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SLDR vs R1 vs 913 D2/D3

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 11:59 PM

And let the battle begin...thoughts please.


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 04:46 AM

​There is no battles. All works differents for peoples. R1 spun too much for me. The way i hits my 8.5 d3 is perfect for me with fittings numbers.

Edited by goobers80, 09 August 2013 - 04:47 AM.

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 07:10 AM

I have a 913 D3 which I like a lot and hit well.  I used to be pretty anti-Taylormade and didn't even look at their drivers when I was selecting mine (wasn't a fan of white and black R1 wasn't yet available). A couple days ago I played a round with a friend who was in town and he rented clubs from the local course, full bag of Taylormade with Rocketblade Tour irons, R1 driver, Rocketballz woods, etc. Have to say, I was impressed. Irons were really nice but the R1 was the big surprise.  Big long and straight hits each time and it felt really good.  I hate to say it but I was hitting it better than my 913 D3.  After having that experience I really want to try the SLDR now...not that I can afford to make a change at this point unfortunately.  Maybe I can find a good deal on a black R1 in a couple months.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 08:52 PM

I play the 913 D2 with Miyazaki B. Asha 4S as it felt nice but not a strong club for wanting more distance. Had a black R1 which  turned out to be a nice club, I wasn't a big fan with the ASP plate on the bottom but I would take the black over the white any day. Longer than the 913 I had as it was not as forgiving. Now I have the SLDR and this is a very nice looking, feeling driver. It's easy to hit as I love the distance I'm getting with it even on a mishit I found the fairway as my occasional slice before is nice a long high fade and my hooks are straight pulls very long. Put a nice smooth swing follow through and you will get some very impressive results.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 09:34 PM

R1 V2 hands down... For my swing.

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 09:49 AM

The R1 is the most adjustable driver on the market and has the most consistent distance across the face of any driver...Fact (Watts robo testing verified).
Since driver distance is limited by USGA rules, the R1 is the logical choice for those seeking maximum distance and adjustability.
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Posted 11 August 2013 - 05:59 PM

Facts from a robot has nothings to do with a person on a course swingings a driver. My facts are that in my fitting the R1 was third best behinds 913 D3 ands the Cobra Amp drivers.
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Posted 11 August 2013 - 06:15 PM

View Postgoobers80, on 11 August 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:

Facts from a robot has nothings to do with a person on a course swingings a driver. My facts are that in my fitting the R1 was third best behinds 913 D3 ands the Cobra Amp drivers.


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Posted 11 August 2013 - 07:01 PM

View Postgoobers80, on 11 August 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:

Facts from a robot has nothings to do with a person on a course swingings a driver. My facts are that in my fitting the R1 was third best behinds 913 D3 ands the Cobra Amp drivers.

All drivers were tested the same way..R1 was tied for best distance across the clubface.
A robo hitting balls at a variety of points on the clubface is only way to make that determination with any accuracy.
Fact...look up the test.

Not saying another driver was not better for you...just that R1 IS more consistent across the face.

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 07:22 PM

I've tried the 913 drivers they are good. Didn't see much different from the 910 series. Haven't had a chance to try the R1 and SLDR yet. However i loved the new Nike Covert Driver.

However different results for everyone.

Edited by TheGameChanger, 11 August 2013 - 07:24 PM.


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Posted 11 August 2013 - 07:26 PM

Tested out my r1, a SLDR, and a 913d2 today.   Was barely any difference between the 3.  The r1 and SLDR might have average a yard or two father but they were all really close.  Didn't notice anything different in the dispersion between the 3 either.  Don't see any advantage between one or another.  I know my review probably doesn't help but I think there really  isn't too much difference from the top drivers from almost any maker.  Choose which one you think looks and feels best and run with it.  I got my r1 for free (birthday gift) and can't find a reason I would change right now

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 02:27 AM

All of these you mention in the thread title, and so many others from Callaway, Nike, Cleveland, Ping, many others, are so close these days that you are almost splitting hairs. I would be shocked if anyone could find more than a 5-10% distance difference between the 460cc drivers of all major OEMs. There might be one or two laggards, but maybe they are meant for something else (I.e., forgiveness over distance).

