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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:58 PM

Hi all,

I've created a detailed review of the S&T 2.0 Understanding the Numbers DVD.  I was trying to format it using the posting text tools, but it got a bit challenging :mellow: so I've attached it as a PDF instead.

Hope you enjoy it - let me know if you have any questions!

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:22 PM

Amazing write up. Kudos to you. :)

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:27 PM

Excellent review sir!
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:27 PM

View PostHappyGolf, on 26 February 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

Amazing write up. Kudos to you. :)

Thanks very much!  Enjoy!
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

View Posttembolo1284, on 26 February 2013 - 04:27 PM, said:

Excellent review sir!

Thanks!  (I sometimes have a bit of time on my hands HAHA).  Lucky guy I am!

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:26 AM

I thought they did a very nice job on it. Any golf nerd like me will enjoy the content.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:00 AM

Nice job, I enjoyed it even though I haven't read the book or seen the dvd's.

I know that 59 fella is a huge fan of the model

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:16 AM

View PostCmartingolf, on 27 February 2013 - 12:26 AM, said:

I thought they did a very nice job on it. Any golf nerd like me will enjoy the content.

I agree!  Haha, me too..lots to learn there.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:23 AM

View Postchrisgilly09, on 27 February 2013 - 01:00 AM, said:

Nice job, I enjoyed it even though I haven't read the book or seen the dvd's.

I know that 59 fella is a huge fan of the model

Oh definitely.. he said he wished he knew all the info a long time ago.

I would recommend a combo of the book and the 2.0 DVDs. If you can only get one, that's tough because it depends on what you prefer. I'd say if you like more checkpoint references to go for the book, but if you like lots of ball hitting demos and scientific measurement, the 2.0s are the way to go.

Personally I can't stop watching the ball hitting demos!
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:28 AM

Well that did it for me. I have the book and have been having pretty good success with S/T since I committed to it a few months ago. I am now going to order the DVD's for sure.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:18 PM

View PostSPARKP, on 27 February 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

Well that did it for me. I have the book and have been having pretty good success with S/T since I committed to it a few months ago. I am now going to order the DVD's for sure.

I think you'll love them.  The 2.0 DVDs are so good, especially since they use the protracer to really give the viewer a feel for how high and far the pros hit the ball.  There are segments where you can see the tightness of the dispersion patterns for each player too.  They are fantastic!

Honestly, even if you don't use S&T or just use small bits of it, you'll really enjoy the videos! (honestly I believe the majority of pros have a more modern centered swing rather than the sway back and forth ala Ballard and what Golf Digest would lead you to believe).
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:30 PM

View Post^m9, on 27 February 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostSPARKP, on 27 February 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

Well that did it for me. I have the book and have been having pretty good success with S/T since I committed to it a few months ago. I am now going to order the DVD's for sure.

I think you'll love them.  The 2.0 DVDs are so good, especially since they use the protracer to really give the viewer a feel for how high and far the pros hit the ball.  There are segments where you can see the tightness of the dispersion patterns for each player too.  They are fantastic!

Honestly, even if you don't use S&T or just use small bits of it, you'll really enjoy the videos! (honestly I believe the majority of pros have a more modern centered swing rather than the sway back and forth ala Ballard and what Golf Digest would lead you to believe).



I couldn't agree more with you about your last statement. For some reason there seems to be a "stigma" attached to the term "stack and tilt". So even though it's pretty obvious when you see some of the pros swing, when they tell you what they are doing you will never hear S/T.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:46 PM

View PostSPARKP, on 27 February 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

View Post^m9, on 27 February 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostSPARKP, on 27 February 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

Well that did it for me. I have the book and have been having pretty good success with S/T since I committed to it a few months ago. I am now going to order the DVD's for sure.

I think you'll love them.  The 2.0 DVDs are so good, especially since they use the protracer to really give the viewer a feel for how high and far the pros hit the ball.  There are segments where you can see the tightness of the dispersion patterns for each player too.  They are fantastic!

Honestly, even if you don't use S&T or just use small bits of it, you'll really enjoy the videos! (honestly I believe the majority of pros have a more modern centered swing rather than the sway back and forth ala Ballard and what Golf Digest would lead you to believe).


I couldn't agree more with you about your last statement. For some reason there seems to be a "stigma" attached to the term "stack and tilt". So even though it's pretty obvious when you see some of the pros swing, when they tell you what they are doing you will never hear S/T.

Absolutely!  Sean O'Hair comes to mind, and really any of Foley's students (yes that includes Tiger).  You'll never hear them say "I've changed my swing to the more modern and ubiquitous centered swing model".  I've seen some Sean O'Hair videos where he goes out of his way to make sure everyone knows "I don't like the Stack and Tilt" even though that's what he was doing under Foley.  Look at Hunter Mahan's swing.  Just awesome.  Upper axis and head don't move an inch, his hands go way in on the backswing, upper arms are quite tight to the torso, back leg straightens a bit and his weight goes forward on the downswing.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Qg8c4Vr3w

His finish isn't the typical S&T model's finish and of course there are other differences, but all in all a very modern centered swing.  I don't see him making a massive lateral move to his back leg during the backswing.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 09:19 AM

great review!!!




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