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[Allan999]

Really interesting to hear that the tour guys are having the same issues. I lost a couple spikes on my first round (front of right foot). I'm not so impressed by the new system with the 90 degree insert and clip in... Basically as far as I can see they can't be "tightened", they are in or not... My right foot makes a 90 degree turn in the swing during follow through so to me it seems like bad design from Adidas, especially as the spikes are more exposed on the Adizero without the additional grip found on other Adidas shoes.

As for Adidas taking care of me...not in Germany at least...they don't sell spares on the website, they told me that they hadn't come across the issue before and that I should simply look for Adidas stockists on the Taylormade Germany website. So basically if I want to wear them again I'd better start hunting round for a company that will supply them... Not good enough in my opinion.

[dxbrobbo]

Allan999, on 19 March 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

Really interesting to hear that the tour guys are having the same issues. I lost a couple spikes on my first round (front of right foot). I'm not so impressed by the new system with the 90 degree insert and clip in... Basically as far as I can see they can't be "tightened", they are in or not... My right foot makes a 90 degree turn in the swing during follow through so to me it seems like bad design from Adidas, especially as the spikes are more exposed on the Adizero without the additional grip found on other Adidas shoes.

As for Adidas taking care of me...not in Germany at least...they don't sell spares on the website, they told me that they hadn't come across the issue before and that I should simply look for Adidas stockists on the Taylormade Germany website. So basically if I want to wear them again I'd better start hunting round for a company that will supply them... Not good enough in my opinion.

Yep, my front foot (guess you are a lefty) spins out a little, those two spikes on the outside are the two I have issue with as well.

Plus a random one on my back foot.

I got replacements sent to Dubai from the link below.

http://www.golfspike...after-175-c.asp

Hope that helps.

[Paul1412]

I'm located in Australia and I purchased 2 x pairs of the AdiZero Tours about 4 weeks ago in different colors. During my first game in my first pair, I lost 3 spikes and didn't think much of it as I presumed it was just because I didn't have the spikes tightened properly. After the round I purchased replacement spikes from the Pro Shop and went home and made sure they were all locked in securely.

I wore the same pair of shoes again (with the replacement spikes) for the next round I played and dropped the same 3 spikes plus an extra one - I was not happy, however I thought it might have been just that particular pair of shoes that were faulty.

Next round I wore the other pair that I purchased and by the time I finished warming up on the range, 2 spikes had fallen out. I continued to play the round in this pair and it became a bit of joke that I would have to bend down to pick up my tee, and a spike, every time I teed off. At the end of the round 5 spikes were missing and couldn't be found.

To the credit of Adidas Australia, I sent them an email about my concerns / problems and they responded within 24 hours offering to swap for new pairs free of charge. I have taken both pairs back to the Pro Shop I purchased them from and I am currently waiting for the replacement pairs to arrive. Unfortunately I am not overly optimistic that the same problem won't occur again - which is extremely disappointing as they are the lightest and most comfortable golf shoes I have ever worn.

Fingers crossed for when the new pairs arrive, but if it happens again I will definitely be switching shoes.

[dxbrobbo]

^ it will happen again

I have out a thin layer of superglue around the offending spikes, seems to have done the trick, I am not willing to right off what I paid for them and they are ridiculously light and comfortable as you say.

Will be interesting to see if Footjoy M Project users have the same issues.

[Allan999]

dxbrobbo, on 20 March 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

Allan999, on 19 March 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

Really interesting to hear that the tour guys are having the same issues. I lost a couple spikes on my first round (front of right foot). I'm not so impressed by the new system with the 90 degree insert and clip in... Basically as far as I can see they can't be "tightened", they are in or not... My right foot makes a 90 degree turn in the swing during follow through so to me it seems like bad design from Adidas, especially as the spikes are more exposed on the Adizero without the additional grip found on other Adidas shoes.

As for Adidas taking care of me...not in Germany at least...they don't sell spares on the website, they told me that they hadn't come across the issue before and that I should simply look for Adidas stockists on the Taylormade Germany website. So basically if I want to wear them again I'd better start hunting round for a company that will supply them... Not good enough in my opinion.

Yep, my front foot (guess you are a lefty) spins out a little, those two spikes on the outside are the two I have issue with as well.

Plus a random one on my back foot.

I got replacements sent to Dubai from the link below.

http://www.golfspike...after-175-c.asp

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the link, I'll see whether they deliver to Germany, I guess if they deliver to Dubai then why not... Actually I'm right handed.... my left foot moves a little, but it's when I turn in my follow through at the right foot pivots and pressure comes onto my right toes, so left foot roughly stays where it is, but right moves so toes point to target (maybe a little too much weight on the back foot!).

