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#1 mbradley

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:12 PM

I've heard quite a lot about both the G25 and G20 on this and other forums. Interestingly, there has been some disagreement on how much better the G25 is. My last drivers have been the G20, Superfast 2.0, K15, G15 and now the G25. Swing speed is around 100 mph. Always a stock stiff, but have dabbled with premium shafts.  
The G20 is a great driver. Strong on forgiveness, strong trajectory. Good spin characteristics and good distance,so good that I could just play this driver for the rest of my golfing life. Similar distance to the superfast 2.0, but much more forgiving and consistent.  

I had a $275 store credit and did not really want to move on from the G20, but made the move to the G25. 9.5 Stiff.
Forgiveness
The G25 is noticeably more forgiving than the G20. Sweetspot just seems to be bigger. Very easy to make good contact. Much easier to hit than the K15 and that club was crazy forgiving.

Trajectory
It probably hits higher, but the overall effect is just a flatter ball flight. The ball goes noticeably more downfield than the G20. Very consistent high, flat ball flight.
Distance
No tall tales here! I thought after a few hits that it was maybe 5 yards longer. After some time with the driver. It is, at least, 15 yards longer. My pro says that my distance pickup indicates that my G20 spin was not optimized. That may be true, but I hit my G20 long with a non –ballooning trajectory.

Accuracy
The G20 is accurate, plain and simple. The real difference that I see in the two drivers is that the G25 is much straighter. The straightest driver that I have it. Straighter than the Nike square headed 5900. I will have to play more rounds to determine how workable the G25 is. So far, I would say just made to go real straight. The G20 is probably more workable, but it is not that particularly workable either.

Overall
The G25 seems to be more of a bomber; made for high flat bombs. Noticeably longer, forgiving and straighter. Much better feel. To me, the jump in performance from the G25 to the G20 driver is bigger than the jump from the G15 to the G20. For those who are saying  that the G25 and G20 are the same or close, I just don’t get it. The G25 is just noticebly better in about any way imaginable. Truly a standout product.

Edited by mbradley, 24 February 2013 - 07:13 PM.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:20 PM

Thanks for the write up. Was your G20 also a 9.5 degree head? And were both stiff (non-tour version).
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:24 PM

Nice writeup, much appreciated. I would also say the G25 wins in looks too, but that is subjective to the person holding the club.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:24 PM

View Postlang30, on 24 February 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

Thanks for the write up. Was your G20 also a 9.5 degree head? And were both stiff (non-tour version).
   My G20 was 9.5 degrees. Both drivers are stiff (non-tour) The TFC189D  shaft may have been improved somewhat; little better feel, slightly more stable.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:27 PM

View Postfreddyottawa, on 24 February 2013 - 07:24 PM, said:

Nice writeup, much appreciated. I would also say the G25 wins in looks too, but that is subjective to the person holding the club.
I really loved the unique look of the G20. I thought that the G25 looked a little generic hip mat black, but after hitting it, I just didn't care how it looks!


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:30 PM

I've played a G15 the last 3 seasons and fully expected to play it again this year. I hit the G25 and G20 yesterday against my G15. The G25 outperformed both in carry distance and feel. I didn't think anything could be more forgiving than the G15 but the G25 was more forgiving. Felt great. I hit the TFC tour stiff and thought it felt very nice also even compared to my Oban Devotion.



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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:29 PM

View Postmbradley, on 24 February 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

View Postfreddyottawa, on 24 February 2013 - 07:24 PM, said:

Nice writeup, much appreciated. I would also say the G25 wins in looks too, but that is subjective to the person holding the club.
I really loved the unique look of the G20. I thought that the G25 looked a little generic hip mat black, but after hitting it, I just didn't care how it looks!

