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[SurfinTurf]

Thrillhouse, on 10 March 2013 - 03:03 AM, said:

SurfinTurf, on 10 March 2013 - 02:55 AM, said:

Thrillhouse, on 10 March 2013 - 02:26 AM, said:

All I know is that if I find out that drew Barrymore isn't really using cover girl mascara then I'll be purchasing my cosmetics elsewhere from this point forward!

Now how the hell do you expect anyone to reply to this?!! HaHa!  Cant we talk about MANly Sh*t like the hot new TM yellow bucket hats....

Those yellow bucket hats are ultra manly.

Hang on there!  They match my shoes! What up?  Hater  

[cxx]

JBuer, on 09 March 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

This may have already been stated, but unless you are buying your clubs only because a certain pro has them the who the hell cares about a commercial?  It's a commercial/marketing it's all slighted truth. Always has been if you take it at face value you're an idiot.

Advertising like this works, so I guess most people are idiots.

[tmfool]

Thrillhouse, on 10 March 2013 - 03:03 AM, said:

SurfinTurf, on 10 March 2013 - 02:55 AM, said:

Thrillhouse, on 10 March 2013 - 02:26 AM, said:

All I know is that if I find out that drew Barrymore isn't really using cover girl mascara then I'll be purchasing my cosmetics elsewhere from this point forward!

Now how the hell do you expect anyone to reply to this?!! HaHa!  Cant we talk about MANly Sh*t like the hot new TM yellow bucket hats....

Those yellow bucket hats are ultra manly.

better get your yellow bucket hat - SOON - sure to be backordered by April
or "recalled"?

[JBuer]

cxx, on 10 March 2013 - 08:22 AM, said:

JBuer, on 09 March 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

This may have already been stated, but unless you are buying your clubs only because a certain pro has them the who the hell cares about a commercial?  It's a commercial/marketing it's all slighted truth. Always has been if you take it at face value you're an idiot.

Advertising like this works, so I guess most people are idiots.

I would agree. Especially those who debate a manufacturers use of marketing. Its like saying Jared lost all the weight just from eating subway. Then some fat guy complaining cause he goes to subway everyday and hasn't lost weight. This type of marketing has been around forever and will never change because .....well most people are idiots.

[enelrojo]

JBuer, on 10 March 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

cxx, on 10 March 2013 - 08:22 AM, said:

JBuer, on 09 March 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

This may have already been stated, but unless you are buying your clubs only because a certain pro has them the who the hell cares about a commercial?  It's a commercial/marketing it's all slighted truth. Always has been if you take it at face value you're an idiot.

Advertising like this works, so I guess most people are idiots.

I would agree. Especially those who debate a manufacturers use of marketing. Its like saying Jared lost all the weight just from eating subway. Then some fat guy complaining cause he goes to subway everyday and hasn't lost weight. This type of marketing has been around forever and will never change because .....well most people are idiots.

Your point on "marketing" may have some validity, but Jared and Subway do not fit your argument. Jared Fogel ate nothing but subway sandwiches for one year, and walked everyday for a year and lost the weight. He was not employed by Subway at the time. Subway discovered him from a magazine article, and had his story fully vetted prior to using him in an ad campaign. Jared and his story are the real deal.

[Joey76]

Its seems to be the average amatuers they appeal to and it works.

My friend just came back from the states with guess what. brand new TM gear... the whole lot.

he's a 16 HCP and I told him to hit every irons and driver you had the time for.


Turns out the shop assistat said "these are the clubs for you" and he doesnt know any better... he is happy but doubt whehter he really has the feel to know what is better.


their advertising is cheesy and it works.

if there are guys who are great players who like the TM thats fine too.... play what you like to play but I think they really dominate the amatuer market who dont know any better

Edited by Joey76, 11 March 2013 - 04:51 AM.

[hardten]

gunmetal, on 24 February 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

Does it annoy anyone else that these clowns go on commercial explaining how they play the newest product from the company they represent when in fact they don't?  Last year it was Justin Rose during the week of Doral proclaiming how he played a driver "longer than R11", when in fact he won the freaking tournament with his R11 non S version.  This year it's Jason Day saying how he plays a distance iron and after a 200+ yard 7 iron "yeah I put it in the bag".  The whole week he's been playing the TP MC irons.  I get it, I really do.  I know it's all about benjamins, but dear heavens couldn't they just say how great the irons are and leave it at that?  Why do they have to something that really isn't true?

