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Heavy shaft to play RBZ Tour driver at 44"? What about a 3-wood shaft?

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#1 DonD

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:08 PM

I am thinking about trying to play my RBZ Tour 10.5* driver at 44", in the hopes that I will get greater consistency.   I am not a DIY club/shaft repair/install guy, so I'd like to avoid having to do too much fooling around with adding weight to the head, hot melt, lead tape, "tipping" the shaft, etc. etc.  So, I was thinking that I could just go with a heavier weight driver shaft, and if I play it at 44" the swingweight and flex properties would still be "normal."  Plus,  I have a driver SS of about 105, and tend to fight too much spin...so I figure most shafts that fit this description will help me knock off a little spin to boot.  Do I have the right idea here?  And if so, any specific shaft recommendations...including what weight shaft I should be looking for?

Another question...couldn't you just use a 3-wood shaft to accomplish this?  Wouldn't a "standard" length R11/R11s 3-wood shaft play to about 44" installed in an RBZ driver?  If so, what about something like a MOTORE F3 80g 3-wood shaft?  Would that work?

Thanks.

Edited by DonD, 22 April 2013 - 10:43 PM.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:59 AM

TM stock 3w shafts are 43-43.5"...so you'd be extra short in a driver

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:54 AM

A heavier weight driver shaft certainly is one way to offset the reduced SW of cutting down the length.  You're logic is partially correct as no weight added to the head means no need to tip.  However,  the downside to that approach is that you have to add a lot more static weight than you would if it were added at the head. Cutting down 1" would loose about 6 SW pts.  It takes 2 gms per sw pt when added to the head.   It takes ~9-10 gms per SW point when using a heavier shaft.   That means in theory, you'd need a shaft +60 gms heavier to get back to the original SW.

Now weight fitting is really all about getting a good combination of both static and SW (not just the later) so it is certainly possible that by going with a heavier shaft in a reasonable range (+10-20 gms) the increase in static weight will help reduce the need to increase the SW as much at the shorter length.

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Another question...couldn't you just use a 3-wood shaft to accomplish this?  Wouldn't a "standard" length R11/R11s 3-wood shaft play to about 44" installed in an RBZ driver?

I don't have the exact BBTG measurements for my r11s 3w but the difference between the BBTG on it and the driver might add another 1/2" to the original playing length.  I could probably try it tonight - do you have the rbz tour or non-tour head (it does make a difference)? Even if it wasn't enough a shaft extension could easily be used to cover the difference.   Remember though, 3w shafts are tipped so it would play stiffer in the driver unless you added weight to the head.

Edited by Stuart G., 23 April 2013 - 03:54 AM.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:58 AM

I have just put an Accra Dymatch S2 R11 3 wood shaft in my RBZ Tour head and it comes out at 43 1/4" and C4 swing weight. It is 45" and D3 with a Fubuki R11 shaft. Swing weight will be an issue.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 06:05 AM

I have a Cally RFX at 44" with a Nunchuk that is at D-4.  My 3 wood is an R11 at 43" and as a side note, I am 6'-2" tall.  I am hitting the sweet spots more consistently and my worst misses are only a couple of yards away from the fairway.  What little you think you may lose you will gain in accuracy. I actually gained distance because of the better contact.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 06:33 AM

Thanks, guys...Stuart, I have the Tour head.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 06:48 PM

 DonD, on 23 April 2013 - 06:33 AM, said:

Thanks, guys...Stuart, I have the Tour head.

I just did a quick check.  An r11s 3w shaft at 43.25"  (-1/4" from stock) in the 3w should measure around 44" in the tour rbz head.   Well, I actually don't have the tour head any more but used my r9 ST instead.  When I did have the two the shaft lengths came out exactly the same for both so the above numbers should be good.  As an FYI, the r11s driver and non-tour head would come out to about 1/4" shorter.

Edited by Stuart G., 23 April 2013 - 06:50 PM.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:27 PM

Thanks, Stuart...I went to Edwin Watts here in Orlando today and we took the stiff RIP Phenom 80g TP shaft out of a 14* R11S 3 wood and put it in my RBZ Tour head.  It measured right at 44"; it was a new 3W, so I can only assume it was stock length...I hit the driver a dozen or so times into the simulator and got faster ball speed, more carry, and better dispersion with the 3W shaft than I did with the stock shaft that's in it now...it did measure at D0 swing weight, which is probably not ideal for a driver, but it felt ok to me.  I think it's definitely worth the experiment...now I just need to find an R11S RIP Phenom 80g 3W shaft for sale...anybody?

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:41 PM

Nunchuk
Titleist 913 9.5* w/ Diamana S+ Blue
Titleist 913Fd 15* w/ Diamana S+ Blue
Titleist 913H 19* w/ Diamana S+ Blue 82

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:47 PM

 Flatstick77, on 23 April 2013 - 09:41 PM, said:

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I just put one of these in my 910D2.  Amazing shaft.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 10:35 AM

Will the Nunchuk be heavy enough at the length I'm looking to play it?





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