Oh don't get me wrong, the G20 didn't look bad by any means, i'm just a fan of the matte black.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:36 PM

OP what is your hdcp? Thanks

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:38 PM

View Postmoonshine, on 24 February 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

OP what is your hdcp? Thanks
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:41 PM

View Postmbradley, on 24 February 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

I've heard quite a lot about both the G25 and G20 on this and other forums. Interestingly, there has been some disagreement on how much better the G25 is. My last drivers have been the G20, Superfast 2.0, K15, G15 and now the G25. Swing speed is around 100 mph. Always a stock stiff, but have dabbled with premium shafts.  
The G20 is a great driver. Strong on forgiveness, strong trajectory. Good spin characteristics and good distance,so good that I could just play this driver for the rest of my golfing life. Similar distance to the superfast 2.0, but much more forgiving and consistent.  

I had a $275 store credit and did not really want to move on from the G20, but made the move to the G25. 9.5 Stiff.
Forgiveness
The G25 is noticeably more forgiving than the G20. Sweetspot just seems to be bigger. Very easy to make good contact. Much easier to hit than the K15 and that club was crazy forgiving.

Trajectory
It probably hits higher, but the overall effect is just a flatter ball flight. The ball goes noticeably more downfield than the G20. Very consistent high, flat ball flight.
Distance
No tall tales here! I thought after a few hits that it was maybe 5 yards longer. After some time with the driver. It is, at least, 15 yards longer. My pro says that my distance pickup indicates that my G20 spin was not optimized. That may be true, but I hit my G20 long with a non –ballooning trajectory.

Accuracy
The G20 is accurate, plain and simple. The real difference that I see in the two drivers is that the G25 is much straighter. The straightest driver that I have it. Straighter than the Nike square headed 5900. I will have to play more rounds to determine how workable the G25 is. So far, I would say just made to go real straight. The G20 is probably more workable, but it is not that particularly workable either.

Overall
The G25 seems to be more of a bomber; made for high flat bombs. Noticeably longer, forgiving and straighter. Much better feel. To me, the jump in performance from the G25 to the G20 driver is bigger than the jump from the G15 to the G20. For those who are saying  that the G25 and G20 are the same or close, I just don’t get it. The G25 is just noticebly better in about any way imaginable. Truly a standout product.
    

Did i really just read ----- "Much easier to hit than the k15" and "straighter than the Nike square headed 5900".

I currently game the k15 and still own a 5900. If this is true I WILL have the g25 in my bag.


Edited by Cwing, 24 February 2013 - 07:44 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:57 PM

View PostCwing, on 24 February 2013 - 07:41 PM, said:

View Postmbradley, on 24 February 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

I've heard quite a lot about both the G25 and G20 on this and other forums. Interestingly, there has been some disagreement on how much better the G25 is. My last drivers have been the G20, Superfast 2.0, K15, G15 and now the G25. Swing speed is around 100 mph. Always a stock stiff, but have dabbled with premium shafts.  
The G20 is a great driver. Strong on forgiveness, strong trajectory. Good spin characteristics and good distance,so good that I could just play this driver for the rest of my golfing life. Similar distance to the superfast 2.0, but much more forgiving and consistent.  

I had a $275 store credit and did not really want to move on from the G20, but made the move to the G25. 9.5 Stiff.
Forgiveness
The G25 is noticeably more forgiving than the G20. Sweetspot just seems to be bigger. Very easy to make good contact. Much easier to hit than the K15 and that club was crazy forgiving.

Trajectory
It probably hits higher, but the overall effect is just a flatter ball flight. The ball goes noticeably more downfield than the G20. Very consistent high, flat ball flight.
Distance
No tall tales here! I thought after a few hits that it was maybe 5 yards longer. After some time with the driver. It is, at least, 15 yards longer. My pro says that my distance pickup indicates that my G20 spin was not optimized. That may be true, but I hit my G20 long with a non –ballooning trajectory.

Accuracy
The G20 is accurate, plain and simple. The real difference that I see in the two drivers is that the G25 is much straighter. The straightest driver that I have it. Straighter than the Nike square headed 5900. I will have to play more rounds to determine how workable the G25 is. So far, I would say just made to go real straight. The G20 is probably more workable, but it is not that particularly workable either.