I guess the issue is, the spikes just aren't fixed enough to withstand any big movements or large pressure. I'll try the superglue technique maybe...

Maybe it will just have to part of my routine, as Paul 1412 says...  from now on... hit the shot, pose in the follow through, swizzle the club professional style, pick up tee, grub around for spikes that have fallen out...

[dxbrobbo]

Allan999, on 20 March 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

dxbrobbo, on 20 March 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

Allan999, on 19 March 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

Really interesting to hear that the tour guys are having the same issues. I lost a couple spikes on my first round (front of right foot). I'm not so impressed by the new system with the 90 degree insert and clip in... Basically as far as I can see they can't be "tightened", they are in or not... My right foot makes a 90 degree turn in the swing during follow through so to me it seems like bad design from Adidas, especially as the spikes are more exposed on the Adizero without the additional grip found on other Adidas shoes.

As for Adidas taking care of me...not in Germany at least...they don't sell spares on the website, they told me that they hadn't come across the issue before and that I should simply look for Adidas stockists on the Taylormade Germany website. So basically if I want to wear them again I'd better start hunting round for a company that will supply them... Not good enough in my opinion.

Yep, my front foot (guess you are a lefty) spins out a little, those two spikes on the outside are the two I have issue with as well.

Plus a random one on my back foot.

I got replacements sent to Dubai from the link below.

http://www.golfspike...after-175-c.asp

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the link, I'll see whether they deliver to Germany, I guess if they deliver to Dubai then why not... Actually I'm right handed.... my left foot moves a little, but it's when I turn in my follow through at the right foot pivots and pressure comes onto my right toes, so left foot roughly stays where it is, but right moves so toes point to target (maybe a little too much weight on the back foot!).

I guess the issue is, the spikes just aren't fixed enough to withstand any big movements or large pressure. I'll try the superglue technique maybe...

Maybe it will just have to part of my routine, as Paul 1412 says...  from now on... hit the shot, pose in the follow through, swizzle the club professional style, pick up tee, grub around for spikes that have fallen out...

Yup, certainly amused my playing partners 2 weekends ago, every tee on the back 9 I lost at least 1!

[CodyKid91]

I like the traction from Adidas spikes...but the PINS inserts are without a doubt the worst out there.

[Frankensteins Monster]

I read this thread two days ago about how people in here were losing spikes left and right. Well, I went to the range than night and guess what I saw in the stall I was in, one of these spikes. I looked at the connection and it looks horrible. No wonder why these things keep falling out. It's making me seriously re-think getting a pair of the Adizero Sports. They look like they'll be falling out continually.

[HisAirness]

I think it's not the PINS System. It must be the pronounced placement of the spikes. My other Adidas golf shoes (Porsche Design Cleat & Adipure Nuovo) have the same PINS spikes and none of them had any spike lost. But their spikes are more deep in the sole and more covered by the sole.
Glad I found this thread before buying the new Adizero Tour - I liked it a lot when trying it in the shop, so I guess I'm looking out for the new Adipure Motion.

Edited by HisAirness, 05 April 2013 - 04:47 PM.

[bcski]

I have about 20 rounds on mine with no issues.

[jshear]

In two rounds I have lost 4 total of my left shoe. The same spot (outer forward spike), everytime I replaced it, a few holes later it would be gone. I love the shoes but hate this issue.

[Monsieur Le Baton]

if it helps the cleats in question are Adidas Thintech PINS cleats and cost about £10 / $13 plus postage. I got mine from - http://www.snaintong...tech-golf-cleat - but seems like they are in short supply everwhere especially if you want to replace like for like with Adidas cleats.

[Frankensteins Monster]

I've decide to not get the Adizero Sport because of the spike spike situation. I decided against it because this weekend I saw yet more of the Thintech PIN spikes scattered at the range at the end of the demo weekend. Over the years I've never seen this many spikes on the ground. I read about people losing them but this weekend confirmed I won't be getting them. That sucks because I really liked them.

[Monsieur Le Baton]

Frankensteins Monster, on 08 May 2013 - 08:52 AM, said:

I've decide to not get the Adizero Sport because of the spike spike situation. I decided against it because this weekend I saw yet more of the Thintech PIN spikes scattered at the range at the end of the demo weekend. Over the years I've never seen this many spikes on the ground. I read about people losing them but this weekend confirmed I won't be getting them. That sucks because I really liked them.

I was worried same as you. Loved my fj contours, comfiest shoes ever, and never lost a stud, just replacing when worn out. Having said that, the adizero tours are on a par comfort wise and only 300grams per shoe, my fjs were about 550 each. I haven't lost one yet but a playing partner did this weekend. So I have bought the spares just in case. Also 5 rounds in with them and hadn't had to clean them at all. Usually stood over the air gun for about 10mins with my old shoes.