I have an R1, and I have grown to really love it after finding a shaft that works for me. I do not have a good club fitter near where I live, but was fortunate to stumble across a combination that works very well for me. Once I found the weight combination that worked best, I now have a lot of confidence in my driver where I used to have very little.

But much of that, honestly, has to do with improving my swing in the process.

Speaking for myself, I don't think you can go wrong with any of the recent drivers... They're all fantastic.

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 09:41 AM

Started the season with a 910 with an Ilima (bad fitting) which I never got along with, dumped it for the R1 black which was off and on with the stock phenom...then I tried the 913 D2 a bunch of different shafts and just ordered one with a D+ 62g stiff.  

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 09:35 PM

Anyone else bang their 913 against the SLDR

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 10:02 AM

I am experimenting with both of these. I have a 7.5 D2 and D3 against SLDR at 10.5, turned down to 9.5. The launch is pretty similar with a D+ in the 913 and 'ahina in the SLDR. Pretty crazy that I had to essentially go up 2 degrees in the SLDR. I have not finalized which driver I will be playing yet. In an early summary, the SLDR may have more roll out but worse dispersion. My miss with the SLDR is a hook, not as much as the 913. I tried the SLDR with a Kiyoshi white, but it didn't work too well for me. If I put a bad swing on it, likely from a hard transition, the hook would come into play. I think this might be related to the softer butt end.

I have a feeling I might be able to dial the spin down a little more in the 913. If I can, I think the 913 will stay in the bag. The sound goes to the SLDR, but I may add a little melt to the 913 since I find the head a little light playing the shaft at 44.75". I will post once I have made my "final" decision.


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 05:55 PM

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I am experimenting with both of these. I have a 7.5 D2 and D3 against SLDR at 10.5, turned down to 9.5. The launch is pretty similar with a D+ in the 913 and 'ahina in the SLDR. Pretty crazy that I had to essentially go up 2 degrees in the SLDR. I have not finalized which driver I will be playing yet. In an early summary, the SLDR may have more roll out but worse dispersion. My miss with the SLDR is a hook, not as much as the 913. I tried the SLDR with a Kiyoshi white, but it didn't work too well for me. If I put a bad swing on it, likely from a hard transition, the hook would come into play. I think this might be related to the softer butt end.

I have a feeling I might be able to dial the spin down a little more in the 913. If I can, I think the 913 will stay in the bag. The sound goes to the SLDR, but I may add a little melt to the 913 since I find the head a little light playing the shaft at 44.75". I will post once I have made my "final" decision.

I put 4-5 grams of lead tape on towards the toe on the bottom, makes a world of diff in the audio department....Hot melt is coming its way.

Thanks for your input, dispersion is what I am interested in, my reason for an SLDR would be to go up in loft making the club a touch easier more forgiving

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 09:31 PM

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​There is no battles. All works differents for peoples. R1 spun too much for me. The way i hits my 8.5 d3 is perfect for me with fittings numbers.

I also feel the R1 spins a bit too much for me as well, but I must need swing lessons since the R1 is the lowest spinning head on the market...(according to some AHOLE from an earlier thread).  I must say, the R1 is very easy to hit straight and I do occasionally hit some really big bombs with this club, but I do think I am losing some yardage hitting into the wind due to the spin.  I demoed a 9.5 SLDR using the shaft (Ahina 70x)  from my R1 TP and the R1 at 8* is a higher ball flight than the 9.5 SLDR which is why I have a new SLDR TP on the way.
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Posted 23 October 2013 - 10:41 PM

View Postdrbonesvt, on 23 October 2013 - 05:55 PM, said:

View PostTriputter, on 23 October 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:

I am experimenting with both of these. I have a 7.5 D2 and D3 against SLDR at 10.5, turned down to 9.5. The launch is pretty similar with a D+ in the 913 and 'ahina in the SLDR. Pretty crazy that I had to essentially go up 2 degrees in the SLDR. I have not finalized which driver I will be playing yet. In an early summary, the SLDR may have more roll out but worse dispersion. My miss with the SLDR is a hook, not as much as the 913. I tried the SLDR with a Kiyoshi white, but it didn't work too well for me. If I put a bad swing on it, likely from a hard transition, the hook would come into play. I think this might be related to the softer butt end.