Overall
The G25 seems to be more of a bomber; made for high flat bombs. Noticeably longer, forgiving and straighter. Much better feel. To me, the jump in performance from the G25 to the G20 driver is bigger than the jump from the G15 to the G20. For those who are saying  that the G25 and G20 are the same or close, I just don't get it. The G25 is just noticebly better in about any way imaginable. Truly a standout product.


Did i really just read ----- "Much easier to hit than the k15" and "straighter than the Nike square headed 5900".

I currently game the k15 and still own a 5900. If this is true I WILL have the g25 in my bag.
G25 vs K15 - the G25 is straighter. Yes the K15 guards the right side of the fairway better, really bad swings can have you out to the left. The G25 is just dead neutral, but dead straight..Overall forgiveness is just greater than the K15. The K15 was in the bag for 2 whole years, The G25 is just better,  much greater  length.  G25 vs 5900- The 5900 was stupid straight, but stupid short. G25 has to be right there with the K15, Cally FTI,FTIQ and the 5900 in terms of straightness, but how much longer is it? No comparison!

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:02 PM

Great write and done the proper way...............apples to apples with everything the same. You have made one strong statement for the G25 being the best driver there is if it is that much better than the G20. Looks like my Rapture V2 will have to reprove itself this year to stay in the bag.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:22 PM

View PostGbyeball, on 24 February 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

Great write and done the proper way...............apples to apples with everything the same. You have made one strong statement for the G25 being the best driver there is if it is that much better than the G20. Looks like my Rapture V2 will have to reprove itself this year to stay in the bag.
The G20 gets nothing but respect from me. Frankly. I'm surprised that Ping could make such an improvement in that driver. Nowadays, Everyone makes a "good" driver. It is getting harder to stand out.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:26 PM

View Postmbradley, on 24 February 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostGbyeball, on 24 February 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

Great write and done the proper way...............apples to apples with everything the same. You have made one strong statement for the G25 being the best driver there is if it is that much better than the G20. Looks like my Rapture V2 will have to reprove itself this year to stay in the bag.
The G20 gets nothing but respect from me. Frankly. I'm surprised that Ping could make such an improvement in that driver. Nowadays, Everyone makes a "good" driver. It is getting harder to stand out.

I completely agree, nobody makes junk, it is all good stuff now a days. It is just a matter of finding the head and shaft that work best for your swing.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:42 PM

mbradley,
What was the loft of your K15?  I currently have a 10.5 K15 and am torn between the 9.5 or 10.5 G25.  Kinda like the idea of the 9.5 adjusted up to 10, which would slightly close the face, compared to 10.5 adjusted down, which would slightly open the face.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:23 PM

After my ping fitting according to my swing type,my dispersion was much tighter with the G25 and better distance compared to the other recent models of the ping drivers.
My drives were long and strait ,just what I was looking for so I bought the driver and 3 wood with the Blur red 005 stiff shaft.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:24 PM

View PostMattMo, on 24 February 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:

mbradley,
What was the loft of your K15?  I currently have a 10.5 K15 and am torn between the 9.5 or 10.5 G25.  Kinda like the idea of the 9.5 adjusted up to 10, which would slightly close the face, compared to 10.5 adjusted down, which would slightly open the face.
I moved from a 10.5 K15 to a 9.5 G20 to a 9.5 G25 all stock stiff. The G20 still went high but was lower than the K15 and had a much flatter ball flight. Picked up about 12 yds on average. I'm not big on launch monitors, but  the K15 was clearly not spinning at an optimal rate. The G25 is slightly higher than the G20, but the ball flight is even flatter.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:36 PM

View Postmbradley, on 24 February 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

View PostCwing, on 24 February 2013 - 07:41 PM, said:

View Postmbradley, on 24 February 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

I've heard quite a lot about both the G25 and G20 on this and other forums. Interestingly, there has been some disagreement on how much better the G25 is. My last drivers have been the G20, Superfast 2.0, K15, G15 and now the G25. Swing speed is around 100 mph. Always a stock stiff, but have dabbled with premium shafts.  
The G20 is a great driver. Strong on forgiveness, strong trajectory. Good spin characteristics and good distance,so good that I could just play this driver for the rest of my golfing life. Similar distance to the superfast 2.0, but much more forgiving and consistent.  