Hey after playing since 1975, owning 30+ sets of irons and who knows how many drivers and FWDs I eat up some of the #ull#hit also. Never buy based on it but sure it gets it's purpose of my attention. Ultimately I buy on MY experience not some fortunately talented enough guy who makes fame and fortune from the game. I would be lying if I said they didn't at least get my attention. They sell hope.

[JBuer]

enelrojo, on 11 March 2013 - 02:01 AM, said:

JBuer, on 10 March 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

cxx, on 10 March 2013 - 08:22 AM, said:

JBuer, on 09 March 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

This may have already been stated, but unless you are buying your clubs only because a certain pro has them the who the hell cares about a commercial?  It's a commercial/marketing it's all slighted truth. Always has been if you take it at face value you're an idiot.

Advertising like this works, so I guess most people are idiots.

I would agree. Especially those who debate a manufacturers use of marketing. Its like saying Jared lost all the weight just from eating subway. Then some fat guy complaining cause he goes to subway everyday and hasn't lost weight. This type of marketing has been around forever and will never change because .....well most people are idiots.

Your point on "marketing" may have some validity, but Jared and Subway do not fit your argument. Jared Fogel ate nothing but subway sandwiches for one year, and walked everyday for a year and lost the weight. He was not employed by Subway at the time. Subway discovered him from a magazine article, and had his story fully vetted prior to using him in an ad campaign. Jared and his story are the real deal.

Ok where in the commercials (when Jared worked for subway) did it talk about him walking and exercising? It was marketed in the view of all he did was eat sandwiches. My point is anyone who believed that aspect of the WHOLE story is an idiot. Not calling Jared fake just that all companies spin, manipulate, exaggerate and never tell the WHOLE truth.

[Sawgrass]

enelrojo, on 11 March 2013 - 02:01 AM, said:

JBuer, on 10 March 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

cxx, on 10 March 2013 - 08:22 AM, said:

JBuer, on 09 March 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

This may have already been stated, but unless you are buying your clubs only because a certain pro has them the who the hell cares about a commercial?  It's a commercial/marketing it's all slighted truth. Always has been if you take it at face value you're an idiot.

Advertising like this works, so I guess most people are idiots.

I would agree. Especially those who debate a manufacturers use of marketing. Its like saying Jared lost all the weight just from eating subway. Then some fat guy complaining cause he goes to subway everyday and hasn't lost weight. This type of marketing has been around forever and will never change because .....well most people are idiots.

Your point on "marketing" may have some validity, but Jared and Subway do not fit your argument. Jared Fogel ate nothing but subway sandwiches for one year, and walked everyday for a year and lost the weight. He was not employed by Subway at the time. Subway discovered him from a magazine article, and had his story fully vetted prior to using him in an ad campaign. Jared and his story are the real deal.

They never told you that Jared only ate tour-issue footlongs.  Very misleading.  I won't be "bagging" them.

[Sawgrass]

BTW, I'm impressed with the latest "-ier" commercials.  You know, with Sean O'Hair refusing to say, "Hair-ier."  The idea is fun, and TM's group of pros does an excellent job of acting, given their real job is hitting a ball 320 yards.

I also like the Nike driver commercial with people saying they're sorry to the group ahead.

Having a sense of humor, both on the advertiser's part and on ours, can be helpful in getting through the day.

[tdelam]

Sawgrass, on 11 March 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

BTW, I'm impressed with the latest "-ier" commercials.  You know, with Sean O'Hair refusing to say, "Hair-ier."  The idea is fun, and TM's group of pros does an excellent job of acting, given their real job is hitting a ball 320 yards.

I also like the Nike driver commercial with people saying they're sorry to the group ahead.

Having a sense of humor, both on the advertiser's part and on ours, can be helpful in getting through the day.

Agreed, this thread is comical in itself. I felt like I just finished watching an episode of "The View"

[station2station]

Sawgrass, on 11 March 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

BTW, I'm impressed with the latest "-ier" commercials.  You know, with Sean O'Hair refusing to say, "Hair-ier."  The idea is fun, and TM's group of pros does an excellent job of acting, given their real job is hitting a ball 320 yards.

