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What is a good 2013 Driver for a 70 year old Senior?


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#1 bradnnw

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 11:49 PM

I plan to buy a new 2013 Driver and live far from a city so getting fit or to demo clubs is not easy.  I'm 70 with a 16 handicap.  I'm sure other seniors have tested the new drivers.  The Taylormade R1 with all the adjustments should fit most swings.  Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks, Brad


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 11:53 PM

View Postbradnnw, on 30 June 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

I plan to buy a new 2013 Driver and live far from a city so getting fit or to demo clubs is not easy.  I'm 70 with a 16 handicap.  I'm sure other seniors have tested the new drivers.  The Taylormade R1 with all the adjustments should fit most swings.  Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks, Brad

The thing about the R1 is that you cannot adjust the face angle without adjusting the loft. The reason for this is that the face angle adjustment is actually just a screw in the bottom of the club that depends upon the driver being "soled," i.e., sat flat on the ground. It is not a real face angle adjustment, however. For a slower swinging senior, you would probably want something with higher loft anyway to get the ball in the air. In that case, the R1 at 12 degrees should be some 3 degrees closed. If you struggled with a slice, that might work fine, but if you hook the ball ever, watch out.

I do have an R1 and I really enjoy it. It's really got some pop if you hit near the center of the face.


However, considering your situation I would vote for the Nike Covert. It is adjustable for both face angle and loft, independently, and it probably comes with the best stock shaft of any major OEM drivers (the Kuro Kage).

Doesn't hurt that it looks great, feels great, and hits the ball very well. Get the silver-bottomed one, which helps get the ball in the air via a lower center of gravity.

Edited by Aggie, 30 June 2013 - 11:55 PM.


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 11:56 PM

You can go in many directions with this question.   Here's a start...

http://www.callawayg...iver/specs.html

At least toward the age of 70, your need for the premium priced shafts are  somewhat lessened.. :)
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:21 AM

Same age ,same handicap. After  having had 3 adjustable TM drivers (R9,R11, R11s ) and Callaway razr black all 10.5 reg shafts over last 4 years  I have settled on a TM rbz  10.5 reg . What I did do though was buttcut shaft half inch to 45.5 and put 3 wraps under grip for more control.
For me almost perfect. Adjustability is great if you think it makes a difference ,for me caused more problems.
I found the rzr black head too shallow and although supposedly 10.5 and square  face it was definately closed and compared to the rbz loft looked around 8.5  as  result could not get the ball high enough but looong on hard fairways.



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:48 AM

1. Adams Super S according to this thread:

http://www.golfwrx.c...per +best +show

2. Callaway XHot

Edited by SwingMan, 01 July 2013 - 04:51 AM.

Callaway is trending up

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:51 AM

My vote goes for the Wilson D100. It's ultralight yet maintains a swingweight of D1. Got a 10.5 reg flex for my pops whom turns 77 today. $150 used off the Bay. Best driver I've seen him hit in a long time.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:55 AM

I'm 66, ss is 88-90, 6-8 hdcp. You should really consider a G25. It is adjustable 1/2 degree lower/higher loft. When adjusting the lower loft will also open the face 1/2 degree and adding will close the face 1/2 degree. The G25 is 'stupid easy' to hit. Just ask me. lol. For seniors there is a shaft (TFC 189d) that comes ladies, seniors, regular, stiff, X-stiff. I also have an Anser with 2 shafts. One is the Ping TFC 800d and it works well in the G25 too. As an OP said, at our age you don't need to be worried about high end 3/4$00.00 dollar shafts and the Ping shafts are said to be some of the best 'made for shafts.' Posts on WRX say the shafts are made by UST for Ping. WIth a G25 you will get high ball flight, probably as long distance as you are going to get. My Anser is longer because it tends to give more roll (5-8 yds) but the biggest plus to the G25 is it just wants to go straight. If you are in good health, fairly strong for someone our age, good swing and tempo there is no reason you could not handle the TFC shafts in 'regular.' Ping drivers also tend to be higher in loft than what is stated on the club head so take that into account. Most 10.5 heads are really around 11-12 degrees. G25 shaft is 45.75 so it will help with distance if that's an issue. I have mine at 44.25 the same as the Ansers. You can order it that way or try it and cut some off if you like. 1/2 inch really does not change the club that much. Also, I do not know your financial situation so this is just FWIW. There are still plenty of G15s and G20s around new at very reasonable prices. They were also excellent drivers just not adjustable.
Good Luck.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 05:58 AM

I have a friend who is 72 years old, and a true club ho.  He has had several new drivers this year, and recently purchased the G25.  I don't think he has missed a fairway since he got it!  He really loves the G25.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 06:02 AM

You can't go wrong with the G25 or the X-Hot.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 06:26 AM

Brad, the ball does not know you are 70 years old! We can stereotype you into the slow swing speed low launch category but this might not be the case. Personally I would steer clear of the one size fits all models (Taylormade, cobra and nike) unless you fit into their stock neutral position (+ or - a degree or so). Adjustments for loft changes greater than this can put the head in an address position which is hard to look at (or play with).