I had a $275 store credit and did not really want to move on from the G20, but made the move to the G25. 9.5 Stiff.
Forgiveness
The G25 is noticeably more forgiving than the G20. Sweetspot just seems to be bigger. Very easy to make good contact. Much easier to hit than the K15 and that club was crazy forgiving.

Trajectory
It probably hits higher, but the overall effect is just a flatter ball flight. The ball goes noticeably more downfield than the G20. Very consistent high, flat ball flight.
Distance
No tall tales here! I thought after a few hits that it was maybe 5 yards longer. After some time with the driver. It is, at least, 15 yards longer. My pro says that my distance pickup indicates that my G20 spin was not optimized. That may be true, but I hit my G20 long with a non –ballooning trajectory.

Accuracy
The G20 is accurate, plain and simple. The real difference that I see in the two drivers is that the G25 is much straighter. The straightest driver that I have it. Straighter than the Nike square headed 5900. I will have to play more rounds to determine how workable the G25 is. So far, I would say just made to go real straight. The G20 is probably more workable, but it is not that particularly workable either.

Overall
The G25 seems to be more of a bomber; made for high flat bombs. Noticeably longer, forgiving and straighter. Much better feel. To me, the jump in performance from the G25 to the G20 driver is bigger than the jump from the G15 to the G20. For those who are saying  that the G25 and G20 are the same or close, I just don't get it. The G25 is just noticebly better in about any way imaginable. Truly a standout product.
    

Did i really just read ----- "Much easier to hit than the k15" and "straighter than the Nike square headed 5900".

I currently game the k15 and still own a 5900. If this is true I WILL have the g25 in my bag.
G25 vs K15 - the G25 is straighter. Yes the K15 guards the right side of the fairway better, really bad swings can have you out to the left. The G25 is just dead neutral, but dead straight..Overall forgiveness is just greater than the K15. The K15 was in the bag for 2 whole years, The G25 is just better,  much greater  length.  G25 vs 5900- The 5900 was stupid straight, but stupid short. G25 has to be right there with the K15, Cally FTI,FTIQ and the 5900 in terms of straightness, but how much longer is it? No comparison!

I can't wait to demo this driver.

Edited by Cwing, 24 February 2013 - 09:39 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:57 PM

View Postmbradley, on 24 February 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

I've heard quite a lot about both the G25 and G20 on this and other forums. Interestingly, there has been some disagreement on how much better the G25 is. My last drivers have been the G20, Superfast 2.0, K15, G15 and now the G25. Swing speed is around 100 mph. Always a stock stiff, but have dabbled with premium shafts.  
The G20 is a great driver. Strong on forgiveness, strong trajectory. Good spin characteristics and good distance,so good that I could just play this driver for the rest of my golfing life. Similar distance to the superfast 2.0, but much more forgiving and consistent.  

I had a $275 store credit and did not really want to move on from the G20, but made the move to the G25. 9.5 Stiff.
Forgiveness
The G25 is noticeably more forgiving than the G20. Sweetspot just seems to be bigger. Very easy to make good contact. Much easier to hit than the K15 and that club was crazy forgiving.

Trajectory
It probably hits higher, but the overall effect is just a flatter ball flight. The ball goes noticeably more downfield than the G20. Very consistent high, flat ball flight.
Distance
No tall tales here! I thought after a few hits that it was maybe 5 yards longer. After some time with the driver. It is, at least, 15 yards longer. My pro says that my distance pickup indicates that my G20 spin was not optimized. That may be true, but I hit my G20 long with a non –ballooning trajectory.

