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Things Golf Courses do RIGHT


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#1 sigmapete1

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 12:54 PM

Let's hear some positive vibes for once.   What have you seen on a course (design, setup, upkeep, other players actions) that you wish you saw more often.  


Here's a couple of mine:
  • I usually walk so I love when they mow paths from the tee box to the fairway.  Great when the ground is wet and makes you feel even better taking the path straight down the fairway when you've hit a good one.  Makes you feel like a pro.
  • Dramatic elevation changes, especially downhill.  Nothing better than standing on a very elevated high tee overlooking a par 5 and hitting a drive that seems to hang in the air forever.
  • Discounts when they aerate.  Even if its slight, that is a course I would come back to.


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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:10 PM

1.) Score cards with pictures of the green complexes (length and width included) and divided into sections giving you a pretty good idea of Pin Placement. "Today's pin placement is #1"
2.) Well maintained bunkers with consistent sand
3.) When their website actually lists the dates of their aeration schedule.
4.) Grass practice area with complementary balls.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:13 PM

I like courses that have plenty of water out on the course. When you're walking on hot days, you need to keep hydrated. I don't understand why some courses have *no* water on the course.I mean, c'mon, it's H20.

Also, courses that have chipping areas. Most golfers tend to neglect their short games, and it isn't helped when you see "No Chipping" signs all over the place.

Let's also hear it for courses that have sufficient numbers of rakes for the bunkers. Nothing like having to walk twenty yards to get the single rake for a large bunker.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:16 PM

View PostDCSerafin, on 14 May 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

2.) Well maintained bunkers with consistent sand

Amen. Nothing like hearing a good "thump" on a nice bunker shot from quality sand. Of course, some of the courses around here don't have bunkers, as much as they have concrete swimming pools with a light layer of dust. If a course can't have proper drainage in the bunkers, then replace them with grass.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:19 PM

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:21 PM

View Postsigmapete1, on 14 May 2013 - 12:54 PM, said:

Here's a couple of mine:
  • I usually walk so I love when they mow paths from the tee box to the fairway.  Great when the ground is wet and makes you feel even better taking the path straight down the fairway when you've hit a good one.  Makes you feel like a pro.

Actually, there a number of things that good courses do to encourage, or at least make life easier for, walkers. How about signs near the greens directing you to the next hole? The way some courses are routed, it's not always apparent where one should exit the green. Walking along the cart path isn't always the most direct route.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:23 PM

View PostDCSerafin, on 14 May 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

1.) Score cards with pictures of the green complexes (length and width included) and divided into sections giving you a pretty good idea of Pin Placement. "Today's pin placement is #1"

Yes, definitely an improvement over red/white/blue flags. It's probably because I'm getting too old, but sometimes it's hard to tell the flag color, especially when the course has red/white, black/white, blue/white checkered flags.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:27 PM

On a course with elevated tee boxes, it's nice to have markers at ground level to indicate the color. Nothing like running up to the tee with club in hand, only to find out that you past your tee box 30 yards back.

Along the lines, tee marker colors that are easy to distinguish. You ever play a course that has 4 or 5 different color tees, and several of the colors are almost indistinguishable? How about good old green, red, white, blue, and black? Copper? Teal? Magenta?

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:34 PM

View PostArgonne69, on 14 May 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:


Along the lines, tee marker colors that are easy to distinguish. You ever play a course that has 4 or 5 different color tees, and several of the colors are almost indistinguishable? How about good old green, red, white, blue, and black? Copper? Teal? Magenta?

haha this. The two middle markers at oak point in Kiawah are very similar and you can easily mistake which one if you don't take a second look and there are a few more in this area that do the same.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:41 PM

View PostPapa Johick, on 14 May 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

View PostArgonne69, on 14 May 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:

Along the lines, tee marker colors that are easy to distinguish. You ever play a course that has 4 or 5 different color tees, and several of the colors are almost indistinguishable? How about good old green, red, white, blue, and black? Copper? Teal? Magenta?

haha this. The two middle markers at oak point in Kiawah are very similar and you can easily mistake which one if you don't take a second look and there are a few more in this area that do the same.

Lol. While I'm at it, make the tee markers "breakaway". One of the courses in my area uses 8 inch cuts of (train) rail, and they must weigh 20 lbs a piece. A year ago I hit a fantastic drive, and I start walking off the box while admiring my drive, and "wham", I kicked the marker, and fell flat on my face. My toe was bruised for a week, not to mention my ego.


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Posted 14 May 2013 - 02:07 PM

Legacy on Lanier outside Atlanta includes food and beverages in your green fee. You have to buy your alcohol, but things like hot dogs, ham and cheese sandwiches, soda, juice, etc. are included in your green fee as well as complimentary range balls.

