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Posted 24 November 2013 - 10:46 PM

Dress shoes are a nightmare for me. I have super wide feet and I have the worst time finding a dress shoe to accommodate my Fred Flintstone feet.

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 02:03 PM

View Postjlt73, on 24 November 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

Dress shoes are a nightmare for me. I have super wide feet and I have the worst time finding a dress shoe to accommodate my Fred Flintstone feet.

Go here, print this chart, and use it. I was able to confirm in 15 seconds what took me months of trial and error to figure out.

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 02:11 PM

Question for the dress shoe class:

Have you ever only had the dreaded break-in period on one shoe?  I have the pair I got yesterday on today, and left inside heel is getting punished right now, so I softened the heel counter a bit manually.  Hard to tell if it helped, since it has blistered already.   So far my right foot feels perfect...

I know that welted shoes can be extra stiff and take extra time, but thought it was weird that it was only in one of the shoes...?  Any insight or similar experiences here?

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 03:52 PM

View PostGooseHook, on 25 November 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

View Postjlt73, on 24 November 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

Dress shoes are a nightmare for me. I have super wide feet and I have the worst time finding a dress shoe to accommodate my Fred Flintstone feet.

Go here, print this chart, and use it. I was able to confirm in 15 seconds what took me months of trial and error to figure out.

http://www.allenedmo...d_fit_guide.pdf

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 06:27 PM

View PostVa_Golfer86, on 25 November 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Question for the dress shoe class:

Have you ever only had the dreaded break-in period on one shoe?  I have the pair I got yesterday on today, and left inside heel is getting punished right now, so I softened the heel counter a bit manually.  Hard to tell if it helped, since it has blistered already.   So far my right foot feels perfect...

I know that welted shoes can be extra stiff and take extra time, but thought it was weird that it was only in one of the shoes...?  Any insight or similar experiences here?

I have one foot which is slightly bigger than the other.  Maybe a quarter size.  Depending on the cut of the shoe, I have found a similar feeling.

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:41 AM

View PostGooseHook, on 14 November 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

Just added these to the collection:

Shell Aldens? Beautiful!

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:43 AM

I got into dressing better about a year ago. reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice is my go-to.

Shoe collection is currently as follows (plus plenty of sneakers and athletic shoes that don't need to be mentioned):

Allen Edmonds Park Ave (black)
Allen Edmonds Strand (bourbon)

Red Wing Beckman (black cherry) <--- self-gift coming this Christmas
Clarks Desert Boot (beeswax)
Sperry Top Sider (sahara)

I want to break into higher end of Alden/Oak Street Bootmakers/John Lobb at some point down the road.

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 05:18 AM

​I wear sneakers or spikeless  golf shoes no matters the occasion. Rooms for toes beats it all.

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:20 AM

View Postbjackson, on 26 November 2013 - 01:43 AM, said:

I got into dressing better about a year ago. reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice is my go-to.

Shoe collection is currently as follows (plus plenty of sneakers and athletic shoes that don't need to be mentioned):

Allen Edmonds Park Ave (black)
Allen Edmonds Strand (bourbon)

Red Wing Beckman (black cherry) <--- self-gift coming this Christmas
Clarks Desert Boot (beeswax)
Sperry Top Sider (sahara)

I want to break into higher end of Alden/Oak Street Bootmakers/John Lobb at some point down the road.

Nice little thread on the color scheme there for seasons.  Actually, tons of good info there...

Nice collection too.  I'm waiting on the post Christmas sale at Nordstrom to get another pair or two.

So far I'm eyeing the Magnanni cap toe (black) and Park Ave (merlot)

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:30 AM

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View PostGooseHook, on 14 November 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

Just added these to the collection:

Shell Aldens? Beautiful!

Excellent guess. Color #8 perforated captoes :)

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:32 AM

View PostVa_Golfer86, on 25 November 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Question for the dress shoe class:

Have you ever only had the dreaded break-in period on one shoe?  I have the pair I got yesterday on today, and left inside heel is getting punished right now, so I softened the heel counter a bit manually.  Hard to tell if it helped, since it has blistered already.   So far my right foot feels perfect...

I know that welted shoes can be extra stiff and take extra time, but thought it was weird that it was only in one of the shoes...?  Any insight or similar experiences here?

What kind of shoes are they?  Different brands may have different construction methods...