Accuracy
The G20 is accurate, plain and simple. The real difference that I see in the two drivers is that the G25 is much straighter. The straightest driver that I have it. Straighter than the Nike square headed 5900. I will have to play more rounds to determine how workable the G25 is. So far, I would say just made to go real straight. The G20 is probably more workable, but it is not that particularly workable either.

Overall
The G25 seems to be more of a bomber; made for high flat bombs. Noticeably longer, forgiving and straighter. Much better feel. To me, the jump in performance from the G25 to the G20 driver is bigger than the jump from the G15 to the G20. For those who are saying  that the G25 and G20 are the same or close, I just don’t get it. The G25 is just noticebly better in about any way imaginable. Truly a standout product.


There's one other comparison that I was hoping you would list. Sound. Does the G25 sound louder or clangier? Love my G20, but just can't give up my j40 445 for sound and feel.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:05 AM

View Post73monte, on 24 February 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

View Postmbradley, on 24 February 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

I've heard quite a lot about both the G25 and G20 on this and other forums. Interestingly, there has been some disagreement on how much better the G25 is. My last drivers have been the G20, Superfast 2.0, K15, G15 and now the G25. Swing speed is around 100 mph. Always a stock stiff, but have dabbled with premium shafts.  
The G20 is a great driver. Strong on forgiveness, strong trajectory. Good spin characteristics and good distance,so good that I could just play this driver for the rest of my golfing life. Similar distance to the superfast 2.0, but much more forgiving and consistent.  

I had a $275 store credit and did not really want to move on from the G20, but made the move to the G25. 9.5 Stiff.
Forgiveness
The G25 is noticeably more forgiving than the G20. Sweetspot just seems to be bigger. Very easy to make good contact. Much easier to hit than the K15 and that club was crazy forgiving.

Trajectory
It probably hits higher, but the overall effect is just a flatter ball flight. The ball goes noticeably more downfield than the G20. Very consistent high, flat ball flight.
Distance
No tall tales here! I thought after a few hits that it was maybe 5 yards longer. After some time with the driver. It is, at least, 15 yards longer. My pro says that my distance pickup indicates that my G20 spin was not optimized. That may be true, but I hit my G20 long with a non –ballooning trajectory.

Accuracy
The G20 is accurate, plain and simple. The real difference that I see in the two drivers is that the G25 is much straighter. The straightest driver that I have it. Straighter than the Nike square headed 5900. I will have to play more rounds to determine how workable the G25 is. So far, I would say just made to go real straight. The G20 is probably more workable, but it is not that particularly workable either.

Overall
The G25 seems to be more of a bomber; made for high flat bombs. Noticeably longer, forgiving and straighter. Much better feel. To me, the jump in performance from the G25 to the G20 driver is bigger than the jump from the G15 to the G20. For those who are saying  that the G25 and G20 are the same or close, I just don’t get it. The G25 is just noticebly better in about any way imaginable. Truly a standout product.


There's one other comparison that I was hoping you would list. Sound. Does the G25 sound louder or clangier? Love my G20, but just can't give up my j40 445 for sound and feel.
Sound wouldn't be an issue for me unless it really was loud. Didn't notice anything out of the norm.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:12 AM

The G20 was my favorite driver I have ever owned or hit. I went into hitting the G25 thinking it would be an improvement and came away unimpressed. I didnt like the look of it in hand as much as in photos. The biggest thing I liked about the G20 was the sound and feel of the ball coming off of the face. When I hit the G25, it sounds alot more tinny and not as full sounding as the G20 (if that makes any sense) and felt as such as well. I was extremely disappointed because I really thought I would be retiring the G20 for the G25. Turns out, I decided to go XHot because it gave me exactly what I had in the G20 with some added yardage and adjustability but that is for a different thread.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:52 AM

I love my G15, the G20 is fine but like the G15 better. 5900 great driver for me. Sounds like I need to try the G25. From what I've read people that like the G15 likes the G25 and the ones that like the G20 don't like G25.  All great drivers just have to find the one for you.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:48 AM

