is to shorten them  ~1". Then think about replacing the 10 gm weight with something lighter.  Between those two things, you should be able to get a pretty significant reduction in how heavy it feels.

You can certainly try w/o the weights on the range to experiment but in order for the club to stay conforming to the rules (if that's a concern for you) something needs to be in each weight port.  Aftermarket weights can be had pretty cheaply on ebay.

As for the rbz stage two, if the length change doesn't work then you might want to try a shaft in the 60 gm range instead of the 70 you have.

Although it can work for some people, back weighting can actually result in the club feeling heavier for some people due to the increase in total static weight so I'd be careful about that approach.

Edited by Stuart G., 12 August 2013 - 03:36 PM.


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Posted 12 August 2013 - 05:21 PM

Thank you for the replies.  I am going to try to mess around with the weights and getting some lighter ones.


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Posted 12 August 2013 - 05:33 PM

Buy a TM weight kit on eBay and use the ones lighter than 10 grams.  I have a 6 and 1 in my R1, so it swings in at around D2.
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Posted 12 August 2013 - 06:12 PM

View PostMatsui, on 12 August 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

I have:

TaylorMade R1 w/55g Regular Shaft
I am having a hard time adjusting to the somewhat heavy overall feel of the club.  Are there any stock TM shafts that are lighter than that and that can fit into my R1?  Also, what tip size should I be looking for that is compatible with the R1 head.  Also, has anyone ever played without the weights screwed in the R1 head?  Is that reasonable?

TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour 14.5 Regular Shaft
I have that club and is in 70g weight shaft.  Once again, feels heavy.  Do I have any options in regards to losing some weight in the club?

For some reason I am hitting a push fade or just a straight push with these and they both feel heavier than my G15 models and those even have heavier shafts in them.

Cut the length to 45 inches will decrease overall weight and swing weight. Replacing the 10g weight with an 8g weight will also reduce overall weight. Of course, decreasing length and decreasing the moveable weights in grams will stiffen the shaft a bit. You can reduce the length and keep the weight and see what happens. Experiment. It's what I did. I bought heavier weights and went back and forth until I had the feel, and adjusted the other aspects of the driver until I was happy.  

Of course, the first thing that went was that shaft (and it had nothing to do with weight - just a preference)

PS -- You don't want to take out all the weight - a few grams make a big difference.

Edited by SwingMan, 12 August 2013 - 06:24 PM.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 06:16 PM

97% of the R1's are coming in around D7-E1! That's crazy heavy. I put a 2g and a 1g weight in there and added hotmelt at got mine to D3.5. Plenty of options without changing the shaft.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 06:27 PM

Am I the only one that actually added heavier weights to their R1?
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Posted 12 August 2013 - 07:11 PM

That's crazy. Have you put it on a swingweight scale?


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Posted 12 August 2013 - 10:07 PM

 Kuz013, on 12 August 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:

Am I the only one that actually added heavier weights to their R1?

Nope, I did too. But my R1 came from TMAG at 45" instead of the 45.5. Didn't order it that way either.
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Posted 13 August 2013 - 03:18 AM

 Kuz013, on 12 August 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:

Am I the only one that actually added heavier weights to their R1?

My mate plays his driver at E-0 and his irons are heavier still.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 05:31 AM

 jmcdonald, on 12 August 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

That's crazy. Have you put it on a swingweight scale?

I havnt,  I just messed around with some weights until I felt comfortable, I had it at 14-6, but I have since lowered it to the 10-6 setup
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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:36 AM

How do I know what swingweight I am playing with on the R1 after I tinker around with it?  I practice at Leonard Golf Links (home of Nike Oven plus great clubfitters), but I didn't buy the club there.  Would they put it on some tester or would I need to take it to a Golfsmith/Golf Galaxy/Edwin Watts type place?

Thanks for the ideas about the weight kit.  I had no idea.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 01:49 PM

 Matsui, on 13 August 2013 - 08:36 AM, said:

How do I know what swingweight I am playing with on the R1 after I tinker around with it?  I practice at Leonard Golf Links (home of Nike Oven plus great clubfitters), but I didn't buy the club there.  Would they put it on some tester or would I need to take it to a Golfsmith/Golf Galaxy/Edwin Watts type place?

Thanks for the ideas about the weight kit.  I had no idea.

I would think if you walk in and nicely ask just about anywhere would be happy to throw it on their SW scale.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 10:11 AM

 Matsui, on 13 August 2013 - 08:36 AM, said:

How do I know what swingweight I am playing with on the R1 after I tinker around with it?  I practice at Leonard Golf Links (home of Nike Oven plus great clubfitters), but I didn't buy the club there.  Would they put it on some tester or would I need to take it to a Golfsmith/Golf Galaxy/Edwin Watts type place?

Thanks for the ideas about the weight kit.  I had no idea.

Standard R1 is D4 swing weight with 10g and 1g weights in the head.
  • every 2g changes removed reduces swing weight by 1, and vice versa.
  • every 1/2" removed from the grip end (cutting your shaft shorter) will reduce swingweight by 3
Scenario
  • replace 10g with 1g = 9g / 2 = 4.5 reduction in swing weight, so R1 is C9.5. D0 to D2 is very common for standard men drivers
  • cut R1 shaft to play 45" from 45.5" = 3 reduction in swing weight. So R1 plays D1 now.
The more mass in the club head, the more forgiving, So i'd opt for shortening the shaft as it will also provide better control.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:21 PM

Mine is:

Head: TaylorMade R1 V1 (with 6g and 1g weights)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Rayon Diamana B-series 60 R flex
Playing length: 44.75"
Total weight: 320g
Calculated swing weight: D3

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