I have a feeling I might be able to dial the spin down a little more in the 913. If I can, I think the 913 will stay in the bag. The sound goes to the SLDR, but I may add a little melt to the 913 since I find the head a little light playing the shaft at 44.75". I will post once I have made my "final" decision.

I put 4-5 grams of lead tape on towards the toe on the bottom, makes a world of diff in the audio department....Hot melt is coming its way.

Thanks for your input, dispersion is what I am interested in, my reason for an SLDR would be to go up in loft making the club a touch easier more forgiving

From the range today, it looks like the 913 wins in the dispersion department, hands down. Will be playing it on Friday, so will look for roll out and total distance compared to the SLDR. I will be playing my home course, so it should be fairly definitive. Have a 1-day tourney on Wed, so I need this decision made soon for confidence on the first tee.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 10:53 AM

I have owned all three and would rank them in this order: R1, 913 D2, and then the SLDR. But that is only based upon my experience - and is subjective considering I played each with a different shaft. (R1 - Kiyoshi White, 913 D+, and the Tour Spec Speeder in the SLDR.)

I don't like the color or the sound of the R1, but it really hard to argue against the results. Long and straight almost every drive.

913 D2 was long and fairly forgiving, but I was much more comfortable with the R1.

The SLDR, well, I am sure it gets great reviews, but for me it was a mess. I found it more difficult to get dialed in than the R1 and less forgiving that both the R1 and 913. When I did get the SLDR dialed in, I played four rounds with it, and in each round I would have at least one "big miss" with it. (I am talking OB miss.)
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Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:33 PM

Been playing the 912d2 for a while and just picked up an R1.  Should have a decent shaft for it soon.  Main difference so far is the R1 sounds and feels like crap, but I'll have to wait till its on the course a while to dismiss it.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 03:52 PM

 Triputter, on 23 October 2013 - 10:41 PM, said:

 drbonesvt, on 23 October 2013 - 05:55 PM, said:

 Triputter, on 23 October 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:

I am experimenting with both of these. I have a 7.5 D2 and D3 against SLDR at 10.5, turned down to 9.5. The launch is pretty similar with a D+ in the 913 and 'ahina in the SLDR. Pretty crazy that I had to essentially go up 2 degrees in the SLDR. I have not finalized which driver I will be playing yet. In an early summary, the SLDR may have more roll out but worse dispersion. My miss with the SLDR is a hook, not as much as the 913. I tried the SLDR with a Kiyoshi white, but it didn't work too well for me. If I put a bad swing on it, likely from a hard transition, the hook would come into play. I think this might be related to the softer butt end.

I have a feeling I might be able to dial the spin down a little more in the 913. If I can, I think the 913 will stay in the bag. The sound goes to the SLDR, but I may add a little melt to the 913 since I find the head a little light playing the shaft at 44.75". I will post once I have made my "final" decision.

I put 4-5 grams of lead tape on towards the toe on the bottom, makes a world of diff in the audio department....Hot melt is coming its way.

Thanks for your input, dispersion is what I am interested in, my reason for an SLDR would be to go up in loft making the club a touch easier more forgiving
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From the range today, it looks like the 913 wins in the dispersion department, hands down. Will be playing it on Friday, so will look for roll out and total distance compared to the SLDR. I will be playing my home course, so it should be fairly definitive. Have a 1-day tourney on Wed, so I need this decision made soon for confidence on the first tee.

please let us know how your trial goes

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 03:56 PM

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 04:46 PM

 Bill3508, on 24 October 2013 - 02:33 PM, said:

Been playing the 912d2 for a while and just picked up an R1.  Should have a decent shaft for it soon.  Main difference so far is the R1 sounds and feels like crap, but I'll have to wait till its on the course a while to dismiss it.
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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:11 AM

I don't know about TM SLDR but I had R1 and R11s both TP model.  Sold both and got me a Cleveland TL310 and Titleist 913 D3.  For me, I am more consistent smaller head.  Also TL310 and 913D3 were more forgiving than TM'.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:00 AM

Find a competent shop with a launch monitor, the aformentioned clubs in demos/fitting carts, and from my limited experience with the program, Swinglabs software.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:15 AM

I've played the following:

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9.5* 913D3 with the Fujikura Motore Speeder tour spec 7.2 X stiff
R1 with the Fujikura Motore Speeder tour spec 7.2 stiff
9.5* SLDR with the Fujikura Fuel tour spec 6.2 X stiff

All of these were real shafts, not made fors.