View PostDevRickus, on 25 February 2013 - 08:12 AM, said:

The G20 was my favorite driver I have ever owned or hit. I went into hitting the G25 thinking it would be an improvement and came away unimpressed. I didnt like the look of it in hand as much as in photos. The biggest thing I liked about the G20 was the sound and feel of the ball coming off of the face. When I hit the G25, it sounds alot more tinny and not as full sounding as the G20 (if that makes any sense) and felt as such as well. I was extremely disappointed because I really thought I would be retiring the G20 for the G25. Turns out, I decided to go XHot because it gave me exactly what I had in the G20 with some added yardage and adjustability but that is for a different thread.

Makes perfect sense to me.  I was watching the Accenture Match Play on Sunday and really noticed the loud tinny sound Mahan's G25 was making.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:58 AM

Damn frustrating! I think I must be the only person on the planet that can't keep the G25 straight! Lol.

Its prompted me to call my pro for a video lesson next week to have a look to see if there are any generic swing problems. I'm crushing my irons with a lovely draw, but all I can get with the G25 9.5 is mega high spinny slices. I thought the G25 sat a little open actually, but I obviously have some swing faults with my Driver thats compounding the problem with the G25. So will have my pro look at my swing on vid next week for a diagnosis and fix, then try the G25 again.

Very disappointing so far, but I know for sure its probably the Indian and not the arrow atm.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:07 PM

View Postjay65, on 25 February 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

Damn frustrating! I think I must be the only person on the planet that can't keep the G25 straight! Lol.

Its prompted me to call my pro for a video lesson next week to have a look to see if there are any generic swing problems. I'm crushing my irons with a lovely draw, but all I can get with the G25 9.5 is mega high spinny slices. I thought the G25 sat a little open actually, but I obviously have some swing faults with my Driver thats compounding the problem with the G25. So will have my pro look at my swing on vid next week for a diagnosis and fix, then try the G25 again.

Very disappointing so far, but I know for sure its probably the Indian and not the arrow atm.

Ha, yes it's funny when you own the straightest driver ever and can't hit it straight.  Arggghh.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:14 PM

View PostDevRickus, on 25 February 2013 - 08:12 AM, said:

The G20 was my favorite driver I have ever owned or hit. I went into hitting the G25 thinking it would be an improvement and came away unimpressed. I didnt like the look of it in hand as much as in photos. The biggest thing I liked about the G20 was the sound and feel of the ball coming off of the face. When I hit the G25, it sounds alot more tinny and not as full sounding as the G20 (if that makes any sense) and felt as such as well. I was extremely disappointed because I really thought I would be retiring the G20 for the G25. Turns out, I decided to go XHot because it gave me exactly what I had in the G20 with some added yardage and adjustability but that is for a different thread.

I felt the same as you. I haven't had a PING driver in the bag for a long time but I did like the sound and feel of the G20. I saw the G25 and thought either it or the 913D3 might kick the R11S out of the bag this year. I left Golfsmith feeling very unimpressed with almost every new model out this year except for the 913D3 (already knew I liked that one anyway) and surprisingly the Callaway X-Hot. The feel seemed similar to the i20 which to me felt too hollow at impact. I think the only driver this year that has potential to kick the current set-up out of the bag would be the D3.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:54 PM

View PostFalang_Golfer, on 25 February 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

View Postjay65, on 25 February 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

Damn frustrating! I think I must be the only person on the planet that can't keep the G25 straight! Lol.

Its prompted me to call my pro for a video lesson next week to have a look to see if there are any generic swing problems. I'm crushing my irons with a lovely draw, but all I can get with the G25 9.5 is mega high spinny slices. I thought the G25 sat a little open actually, but I obviously have some swing faults with my Driver thats compounding the problem with the G25. So will have my pro look at my swing on vid next week for a diagnosis and fix, then try the G25 again.

Very disappointing so far, but I know for sure its probably the Indian and not the arrow atm.