Thought that was a neat little touch.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 02:29 PM

Kudos to any course that will take a reservation for a single player. I don't expect to fill a completely open slot, eliminating the option of the course booking a foursome in the time slot, but it's nice to be able to reserve a tee time with an existing twosome or threesome. Telling a single to just come out doesn't work. I've had to wait several hours at times to finally tee off. Of course, I've stopped playing those courses. Funny, but the courses that I play that are happy to accommodate singles happen to have a lot of singles playing there, and their tee sheets always seem fully booked.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 02:54 PM

  • Air Compressor guns to clean your shoes and push cart
  • Pencil and bucket of balls included in the green-fee
  • Pin positions indicated in the cart or;
  • Color coded pin flags to indicate position on the green (e.g. red = back, blue = middle and yellow = front)
  • A Marshall that really works to maintain pace of play and is not scared to confront slower players
  • Ball cleaners at every hole
  • "Next hole" direction signs
  • On-line available tee time visibility and reservation possibilities


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Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:12 PM

smokin' hot cart girls :wave:

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:35 PM

Courses that are "walker friendly", such as having footbridges and trails or shortcuts from greens to tees that eliminate hundreds of extra yards of unnecessary walking. I hate being forced to walk 40 or 60 extra yards just to cross a stream via the cart path when a simple footbridge would suffice.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:49 PM

GPS in the carts is nice.  
Cypress Bend in Toledo Bend give complimentary little tin divot tools.  
Yes hot cart girls are nice.
I love it when they have active marshalls.  When pace is slow they are on it.  When things are moving I like when they stop and chat, talk about the course and even give some course management advice.  Love that.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:53 PM

View Postitchyfinger, on 14 May 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

I love it when they have active marshalls.  When pace is slow they are on it.  When things are moving I like when they stop and chat, talk about the course and even give some course management advice.  Love that.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:59 PM

View Postmwkbmw, on 14 May 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

Courses that are "walker friendly", such as having footbridges and trails or shortcuts from greens to tees that eliminate hundreds of extra yards of unnecessary walking. I hate being forced to walk 40 or 60 extra yards just to cross a stream via the cart path when a simple footbridge would suffice.

There are many courses that seem to be indifferent to walkers, and then there are those that are borderline hostile. As you note, the lack of a clear, direct path between holes is one indication. Another is the overuse of poles, fences, chains, railroad ties, etc., that are primarily intended to keep electric golf carts away from greens and tee boxes, but don't allow walkers carrying their clubs, or using a pushcart, to access the area. The lack of a closely mown path from the tee box to the fairway is yet another.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:02 PM

I saw this once at a course down in Alabama: golf carts with "air conditioning"! Each cart had an ice chest, and flexible plastic tubes ran from the ice chest to the spot just above the players' heads. The ice chest had a built-in fan, so the contraption blew ice-cooled air on to your neck. Nice! :-)

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:06 PM

View Postitchyfinger, on 14 May 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

GPS in the carts is nice.  

Yes, and GPS that show the other groups' cart location is even better, especially on courses that have blind shots. It's nice to know when the group in front of you are clear.


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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:13 PM

View PostDillio187, on 14 May 2013 - 03:12 PM, said:

smokin' hot cart girls :wave:

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:19 PM

Currently on holiday in Palm Springs. Played a course call Eagle Falls today and this is what I liked:
1) Friendly staff
2) Free range balls and a grass range
3) Four bottles of water in an cooler box filled with ice
4) towels on the cart
5) good GPS on the cart with a large screen, darn thing even tells you the story of each hole via a speaker.
6) sub 4 hour round
7) course and paths clearly marked

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:21 PM

Best thing about our course is, on weekends they 'remind people of the expectations for pace of play in the mornings' which keeps the slow hacks off the course until twilight!
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 05:47 PM

1.  Pencils where the lead actually comes to a point.
2.  Box on 2nd hole which carries aforementioned pencils and scorecards.
3.  Cold beer.
4.  All items mentioned by "Argonne69" and "Flying Dutchman" above.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:03 PM

1. Have a driving range within reasonable distance of the first tee, preferably grass.

2. Have a good number of targets on the range, with accurately measured distances. I'm annoyed by ranges that have nothing inside 125-150, as I like to practice my half and quarter wedge shots and am usually left just guessing how far they're going. If I ever run a driving range, I'll put at least stakes like the 150 yard markers in the ground every 10 yards or so, giving you something to laser and shoot at.

3. Good marshalls maintaining pace of play and monitoring for various idiotic behavior.

4. Guidelines to only play off the back tees with a handicap below say 10 or 15, to at least keep people who have zero business playing the back tees from thinking it's acceptable. They may do it anyway, but at least they'll know they're jerks.

5. Bottles of sand on the carts to repair divots. Sometimes they explode and you can't replace them.

6. Well maintained bunkers.

7. Notes on the scorecard or at the tee to identify drop zones. It's annoying to hit a shot in a hazard off a tee with a forced carry, tee it up again, hit over and be lying 3, only to pass a drop zone on the other side that you could have used and hit 3 instead.

8. Good routing to prevent backups. One course I play a lot has TERRIBLE routing from 1-3 that causes an automatic backup of at least one group, if not 2-3.

9. This is more layout, but I love a course that offers more challenging tee shots with forced carries off the back tees and a lot less difficulty and easier angles from the whites. In theory every course is probably trying to do this, but when it's well executed it's awesome.

10. Quick service in the clubhouse. It's so annoying to run in at the turn for a bottle of water and a granola bar only to be stuck there for like 7-8 minutes because the service is slow... for stuff that doesn't even have to be prepared... Then you have to run out and rush through the 10th hole. As a result, you stop going in and giving the clubhouse business they could otherwise be getting.


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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:03 PM

A lot of good things here. I'd also like to mention benches. At 58 I still walk and carry most of the time, that said, I still like to take a load off from time to time. :-)
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:16 PM

I'm not super picky as long as the greens are in good shape, there's sand in the bunker and the pace is moving.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:53 PM

My course is run so poorly that it is rarely busy and I can usually fly through 18 holes is 3 hrs, and sometime 2 hrs if I'm solo. I guess that's a positive.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:56 PM

- Soft bunkers
- flat-ish tee boxes.  I hate having to move around the tee box trying to find a flat spot

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 02:55 AM

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