I also like the Nike driver commercial with people saying they're sorry to the group ahead.

Having a sense of humor, both on the advertiser's part and on ours, can be helpful in getting through the day.

impressed?  It's not bad but i wouldn't say it impresses me.

[Sawgrass]

station2station, on 11 March 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

Sawgrass, on 11 March 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

BTW, I'm impressed with the latest "-ier" commercials.  You know, with Sean O'Hair refusing to say, "Hair-ier."  The idea is fun, and TM's group of pros does an excellent job of acting, given their real job is hitting a ball 320 yards.

I also like the Nike driver commercial with people saying they're sorry to the group ahead.

Having a sense of humor, both on the advertiser's part and on ours, can be helpful in getting through the day.

impressed?  It's not bad but i wouldn't say it impresses me.

Ever try to write a commercial?  It's not easy to write a good one.

For like a hundred years, golf club manufacturers have had one goal:  to impress prospective customers with their offering in an inspirational, memorable way.  Everybody has almost always been about longer and straighter.  Time after time after time.  (Bow ring.)   Doing that in a clever new way that sticks is really hard to pull off.

TaylorMade has created a fun campaign that's memorable (to me).  It's got a "young" vibe.  It's got personable young guns.  And it's, may I say, ballzier than many other competing campaigns.

I know this is supposed to be a "hate TM" thread, but I've instead got to tip my cap to them.  I "get" that most people hate advertising.  But I'm not one of them.  To me it provides an interesting insight into our culture, and sometimes gives me a kick, like any good art might.

[enelrojo]

Sawgrass, on 11 March 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

station2station, on 11 March 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

Sawgrass, on 11 March 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

BTW, I'm impressed with the latest "-ier" commercials.  You know, with Sean O'Hair refusing to say, "Hair-ier."  The idea is fun, and TM's group of pros does an excellent job of acting, given their real job is hitting a ball 320 yards.

I also like the Nike driver commercial with people saying they're sorry to the group ahead.

Having a sense of humor, both on the advertiser's part and on ours, can be helpful in getting through the day.

impressed?  It's not bad but i wouldn't say it impresses me.

Ever try to write a commercial?  It's not easy to write a good one.

For like a hundred years, golf club manufacturers have had one goal:  to impress prospective customers with their offering in an inspirational, memorable way.  Everybody has almost always been about longer and straighter.  Time after time after time.  (Bow ring.)   Doing that in a clever new way that sticks is really hard to pull off.

TaylorMade has created a fun campaign that's memorable (to me).  It's got a "young" vibe.  It's got personable young guns.  And it's, may I say, ballzier than many other competing campaigns.

I know this is supposed to be a "hate TM" thread, but I've instead got to tip my cap to them.  I "get" that most people hate advertising.  But I'm not one of them.  To me it provides an interesting insight into our culture, and sometimes gives me a kick, like any good art might.

Agree.

[golfgolf]

JBuer, on 11 March 2013 - 07:38 AM, said:

Ok where in the commercials (when Jared worked for subway) did it talk about him walking and exercising? It was marketed in the view of all he did was eat sandwiches. My point is anyone who believed that aspect of the WHOLE story is an idiot. Not calling Jared fake just that all companies spin, manipulate, exaggerate and never tell the WHOLE truth.

But at least Jared did eat the same exact subs that anyone else could go into any Subway and buy.
The problem would have been if they had said Jared lost all his weight by eating Subway subs, where in reality he ate special Jared-issue Subway subs that only he could get and that had half the calories of regular Subway subs.

[drbonesvt]

golfgolf, on 12 March 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

JBuer, on 11 March 2013 - 07:38 AM, said:

Ok where in the commercials (when Jared worked for subway) did it talk about him walking and exercising? It was marketed in the view of all he did was eat sandwiches. My point is anyone who believed that aspect of the WHOLE story is an idiot. Not calling Jared fake just that all companies spin, manipulate, exaggerate and never tell the WHOLE truth.

But at least Jared did eat the same exact subs that anyone else could go into any Subway and buy.
The problem would have been if they had said Jared lost all his weight by eating Subway subs, where in reality he ate special Jared-issue Subway subs that only he could get and that had half the calories of regular Subway subs.