Ha, yes it's funny when you own the straightest driver ever and can't hit it straight.  Arggghh.

Haha. Yeah its pretty demoralizing, but some things are so bad sometimes they become almost funny.

On a slightly more positive note, I'm sure my pro will pick up on a couple of issues with my swing, and I'm sure I'll have it sorted by the Summer.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

View PostFalang_Golfer, on 25 February 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

View Postjay65, on 25 February 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

Damn frustrating! I think I must be the only person on the planet that can't keep the G25 straight! Lol.

Its prompted me to call my pro for a video lesson next week to have a look to see if there are any generic swing problems. I'm crushing my irons with a lovely draw, but all I can get with the G25 9.5 is mega high spinny slices. I thought the G25 sat a little open actually, but I obviously have some swing faults with my Driver thats compounding the problem with the G25. So will have my pro look at my swing on vid next week for a diagnosis and fix, then try the G25 again.

Very disappointing so far, but I know for sure its probably the Indian and not the arrow atm.

Ha, yes it's funny when you own the straightest driver ever and can't hit it straight.  Arggghh.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:26 PM

View Postjay65, on 25 February 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

Damn frustrating! I think I must be the only person on the planet that can't keep the G25 straight! Lol.

Its prompted me to call my pro for a video lesson next week to have a look to see if there are any generic swing problems. I'm crushing my irons with a lovely draw, but all I can get with the G25 9.5 is mega high spinny slices. I thought the G25 sat a little open actually, but I obviously have some swing faults with my Driver thats compounding the problem with the G25. So will have my pro look at my swing on vid next week for a diagnosis and fix, then try the G25 again.

Very disappointing so far, but I know for sure its probably the Indian and not the arrow atm.

I know nothing about your swing, but it is possible that the shaft is too softy in the tip section for you. That can definitely produce high and spinny. Try swinging it at 75% and see if it straightens out. If it does, shaft is probably the culprit. If not, tyou may just be having a hard time squaring the head. It has a pretty damn big footprint! If 75% doesn't work go harder with a full release and see what happens

Edited by tomg1969, 25 February 2013 - 01:27 PM.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:19 PM

View Posttomg1969, on 25 February 2013 - 01:26 PM, said:

View Postjay65, on 25 February 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

Damn frustrating! I think I must be the only person on the planet that can't keep the G25 straight! Lol.

Its prompted me to call my pro for a video lesson next week to have a look to see if there are any generic swing problems. I'm crushing my irons with a lovely draw, but all I can get with the G25 9.5 is mega high spinny slices. I thought the G25 sat a little open actually, but I obviously have some swing faults with my Driver thats compounding the problem with the G25. So will have my pro look at my swing on vid next week for a diagnosis and fix, then try the G25 again.

Very disappointing so far, but I know for sure its probably the Indian and not the arrow atm.

I know nothing about your swing, but it is possible that the shaft is too softy in the tip section for you. That can definitely produce high and spinny. Try swinging it at 75% and see if it straightens out. If it does, shaft is probably the culprit. If not, tyou may just be having a hard time squaring the head. It has a pretty damn big footprint! If 75% doesn't work go harder with a full release and see what happens

Ah, no ya talking. I did a little amateur vid yesterday to take a look at my swing with a Driver, and although my I'm pretty happy where my downswing is, nicely from the inside, but even on the cam from my laptop, I could see I'm not fully releasing and swinging enough to the right (I'm a lefty).

As I said, I've booked a video lesson with my pro to get confirmation of this, and I'll be seeing him next Thursday, so as soon as we've sorted this out, I'll give the G25 another go.

Just as an afterthought, I did think the standard TFC189 shaft (The only shaft they had at the Demo Day, which I thought was quite poor!) was a bit soft at the tip, which does make things worse I find.  I also hit the G25 Fairways and Hybrids, and hit them perfect, absolutely nailed them, so its obvious to me its not just the shaft, but probably a combo of me and the shaft thats the problem. But I'm onto it!!!


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