The titliest was deadly accurate. Not the longest, but still long. it spun to much with the Diamana, but the Motore fixed that problem.

The R1 was the longest so far. It was pretty accurate as well.

The SLDR isn't as consistent as the others, but I think it's because of the low spin issue. I's still dialing this thing in right now. I seem to hit this one dead left allot. Like I say, still dialing it in.

Honestly I'd have to say that the driver I had the most confidence with was the 913.
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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:41 AM

 fairwaysroverated, on 25 October 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

I've played the following:

9.5* 913D3 with the stock Diamana shaft stiff
9.5* 913D3 with the Fujikura Motore Speeder tour spec 7.2 X stiff
R1 with the Fujikura Motore Speeder tour spec 7.2 stiff
9.5* SLDR with the Fujikura Fuel tour spec 6.2 X stiff

All of these were real shafts, not made fors.

The titliest was deadly accurate. Not the longest, but still long. it spun to much with the Diamana, but the Motore fixed that problem.

The R1 was the longest so far. It was pretty accurate as well.

The SLDR isn't as consistent as the others, but I think it's because of the low spin issue. I's still dialing this thing in right now. I seem to hit this one dead left allot. Like I say, still dialing it in.

Honestly I'd have to say that the driver I had the most confidence with was the 913.

I echo your comments. My miss with the SLDR is more of a hook than the 913. This is with the face angle open 2 notches and the weight 2 notches to the toe. I may slide the weight over to the toe more. TM has the lie angle at 59-62 degrees and Titleist at 58.5. For some reason I think this may have something to do with my swing. I tend to like flatter lie angles in my irons and putter as well. Should be playing later today. Will see how the 913 fairs.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 03:55 PM

Just picked up the R1 Black with the 55g stock stiff shaft from the pre-owned rack...went to the range with my 913 D3 to do some testing...my thoughts:

1. R1 is long, significantly longer than the D3.
2. D3 is easier to manipulate ball flight, and slightly more accurate.
3. The sound on the R1 is horrible.

I hit the SLDR in the store, but I'm inclined to put the R1 in the bag for now.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:42 PM

SLDR over my R1 any day, with my AD DI 6s in it.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 06:44 PM

 Triputter, on 25 October 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

 fairwaysroverated, on 25 October 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

I've played the following:

9.5* 913D3 with the stock Diamana shaft stiff
9.5* 913D3 with the Fujikura Motore Speeder tour spec 7.2 X stiff
R1 with the Fujikura Motore Speeder tour spec 7.2 stiff
9.5* SLDR with the Fujikura Fuel tour spec 6.2 X stiff

All of these were real shafts, not made fors.

The titliest was deadly accurate. Not the longest, but still long. it spun to much with the Diamana, but the Motore fixed that problem.

The R1 was the longest so far. It was pretty accurate as well.

The SLDR isn't as consistent as the others, but I think it's because of the low spin issue. I's still dialing this thing in right now. I seem to hit this one dead left allot. Like I say, still dialing it in.

Honestly I'd have to say that the driver I had the most confidence with was the 913.

I echo your comments. My miss with the SLDR is more of a hook than the 913. This is with the face angle open 2 notches and the weight 2 notches to the toe. I may slide the weight over to the toe more. TM has the lie angle at 59-62 degrees and Titleist at 58.5. For some reason I think this may have something to do with my swing. I tend to like flatter lie angles in my irons and putter as well. Should be playing later today. Will see how the 913 fairs.

I know the lower the loft the less lie angle has an effect on shot shape, but something with the toe way in the air.  Is it 59-62* TMAG lie angle tolerance, or thats the fulll range of the adjustment options.  MY EFFIN wedges are only 62.5*  My 913* , 57.5*

Edited by drbonesvt, 25 October 2013 - 06:47 PM.


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