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MY Phrankenwood Experiment - TEE XCG6 11.5 3wood with AD-BB 7s


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#1 jthunter

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:20 AM

I have been reading various posts about the Phrankenwood and other "driver replacement" 3 woods and I got the opportunity to build one.  I received a TEE XCG6 11.5 3wood as a give away at a member guest recently.  Thought I would give it a try.  More importantly, I thought I would a Graphite Design AD-BB 7s i had in it before I did....as the stock shaft just felt whippy.

Me - 47 years old, 6'2" 200lbs - 2 HDCP.   Not a long hitter, but i am not short either.  Current Driver is a RBZ Stage 2 with AD-DI 7s (44.5 inch playing length) and I can carry it  270-275 with another 10-15 yards of roll on good days.  So after 4 days on the course......WOW!  Larger head is awesome, but not overbearing.  Great set up at address - slightly open. Swingweight came out to D3 which made it easy to feel the head and load the clun correctly.

I dont know if i got lucky because of the shaft or the shaft/head combo but this thing lives up to the hype. My carry is not what my driver is - but with roll it catches up quickly.  On average I have been carrying the TEE 255-260 and it runs after that.  Down hill and firm fairways it runs forever.  The best part - it is user friendly and controllable off the tee like my old 3wood.  

Two cons - 1.) I am at best 50/50 when trying to hit it off the deck.  I use to be 75%+ successful with my Razr Fit 3wood off the deck - but I noticed when I choke on the 43" TEE XCG6 it gets a little easier. 2.) It is too close to my Driver and creates a gap to my 17* hybrid.  

Regardless - just wanted to post that it was a fun experiment and for those struggling with the driver there is something to this "phrankenwood" concept.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:35 AM

Thanks for sharing the "build". How is launch with the 11.5* and how does the XCG6 fare in terms of forgiveness relative to the Fit? I know it's tough to compare since they are different lofts but I'm curious to hear your thoughts. I'm looking at picking up either a 13* or 15* XCG6 at some point.
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:43 AM

As for forgiveness - I would give it a 9.5/10.  Slight mishits still go a long way and I never feel like I am wrestling the head to stay square when I do hit the toe or heel like my driver.   The head is just the right size to match performance and forgiveness before heading in the Drive Size face.  The hype IMO is somewhat true.  FYI - this is my first TEE club ever, so I am not trying to pimp my favorite brand.

As for launch - I think the shaft helps out dramatically -and with that in mind that the AD BB is a low launch/low spin it still launches very similar to my 13* degree 3wood I game from time to time.  It doesn't appear to be to low considering it is an 11.5, it just seems to hold the launch angle and create the carry - at the same time it comes down on a traditional decent angle of a 3wood so it runs, unlike my driver that carries well but the decent angle minimizes the roll.
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:18 AM

Thanks, I appreciate the information. I have an XCG3 that I like, except the 15* launches too high sometimes.
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:19 AM

This may be a stupid question but is there a point where it becomes a 2 wood?  I'm pretty sure my gramps is playing an 11.5* driver...

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:32 AM

Cool.  Thanks for sharing.  Good stuff.
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:45 AM

View PostOneTime16, on 07 August 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

This may be a stupid question but is there a point where it becomes a 2 wood?  I'm pretty sure my gramps is playing an 11.5* driver...

I think it's all semantics and labels, but a smaller, FW size head with lower loft like this, I'd consider a 2-wood, vs a 460cc 12* driver, which I'd still consider a driver. Doesn't matter, as long as it works for whoever is using it.  

Back in the day, I think the 2W was also known as the Brassie, and was around 11-12 degs. Anyone remember this? I couldn't get that in the air, but had a 13* Tour Spoon, which was a strong 3 essentially (second picture).

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:53 AM

View PostPuppetmaster, on 07 August 2013 - 08:45 AM, said:

View PostOneTime16, on 07 August 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

This may be a stupid question but is there a point where it becomes a 2 wood?  I'm pretty sure my gramps is playing an 11.5* driver...

I think it's all semantics and labels, but a smaller, FW size head with lower loft like this, I'd consider a 2-wood, vs a 460cc 12* driver, which I'd still consider a driver. Doesn't matter, as long as it works for whoever is using it.  

Back in the day, I think the 2W was also known as the Brassie, and was around 11-12 degs. Anyone remember this? I couldn't get that in the air, but had a 13* Tour Spoon, which was a strong 3 essentially (second picture).

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I used to have a Pittsburgh Persimmon like the bottom one!! It was a seven wood and was dynamite from the rough. Couldn't an old-school TaylorMade Burner with the bubble shaft be considered a frankenwood?? I had a 10.5 degree that I also used as a 3 wood.
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:57 AM

I had a 3+ wood in my bag for a looooooong time. Still have it. Was a great club off the deck and good off the tee. Penick 3+. I think it was 13 degree loft. Had a Ti shaft in it. Might put it back in because the newer 3 woods aren't as good off the fairway( RBZ was horrible and the R11 I use now is tolerable).

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:59 AM

View Postbillyhandsomeface, on 07 August 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

I used to have a Pittsburgh Persimmon like the bottom one!! It was a seven wood and was dynamite from the rough. Couldn't an old-school TaylorMade Burner with the bubble shaft be considered a frankenwood?? I had a 10.5 degree that I also used as a 3 wood.

I still have my Burner Plus 4W that's 18* and smaller than most hybrids on the market today. I should take it out for a spin sometime.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:07 AM

View PostOneTime16, on 07 August 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

This may be a stupid question but is there a point where it becomes a 2 wood?  I'm pretty sure my gramps is playing an 11.5* driver...


I agree with you completely - this is fundamentally a 2 wood made with modern technology.  I have by no means decided to make this a gamer - but it is fun to hit on the range and to take on the course to see what it does.  It is hard for me to find a spot in the bag - but for those who have trouble with keeping the driver in the fairway, it may be a good experiment.  You get the control of a 3wood and 80-90%  the distance of a driver.
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:12 AM

View Postjthunter, on 07 August 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

View PostOneTime16, on 07 August 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

This may be a stupid question but is there a point where it becomes a 2 wood?  I'm pretty sure my gramps is playing an 11.5* driver...


I agree with you completely - this is fundamentally a 2 wood made with modern technology.  I have by no means decided to make this a gamer - but it is fun to hit on the range and to take on the course to see what it does.  It is hard for me to find a spot in the bag - but for those who have trouble with keeping the driver in the fairway, it may be a good experiment.  You get the control of a 3wood and 80-90%  the distance of a driver.

I have a 3Deep that didn't pan out to be as reliable as I wanted, but one way I thought about it was that it would be useful for specific courses that place a premium on accuracy or are just penalizing off the tee, and also where I wouldn't need to hit 3W off the deck.
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:27 AM

This is my next project, I've been scanning around for a good deal on a 2 wood to shaft up for a little while, hopefully I can snake one soon! Sweet setup
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