This is a funny but accurate comparison.

Good Read

[JBuer]

golfgolf, on 12 March 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

JBuer, on 11 March 2013 - 07:38 AM, said:

Ok where in the commercials (when Jared worked for subway) did it talk about him walking and exercising? It was marketed in the view of all he did was eat sandwiches. My point is anyone who believed that aspect of the WHOLE story is an idiot. Not calling Jared fake just that all companies spin, manipulate, exaggerate and never tell the WHOLE truth.

But at least Jared did eat the same exact subs that anyone else could go into any Subway and buy.
The problem would have been if they had said Jared lost all his weight by eating Subway subs, where in reality he ate special Jared-issue Subway subs that only he could get and that had half the calories of regular Subway subs.

I see your point and it makes sense. I guess my thing is that all companies spin, twist, exaggerate and provide half truths. If they didn't there wouldn't be much to distance themselves from the competition.

[golfgolf]

The USGA and R&A could make things really interesting if they passed a rule that required players to only play equipment that was available at retail.

They have both stated that they are opposed to bifurcation of the rules, and want pros and amateurs to play by the same set.
And as a result, we (the 99.99% of golfers who are not professionals) will all eventually have to abide by the new groove rules.

It is only logical that the pros should also have to play the same equipment that we (the amateurs) play.

Adjusting lies, lofts, weight, lead tape, hot melt - stuff like that would be ok since it is relatively easy for anyone to do the same, and those changes are all made to a pre-existing club model.  

But things like 'tour only' driver heads would no longer be allowed.

[gunmetal]

craniac76, on 10 March 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

The OP is like watching a commercial for the first time.  

If Tiger Woods drives a Buick in a commercial, it doesn't mean Tiger drives a Buick in real life.  It's just a commercial.  They just got paid to represent a product.

The OP (me) is simply pointing out that there is a big difference between paid spokespeople endorsing a product and paid spokespeople claiming that they use a product that they don't.  It's misleading at best.

That's right...I just went 3rd person, baby.

PS - TM's lost their cleverness, too.  The #IER hats are awful.

[TheMoneyShot]

gunmetal, on 17 March 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

craniac76, on 10 March 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

The OP is like watching a commercial for the first time.  

If Tiger Woods drives a Buick in a commercial, it doesn't mean Tiger drives a Buick in real life.  It's just a commercial.  They just got paid to represent a product.

The OP (me) is simply pointing out that there is a big difference between paid spokespeople endorsing a product and paid spokespeople claiming that they use a product that they don't.  It's misleading at best.

That's right...I just went 3rd person, baby.

PS - TM's lost their cleverness, too.  The #IER hats are awful.

The #ier moniker is doing exactly what TM wants it to do.  It's creating buzz and getting people talking about the new line whether its good or bad.  #clever....

[Caesar Palache]

TheMoneyShot, on 17 March 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

gunmetal, on 17 March 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

craniac76, on 10 March 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

The OP is like watching a commercial for the first time.  

If Tiger Woods drives a Buick in a commercial, it doesn't mean Tiger drives a Buick in real life.  It's just a commercial.  They just got paid to represent a product.

The OP (me) is simply pointing out that there is a big difference between paid spokespeople endorsing a product and paid spokespeople claiming that they use a product that they don't.  It's misleading at best.

That's right...I just went 3rd person, baby.

PS - TM's lost their cleverness, too.  The #IER hats are awful.

The #ier moniker is doing exactly what TM wants it to do.  It's creating buzz and getting people talking about the new line whether its good or bad.  #clever....

#clever-ier

[PedronNiall]

Bump. Seems strange, but the TM guys are apparently switching between these and the TMAG Tour MB somewhat regularly. Garcia has the Bladez back in the bag again this week.

[cvvorst]

gatewaygolfer, on 24 February 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

Thrillhouse, on 24 February 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

Do you guys think there is a bodybuilding forum out there where people start threads like this every time chuck norris picks up a free weight instead of using the total gym?

Yes, I own one bigger than this site and that industry is 10x worse than this.

What site is that? (if you don't mind sharing)

I used to frequent bb.com before every single veteran member became affiliated with a company...