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[Big L]

Huskypride28, on 25 February 2013 - 10:08 AM, said:

I think it was also the format of match play and less players in the field than a normal weekend.  When you only have a few players in the field, there's more opportunity for him to gripe about something.  But I did agree with his comments on slow play.  I think the more it's talked about the more the PGA will do somehting about it.

That makes sense, just felt like he was more critical than usual and had a few more " I'd ..." comments

[2putttom]

C. Freeman, on 24 February 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

Yes, but at least he shut down Jacobsen and his absurd comment about someone (I forget who) being able to compete in the Octagon in MMA.  Peter deserved to be made fun of after that.

I liked it.It gets the point across.

[moonshine]

Did he say anything "interesting" after tw and rm went out early?

[Frankensteins Monster]

Don't like Miller but I think it's fantastic he called the slowness out.

[PaulFitz]

ttm27, on 24 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

Yeah I kinda thought the same thing.  He was all over Webb about slow play.  And Jason Day.

For good reason. Especially Simpson. PGA Tour really needs to do something about pace of play. It trickles down. College golf is absurdly slow right now. Most rounds take 5-5.5 hours, and most tournaments have you playing 36 a day. Sure, the AJGA is trying to help, but the PGA Tour needs to step up and set a precedent  for pace of play.

[Vindog]

PaulFitz, on 25 February 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

ttm27, on 24 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

Yeah I kinda thought the same thing.  He was all over Webb about slow play.  And Jason Day.

For good reason. Especially Simpson. PGA Tour really needs to do something about pace of play. It trickles down. College golf is absurdly slow right now. Most rounds take 5-5.5 hours, and most tournaments have you playing 36 a day. Sure, the AJGA is trying to help, but the PGA Tour needs to step up and set a precedent  for pace of play.

Why Especially Simpson?  He wasn't even the slowest guy out there.  Why no mention of GMac?   GMac and Day were so slow they were holding Webb up!!

If the Am and College ranks want to mitigate slow play then they can by all rights do so.  If it bothers them, let them govern it.  They need to take the initiative and responsibility themselves.  Why does it fall on the responsibility of the PGA Tour to enforce pace of play in the AM ranks?

Edited by Vindog, 25 February 2013 - 04:09 PM.

[Bad9]

Agreed Vindog. I am a Mcdowell fan fan but holy crap he plays slow!

[monkeynaut]

Is GMac particularly slow?
I didn't remember him being so.  The times I've heard about that, he was in a group with Furyk and Day (notoriously slow players).

[PaulFitz]

Vindog, on 25 February 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

PaulFitz, on 25 February 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

ttm27, on 24 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

Yeah I kinda thought the same thing.  He was all over Webb about slow play.  And Jason Day.

For good reason. Especially Simpson. PGA Tour really needs to do something about pace of play. It trickles down. College golf is absurdly slow right now. Most rounds take 5-5.5 hours, and most tournaments have you playing 36 a day. Sure, the AJGA is trying to help, but the PGA Tour needs to step up and set a precedent  for pace of play.

Why Especially Simpson?  He wasn't even the slowest guy out there.  Why no mention of GMac?   GMac and Day were so slow they were holding Webb up!!

If the Am and College ranks want to mitigate slow play then they can by all rights do so.  If it bothers them, let them govern it.  They need to take the initiative and responsibility themselves.  Why does it fall on the responsibility of the PGA Tour to enforce pace of play in the AM ranks?

I guess what I was trying to say is that if the PGA Tour begins to enforce pace of play then big amateur tournaments and collegiate tournaments will take notice and hopefully follow suit.

[Vindog]

monkeynaut, on 25 February 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

Is GMac particularly slow?
I didn't remember him being so.  The times I've heard about that, he was in a group with Furyk and Day (notoriously slow players).

Yes, he is.

[Stylez]

I find Johnny amusing as hell. Walks and talks like he is swinging to the knees. Funny as hell. He may say some thing you disagree with but better to have what he thinks than to say the politically correct bs you get from most people. He does it to amuse himself and well why not? I rather enjoy it as well.

