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Lengthening shaft and its effect on lie angle


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#1 MattMo

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 10:10 PM

Ok, so based on my findings in older posts, every 1/2" extension of iron shafts will increase lie angle by 3/4 - 1*.   So, in theory, if one was to purchase a set of irons at standard length, but needed them 1/2" long, purchasing a set 1* flatter than needed would bring them to correct lie angle once extensions are added, correct?  Granted, this does not take SW changes into account.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 10:16 PM

You are correct, you would need a flatter lie with longer clubs.  But no way to know if it's 1* per 1/2 inch.  Best bet is to get checked on a lie board.

It also depends on brand of clubs. One companies standard may not be the same as others.

Edited by WalleyeDave, 16 March 2013 - 10:17 PM.


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Posted 16 March 2013 - 10:25 PM

I'm looking at a set of older Pings and it's just so dang hard to find a good used set in my exact specs.  I have my eye on a set that is 1* flatter than I play and is standard length ( I play + 1/2").
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 11:02 PM

If you fit in to +1/2" standard lie, then you fit into +1/2" standard lie. You could probably play a set that was +1" and 1* flat, but the club may then be inconsistent for you because it could be too long. As long as you are ok with diminishing the resale value a bit, it isn't a problem to bend most Ping iron sets. I just bent a G15 lob wedge from 58* loft up to 60* today. Once you get the length proper, do a lie angle check by a fitter and adjust accordingly.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 11:59 PM

How about if you order a set of new clubs +1/2", standard lie. Does the manufacturer take the extra length into account with respect to lie? Or do you need to order 1* flat because your increasing shaft length.

It would seem to me that the manufacturer would make the club standard lie with respect to the length. The buyer should not have to do all this guesswork.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:35 AM

View PostYMark, on 16 March 2013 - 11:59 PM, said:

How about if you order a set of new clubs +1/2", standard lie. Does the manufacturer take the extra length into account with respect to lie? Or do you need to order 1* flat because your increasing shaft length.

It would seem to me that the manufacturer would make the club standard lie with respect to the length. The buyer should not have to do all this guesswork.

I would obviously order with custom specs if I was in the market for some $700 irons, but these are just a cheap $150-200 used set.  My specs are white dot (3* up) +1/2". My initial post may have been misleading regarding what lie I needed. My bad
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:40 AM

Keep in mind that Ping color codes relate to "effective lie angle", not head angle.  If you find some older Pings that came stock with longer shafts, the head angles won't match those built with standard length shafts even though the dot color may be the same.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:42 AM

Your premise seems to be accurate, theoretically:  the general rule is: as clubs get longer, the lie gets flatter.   In other words, a wedge that is 36" inches long has a more upright lie than a driver with a 45" ( or more ) shaft.

the trick here is that you are only talking about adding 0.5" to the length of the shaft.  Practically speaking, that little bit of added length may have no impact on lie angle.  

Go ahead and buy the used set.  See how they work.  if not right, then either resell 'em or have the lie adjusted.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:49 AM

I believe the formula is one Ping color code for each 1/2" length change.  The old Ping color code system was 1* for each color code, but they scaled that back to 3/4* to better align with the 1/2" length change.




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