[Sawgrass]

After reading this thread I've been carefully watching my adizero Tour spikes, and after several rounds of walking and pushing my cart up and down some aggressive hills I've had no problems.

I'll still watch though, because I think the spikes are particularly good at supplying traction and may therefore be particularly susceptible to unscrewing themselves.

[Dei3Nascar8]

Same issue here as well.  Lead foot keeps losing spikes.  I am on my second pair after I returned the first ones because of this and on the back nine bam, another lost spike.  Email sent to Taylormade to see if they want me to return the shoes after each round.  Thought about adding some rubber cement but don't want to have issues removing the spike or damaging the bottom of the shoe.

How was this flaw not addressed prior to launch?  Very aggravated!

[Sawgrass]

 Dei3Nascar8, on 14 May 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

Same issue here as well.  Lead foot keeps losing spikes.  I am on my second pair after I returned the first ones because of this and on the back nine bam, another lost spike.  Email sent to Taylormade to see if they want me to return the shoes after each round.  Thought about adding some rubber cement but don't want to have issues removing the spike or damaging the bottom of the shoe.

How was this flaw not addressed prior to launch?  Very aggravated!

Please let us know how they respond to you.  I'm really surprised by this, mostly because as I understand it the spikes are the same as in previous years.

[lobub]

If you are losing spikes on your shoes, it is caused by a swing fault, not faulty design. Taylormade ingeniously designed these spikes to uncover faulty footwork. When your spikes stop falling out, then that means your swing is fixed. Don't blame TM because you need to see an instructor. Thank them for helping you identify what is holding you back.

[Golfwolf]

lobub, on 14 May 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

If you are losing spikes on your shoes, it is caused by a swing fault, not faulty design. Taylormade ingeniously designed these spikes to uncover faulty footwork. When your spikes stop falling out, then that means your swing is fixed. Don't blame TM because you need to see an instructor. Thank them for helping you identify what is holding you back.

Who knew??

[Golfwolf]

I actually bought a pair of the Adizero shoes this past weekend, the spikes do not seem to be fixed in the shoes very well and I can foresee losing a few. Someone mentioned about possibly using Crazy Glue in another thread, wondering if anyone has done this and if it helped?

[96p993]

Im in the same boat...I talked to my CC pro shop, they will be taking them back. I love the shoe but have lost 9 spikes in about a month (this does not include the spikes I feel come out of my shoe). Being able to put the spike back in and tighten with my hands simply does not seem right...Its a shame

[jastac]

All, I spoke to TMAg customer service this evening By Phone. I told them I was having issues w spike retention in the new adizero and they freely admitted they have had defects in their early run of that shoe, but have since corrected the problem. They said to go to any authorized TMAg dealer (regardless where you purchased them) and have them arrange to return the shoes for an exchange or refund.

General Customer Service
1-866-530-8624
M-F 7am - 4pm PST

[KMeloney]

Thinking this thread had died (or that I wouldn't be able to find it), I started a new one for everyone's spike retention experiences. Jastac, thanks for that info. I'm betting they didn't, but did they mention what the correction was?

[jastac]

 KMeloney, on 30 May 2013 - 07:41 PM, said:

Thinking this thread had died (or that I wouldn't be able to find it), I started a new one for everyone's spike retention experiences. Jastac, thanks for that info. I'm betting they didn't, but did they mention what the correction was?

They said in the initial run that they had a bad batch of mounts that caused the loss of spikes. I'm not sure i Believe what they told me fully. I feel that the way the raised sole design on the zero pulls dirt under the spike that Compormises
the lock on the spike allowing it to turn out. I think Unless the change the sole their going to continue to have problems. 'll be asking for my money back.

[KMeloney]

I don't believe it's a dirt thing -- I think that it's the fact that the spikes are the only thing touching the ground (mostly), and no torque is distributed across anything else that doesn't twist. But, maybe the mounts WERE bad (and were too sloppy a fit). So, you're not going to give another pair a try?

[jastac]

KMeloney, on 30 May 2013 - 10:49 PM, said:

I don't believe it's a dirt thing -- I think that it's the fact that the spikes are the only thing touching the ground (mostly), and no torque is distributed across anything else that doesn't twist. But, maybe the mounts WERE bad (and were too sloppy a fit). So, you're not going to give another pair a try?

I have a new pair of adipures (great shoe btw)  that I got as a replacement after my last pair leaked, I'll break them out this weekend. Between the spike issue and how the zeros mark up the greens, I'm not going to give them a chance to burn me twice on this shoe.