[Brock Savage]

As a viewer, I find Miller annoying, because he's always trying to predict the outcome of a shot, to show how smart he his, but he always leaves himself an out, so he's never wrong.  "The grass will grab the head of the club and shut the face, and that will make the shot go left of the target.  But who knows, he may hit it within five feet."

If I were one of the announcers on his team, I would find him infuriating, because he hardly ever just asks them to comment on the situation.  Instead, he asks them to comment on what HE thinks about the situation.  "That's a hook lie, isn't it, Rog?"  "He's going to have a lot of trouble getting it close from there, huh, Rog?"

[Vindog]

Brock Savage, on 26 February 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

As a viewer, I find Miller annoying, because he's always trying to predict the outcome of a shot, to show how smart he his, but he always leaves himself an out, so he's never wrong.  "The grass will grab the head of the club and shut the face, and that will make the shot go left of the target.  But who knows, he may hit it within five feet."

If I were one of the announcers on his team, I would find him infuriating, because he hardly ever just asks them to comment on the situation.  Instead, he asks them to comment on what HE thinks about the situation.  "That's a hook lie, isn't it, Rog?"  "He's going to have a lot of trouble getting it close from there, huh, Rog?"

Everyone here does the same thing when we attempt to predict the future.  Or at least the smart ones do.

[sheldonjhacker]

I met Johnny at the U.S. Open at Bethpage at the Lexus hospitality tent.  Saw him another day just walking around and he talked to me for 20 minutes about GPS and other golf apps for the iPhone.  Could not have been a nicer or more humble guy.

[MizzyMan]

shortstop20, on 25 February 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

I like Johnny when he's providing golf commentary.

I hate Johnny when he's providing swing commentary.

This. Some of his swing commentary is laughably wrong. Having been a great player surely helps you have a good understanding of the swing, but you still have to do some homework or at least watch something in slow motion and/or with a critical and objective eye before you can expect the viewers to treat everything you say as gospel.

[george49]

How bout comment winning 1 major? In his time you would have to be asked to be interviewed. Today's players are anointed great or one of the best without merit. Think it was made when McDowell was on screen

[cardoustie]

sheldonjhacker, on 26 February 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

I met Johnny at the U.S. Open at Bethpage at the Lexus hospitality tent.  Saw him another day just walking around and he talked to me for 20 minutes about GPS and other golf apps for the iPhone.  Could not have been a nicer or more humble guy.

Sheldon

I have also spent about 30 mins with him (got a lesson at a tradeshow and we talked the US Open) ... and I guarantee everyone here would love the man if they spent time with him in person.  Friendly, funny, knowledgable.  His delivery can be grating at time but so what.  Would you rather hear McCord's nonsense or Nantz sucking up all the time

Miller was the best player in the world from 73 to 76, he knows of what he speaks.   PS Same reason I like Faldo.  When you've been the best you have simply earned the right to offer opinion and talk about yourself.  
ie Nicklaus is a legend but he can't answer a Question without interjecting himself into it .. still doesn't make me like him any less

Edited by cardoustie, 27 February 2013 - 02:19 PM.

[sheldonjhacker]

cardoustie, on 27 February 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

sheldonjhacker, on 26 February 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

I met Johnny at the U.S. Open at Bethpage at the Lexus hospitality tent.  Saw him another day just walking around and he talked to me for 20 minutes about GPS and other golf apps for the iPhone.  Could not have been a nicer or more humble guy.

Sheldon

I have also spent about 30 mins with him (got a lesson at a tradeshow and we talked the US Open) ... and I guarantee everyone here would love the man if they spent time with him in person.  Friendly, funny, knowledgable.  His delivery can be grating at time but so what.  Would you rather hear McCord's nonsense or Nantz sucking up all the time

Miller was the best player in the world from 73 to 76, he knows of what he speaks.   PS Same reason I like Faldo.  When you've been the best you have simply earned the right to offer opinion and talk about yourself.  
ie Nicklaus is a legend but he can't answer a Question without interjecting himself into it .. still doesn't make me like him any less

Exactly!  For sure most haters would change their tune if they met Johnny.  Johnny is also a great family man and loves to talk about his wife and kids.