However, most welted shoes (especially of the Goodyear variety) are constructed with corkbeds under your feet. The combination of these, and leather soles, absolutely required breaking in.

Until the footbed and sole are a little broken in, heel slippage is normal and thus blistering.  I like to wear mine around the house with thicker socks to ease them in.
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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:33 AM

I have a pair of brushed oxfords from clarks.  Been having them for 6 years now and still love them.

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:45 AM

View PostGooseHook, on 26 November 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:

View PostVa_Golfer86, on 25 November 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Question for the dress shoe class:

Have you ever only had the dreaded break-in period on one shoe?  I have the pair I got yesterday on today, and left inside heel is getting punished right now, so I softened the heel counter a bit manually.  Hard to tell if it helped, since it has blistered already.   So far my right foot feels perfect...

I know that welted shoes can be extra stiff and take extra time, but thought it was weird that it was only in one of the shoes...?  Any insight or similar experiences here?

What kind of shoes are they?  Different brands may have different construction methods...


However, most welted shoes (especially of the Goodyear variety) are constructed with corkbeds under your feet. The combination of these, and leather soles, absolutely required breaking in.

Until the footbed and sole are a little broken in, heel slippage is normal and thus blistering.  I like to wear mine around the house with thicker socks to ease them in.

They are J&M.  Bondwelt constructed...not quite Goodyear, but the same reason for slippage I'm sure.  Just thought it was weird my left foot is the only one affected ...so far.  I'll throw on some thick socks at home over the next few days to accelerate the process.

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:50 AM

Vote to change this into the non-golf shoe appreciation thread? Sorry for the length/pic-heaviness..yes I have a problem, yes this collection is growing.. I have not ho'ed golf clubs in almost 2 years and this is the result.


Shoes

Rancourt Beefroll Penny Loafer (brown Chromexcel):


Alden Snuff Suede Blucher:


(New)Alden Longwing, Natural CXL:


Alden Perf Captoe (color 8 shell cordovan)


Boots

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And finally, most importantly, the one pair of shoes that I will only part with over my dead body.  My Alden 403s, also known as "The Indy Boot."


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 12:18 PM

View PostGooseHook, on 26 November 2013 - 10:50 AM, said:

Vote to change this into the non-golf shoe appreciation thread? Sorry for the length/pic-heaviness..yes I have a problem, yes this collection is growing.. I have not ho'ed golf clubs in almost 2 years and this is the result.


Shoes

Rancourt Beefroll Penny Loafer (brown Chromexcel):
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Alden Snuff Suede Blucher:
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(New)Alden Longwing, Natural CXL:
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Alden Perf Captoe (color 8 shell cordovan)
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Boots

Red Wing Chukka (Oro-iginal)
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Rancourt Blake Boots (made-to-order, Navy/Natural Chromexcel)
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And finally, most importantly, the one pair of shoes that I will only part with over my dead body.  My Alden 403s, also known as "The Indy Boot."
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You're killing me! Great stuff. I was tempted to get Indys a few months back when J Crew had their 20% off sale including third party items.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 12:59 PM

Leather references:

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:18 PM

Huge fan of this thread - currently have four pair of Crockett & Jones and three pair of Aldens (2 boots).  I absolutely love my C&J shoes and my favorite pair, which I've had for almost 4 years and has been re-soled once, seems to be getting better with age.

I also own the 403 Indy's and they are my favorite shoes this time of year and I actually wore them to work today b/c of the rain. I'll try to get a picture up once I get a chance to clean up my pair of Alden #8 PTB which are in terrible shape right now and needed cleaned and conditioned.
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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:59 PM

I've been looking for a pair of boots like those Alden 403's for awhile now. I may have to check out a pair

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:40 PM

View Postahoop24, on 26 November 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

Huge fan of this thread - currently have four pair of Crockett & Jones and three pair of Aldens (2 boots).  I absolutely love my C&J shoes and my favorite pair, which I've had for almost 4 years and has been re-soled once, seems to be getting better with age.

I also own the 403 Indy's and they are my favorite shoes this time of year and I actually wore them to work today b/c of the rain. I'll try to get a picture up once I get a chance to clean up my pair of Alden #8 PTB which are in terrible shape right now and needed cleaned and conditioned.

That's what's so great about shell.

Even beat up, you can wipe with a damp cloth, brush like a madman, and buff to a good shine. Do you use Saphir or Venetian Cream for conditioning?