If you feel your swing is in the stereotype then there are plenty of models offering higher launch and spin. The Callaway XHot, Taylormade RBZ stage 2, Ping G25, Adams Speedline super s and Mizuno JPX 825 all offer easy launch and come in high lofted versions if required. They all come with stock light weight shafts to help maximise swing speed. The Titleist 913 D2 should be added to the list simply because it is available in 12 degree and has a vast range of shafts available at no extra cost (the bassara 50 and 55 are great shafts for easy swinging distance), plus it is the only one sticking to the more playable 45 inch standard length (an important fitting paramater).

If possible drive to a demo day or find a local professional with a fitting cart and go and try before you buy!

Edited by DaveMac, 01 July 2013 - 01:45 PM.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:01 AM

View Postbradnnw, on 30 June 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

I plan to buy a new 2013 Driver and live far from a city so getting fit or to demo clubs is not easy.  I'm 70 with a 16 handicap.  I'm sure other seniors have tested the new drivers.  The Taylormade R1 with all the adjustments should fit most swings.  Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks, Brad

Brad, I'm 8 years younger but play with guys from my age to quite a bit older than you. Some hit stiff shafts still, some are smooth and ryththmic and have senior shafts. I'm about 90 with driver but  a firm reg to stiff works for me best in fairways and drivers. Irons less stiff.


Since an in person fitting may be difficult for you, please provide a bit more information on your swing type, to what you are playing now, and maybe if you have tried  a buddy's driver recently, what is was and shaft, and how that worked for you.

I might also add that I love the R11s (that is less half the price of the R1 now) and have two- a 10.5, and a 12, that I've set the same at 11.25*.   I bought the 12* recently from a legit company on eBay and I'm sure it's a legit club. But the shaft "regular" is not near as firm  as the other stock "regular" that maybe is a firm reg compared to some.  So I'm playing the new head with old shaft, (and square setting with the sole adjustments, as that suits my eye best).

I've also cut the drivers down 1/2" for playability and with available Taylormade weights, added some more weight to help get some of the stock swingweight back.

I did demo the R1 one day, with the stock 50g Phenom in stiff, set at 12* and it felt very smooth, and great carry with  a baby draw. Actually a bit smoother shaft than my R11s "regular".

So inconsistencies can arise within one club type, despite the variations in club makers. For example, in my experience Callaway wood shafts play much looser than the stated flex, especially the tip. As another poster said about another club, if your miss is left (or you have an agressive transition), look out.

Edited by myspinonit, 01 July 2013 - 08:08 AM.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:09 AM

View Postlawsonman, on 01 July 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

You can't go wrong with the G25 or the X-Hot.

Haven't tried the G25, but the Xhot has a closed face that I didn't like and I found it too tip soft for this senior.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:23 AM

I'm 66 and use a Titleist 913D2 10.5.  I hardly ever miss the fairway with this club.  Distance is good can hit the ball high or low based on the wind.  Best driver I have ever owned.  I use a Senior Flex shaft.  Do yourself a favor and give this club a try.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:34 AM

Taylormade RBZ or Titleist 913D2


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:41 AM

G25


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:42 AM

G25

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:44 AM

That new callaway optiforce 460 has a super lightweight shaft as a stock option- that should definitely help!

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 09:11 AM

G25 12 degree, can dial down to 11.5 or up to 12.5 with a regular flex or senior flex shaft.

Edited by CosmosMpower, 01 July 2013 - 09:11 AM.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:35 AM

G25 senior flex hands down. My 70 year old grandfather plays it and has a lot of success driving the ball.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:43 PM

the nike covert is scary long and is great if you need to put the ball up in the air.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:44 PM

The G25 would be the best option
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Posted 09 July 2013 - 05:23 PM

Thank you for all the replies.  I went with the consensus and ordered a Ping G25, 12*, Soft Regular (senior) shaft.

I would have preferred travelling to the city and tried a few brands but never had a Ping before.  Summers going by so quick I needed to get on with it!
Thanks again,
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Posted 09 July 2013 - 06:45 PM

It's not a 2013, but I put my 73-year-old dad into a Long Tom 11*, and he's as long as he was 15 years ago.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 06:50 PM

View Postbradnnw, on 09 July 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

Thank you for all the replies.  I went with the consensus and ordered a Ping G25, 12*, Soft Regular (senior) shaft.

I would have preferred travelling to the city and tried a few brands but never had a Ping before.  Summers going by so quick I needed to get on with it!
Thanks again,
Brad

Smart move, let us know how the G25 works out.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:16 AM

View PostFunkey, on 01 July 2013 - 08:23 AM, said:

I'm 66 and use a Titleist 913D2 10.5.  I hardly ever miss the fairway with this club.  Distance is good can hit the ball high or low based on the wind.  Best driver I have ever owned.  I use a Senior Flex shaft.  Do yourself a favor and give this club a try.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 02:43 PM

Callaway X Hot is a great driver for someone looking to keep up the distance.
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:53 PM

G25 or Cobra AMP CELL.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 04:40 PM

Don't pass up trying the Ping Anser too... with the senior shaft it is really supposed to be a nice driver for slower swing speeds and it is incredibly forgiving.




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