I've got a giant container of VSC and won't be using my #8 wax on the captoes for a long time.
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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:44 PM

View Posttocino, on 26 November 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

I've been looking for a pair of boots like those Alden 403's for awhile now. I may have to check out a pair

It's a stock model carried by just about every US Alden retailer.  A quick list off the top of the head:

The Shoe Mart
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The Alden shop of SF has their own website too.  Feel free to post any questions about sizing...some Aldens are a bit wonky.

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:57 PM

Now I really want 403s

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 08:42 AM

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 08:56 AM

Goose, impressive collection!

I've been in a "grown man" phase lately and have pretty much stopped wearing sneakers or running shoes unless I'm working out or making a quick trip to run an errand.  Having a nice pair of dress shoes or dress boots is getting more and more vital to the wardrobe.  Just recently bought a pair of duck boots since for this fall/winter, I'm going for a lumberjack/Alaskan fisherman type look and the look is quite dapper.  I didnt know much or any of these other shoe companies but it looks like I'll be making investments in these shoes since they look really well built and will last a long time.
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 09:04 AM

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Goose, impressive collection!

I've been in a "grown man" phase lately and have pretty much stopped wearing sneakers or running shoes unless I'm working out or making a quick trip to run an errand.  Having a nice pair of dress shoes or dress boots is getting more and more vital to the wardrobe.  Just recently bought a pair of duck boots since for this fall/winter, I'm going for a lumberjack/Alaskan fisherman type look and the look is quite dapper.  I didnt know much or any of these other shoe companies but it looks like I'll be making investments in these shoes since they look really well built and will last a long time.


Same here..it's hard to go wrong with Bean boots, in this type of weather we're having.  Mine should arrive by Monday!

For the look you're sporting, a pair of Red Wing Iron Rangers or Beckmans might do the trick.  The best part about pretty much all the shoes being discussed here is that they are not only resoleable, but if the time comes and you want a different sole for a different purpose, you have that option.

To use Red Wing as an example, this blog post shows that you're not limited to the typical white wedge sole on most of the models.
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 09:12 AM

View PostGooseHook, on 27 November 2013 - 09:04 AM, said:

View PostBoogaloo_Jones, on 27 November 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

Goose, impressive collection!

I've been in a "grown man" phase lately and have pretty much stopped wearing sneakers or running shoes unless I'm working out or making a quick trip to run an errand.  Having a nice pair of dress shoes or dress boots is getting more and more vital to the wardrobe.  Just recently bought a pair of duck boots since for this fall/winter, I'm going for a lumberjack/Alaskan fisherman type look and the look is quite dapper.  I didnt know much or any of these other shoe companies but it looks like I'll be making investments in these shoes since they look really well built and will last a long time.


Same here..it's hard to go wrong with Bean boots, in this type of weather we're having.  Mine should arrive by Monday!

For the look you're sporting, a pair of Red Wing Iron Rangers or Beckmans might do the trick.  The best part about pretty much all the shoes being discussed here is that they are not only resoleable, but if the time comes and you want a different sole for a different purpose, you have that option.

To use Red Wing as an example, this blog post shows that you're not limited to the typical white wedge sole on most of the models.

http://www.zappos.co...e-6-iron-ranger

http://www.zappos.co...f=pd_sims_sdp_1

I really like the white wedge sole on some of their collection.  Especially when its paired with black leather or a dark copper brown, looks real classy with a bit of ruggedness and a hint of sportiness.  Just a real all-around good looking shoe.  

If you were to get these shoes resoled, do you need to take them to a Red Wing dealer/resoler? or will anyone do?

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 09:23 AM

View PostBoogaloo_Jones, on 27 November 2013 - 09:12 AM, said:

View PostGooseHook, on 27 November 2013 - 09:04 AM, said:

View PostBoogaloo_Jones, on 27 November 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

Goose, impressive collection!

I've been in a "grown man" phase lately and have pretty much stopped wearing sneakers or running shoes unless I'm working out or making a quick trip to run an errand.  Having a nice pair of dress shoes or dress boots is getting more and more vital to the wardrobe.  Just recently bought a pair of duck boots since for this fall/winter, I'm going for a lumberjack/Alaskan fisherman type look and the look is quite dapper.  I didnt know much or any of these other shoe companies but it looks like I'll be making investments in these shoes since they look really well built and will last a long time.


Same here..it's hard to go wrong with Bean boots, in this type of weather we're having.  Mine should arrive by Monday!

For the look you're sporting, a pair of Red Wing Iron Rangers or Beckmans might do the trick.  The best part about pretty much all the shoes being discussed here is that they are not only resoleable, but if the time comes and you want a different sole for a different purpose, you have that option.

To use Red Wing as an example, this blog post shows that you're not limited to the typical white wedge sole on most of the models.

http://www.zappos.co...e-6-iron-ranger

http://www.zappos.co...f=pd_sims_sdp_1

I really like the white wedge sole on some of their collection.  Especially when its paired with black leather or a dark copper brown, looks real classy with a bit of ruggedness and a hint of sportiness.  Just a real all-around good looking shoe.  

If you were to get these shoes resoled, do you need to take them to a Red Wing dealer/resoler? or will anyone do?

Same here, it's one of those polarizing things though.  And honestly, I'd take that over the sole on the IR. That thing's just not good when it's slippery outside. There's also a color that's a little hard to find- Sage Mohave.  It's a medium gray, and despite "looking like" a delicate suede shoe, it's actually what's called "roughout" leather..which is waterproof and doesn't show scratches.

As for resoling, it depends.  If you want one of the soles that Red Wing offers you have to take it in to a RW store (we've got a bunch around here) to send off, or you can mail them directly to Minnesota for recrafting. You can get other soles at various cobblers, if you can find a cobbler.
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 09:58 AM

Huge AE fan when buying shoes in the US. Here's a nice article on what changes AE recently made

http://www.fastcompa...age?partner=rss

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 10:09 AM

Those 403s are a work of art, Goose.  And so is that collection!!!  I'm just getting started, but planning to make a serious investment over the next 12 months.  Hopefully I'll have some decent updates after Christmas too...

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:56 PM

View PostGooseHook, on 27 November 2013 - 09:23 AM, said:


Same here, it's one of those polarizing things though.  And honestly, I'd take that over the sole on the IR. That thing's just not good when it's slippery outside. There's also a color that's a little hard to find- Sage Mohave.  It's a medium gray, and despite "looking like" a delicate suede shoe, it's actually what's called "roughout" leather..which is waterproof and doesn't show scratches.

As for resoling, it depends.  If you want one of the soles that Red Wing offers you have to take it in to a RW store (we've got a bunch around here) to send off, or you can mail them directly to Minnesota for recrafting. You can get other soles at various cobblers, if you can find a cobbler.

The IR looks fantastic, but I'd only be limited to wear that on dry days especially since I have very clumsy feet.  I think we boots of these caliber, you only need maybe 2-3 pairs, a brown/copper, a black, and a grey and you're set for an entire wardrobe.

I was looking at these after picking up some flannel shirts, but I dont know if Thorogood is a good brand.  

http://www.ae.com/we...atId=cat2770116

I will say that I love the style on these...
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 01:35 PM

View PostBoogaloo_Jones, on 27 November 2013 - 12:56 PM, said:

View PostGooseHook, on 27 November 2013 - 09:23 AM, said:

Same here, it's one of those polarizing things though.  And honestly, I'd take that over the sole on the IR. That thing's just not good when it's slippery outside. There's also a color that's a little hard to find- Sage Mohave.  It's a medium gray, and despite "looking like" a delicate suede shoe, it's actually what's called "roughout" leather..which is waterproof and doesn't show scratches.

As for resoling, it depends.  If you want one of the soles that Red Wing offers you have to take it in to a RW store (we've got a bunch around here) to send off, or you can mail them directly to Minnesota for recrafting. You can get other soles at various cobblers, if you can find a cobbler.

The IR looks fantastic, but I'd only be limited to wear that on dry days especially since I have very clumsy feet.  I think we boots of these caliber, you only need maybe 2-3 pairs, a brown/copper, a black, and a grey and you're set for an entire wardrobe.

I was looking at these after picking up some flannel shirts, but I dont know if Thorogood is a good brand.  

http://www.ae.com/we...atId=cat2770116

I will say that I love the style on these...

I'd rather take a pair of Red Wing moc toes for a little bit more.  The RWs have tanklike construction, very strong leather, and aren't riddled with tags and logos on the outside.

Chippewa also makes a good boot.

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