[KMeloney]

jastac, on 31 May 2013 - 06:15 AM, said:

KMeloney, on 30 May 2013 - 10:49 PM, said:

I don't believe it's a dirt thing -- I think that it's the fact that the spikes are the only thing touching the ground (mostly), and no torque is distributed across anything else that doesn't twist. But, maybe the mounts WERE bad (and were too sloppy a fit). So, you're not going to give another pair a try?

I have a new pair of adipures (great shoe btw)  that I got as a replacement after my last pair leaked, I'll break them out this weekend. Between the spike issue and how the zeros mark up the greens, I'm not going to give them a chance to burn me twice on this shoe.

I hear you. I have seen no greens marking/shredding like you and others have mentioned, and I really like the comfort and traction (when the spikes stay put!) of these shoes, so I'm hoping I don't have additional issues.

I have a few pairs of the Adipures, and whereas I like them a lot, I prefer the lightness and comfort of the Adizeros.

We'll see how this plays out...

[Sawgrass]

jastac, on 30 May 2013 - 08:15 PM, said:

KMeloney, on 30 May 2013 - 07:41 PM, said:

Thinking this thread had died (or that I wouldn't be able to find it), I started a new one for everyone's spike retention experiences. Jastac, thanks for that info. I'm betting they didn't, but did they mention what the correction was?

They said in the initial run that they had a bad batch of mounts that caused the loss of spikes. I'm not sure i Believe what they told me fully. I feel that the way the raised sole design on the zero pulls dirt under the spike that Compormises
the lock on the spike allowing it to turn out. I think Unless the change the sole their going to continue to have problems. 'll be asking for my money back.

You said they "freely admitted they have had defects in their early run of that shoe" and that they're willing to replace them for you, but you don't fully believe them?  Seems to me they'd be asking for big trouble if they offer free replacement shoes that have the same problem.  And it seems to me they're doing their best by you.  To me, that would add up to a positive . . . I'd make an extra effort to buy from a company that stood by their product like that.

As an aside, this also explains why some people haven't had this problem at all.

[jastac]

Sawgrass, on 31 May 2013 - 08:23 AM, said:

jastac, on 30 May 2013 - 08:15 PM, said:

KMeloney, on 30 May 2013 - 07:41 PM, said:

Thinking this thread had died (or that I wouldn't be able to find it), I started a new one for everyone's spike retention experiences. Jastac, thanks for that info. I'm betting they didn't, but did they mention what the correction was?

They said in the initial run that they had a bad batch of mounts that caused the loss of spikes. I'm not sure i Believe what they told me fully. I feel that the way the raised sole design on the zero pulls dirt under the spike that Compormises
the lock on the spike allowing it to turn out. I think Unless the change the sole their going to continue to have problems. 'll be asking for my money back.

You said they "freely admitted they have had defects in their early run of that shoe" and that they're willing to replace them for you, but you don't fully believe them?  Seems to me they'd be asking for big trouble if they offer free replacement shoes that have the same problem.  And it seems to me they're doing their best by you.  To me, that would add up to a positive . . . I'd make an extra effort to buy from a company that stood by their product like that.

As an aside, this also explains why some people haven't had this problem at all.

I think you are reading a lot into my post that I didn't say.  First off, I wear adidas soft goods (shorts pants polo shoes) all most exclusively and have had no issue with any of the 10+ pair of spikes other than a pair or two that leaked, which were replaced no questions asked. TMAG customer service has been awesome everytime I've ever needed them. But, MY feelings are that the sole, this is the "fully beleive" part, design of the adizero has a lot to do w the spike problem their having, not just the mount.
AG produced and shipped tens of thousands of this model shoe and its a lot cheaper for them to address the problems on the back side for those who have issues than to pull all that product off the shelves for a poor design, that's basic economic in manufacturing and distribution. Second, As for adidas, I'll continue to buy their products because I like the way they fit, look, and perform for me. I never mentioned or implied that TMAg was a bad company or that they weren't doing right by me and that I wasn't going to support them. I simply was relaying a interaction I had concerning a product problem and my thoughts on that conversation, nothing more.

Edited by jastac, 31 May 2013 - 09:19 PM.

[dxbrobbo]

jastac, on 30 May 2013 - 06:54 PM, said:

All, I spoke to TMAg customer service this evening By Phone. I told them I was having issues w spike retention in the new adizero and they freely admitted they have had defects in their early run of that shoe, but have since corrected the problem. They said to go to any authorized TMAg dealer (regardless where you purchased them) and have them arrange to return the shoes for an exchange or refund.

General Customer Service
1-866-530-8624
M-F 7am - 4pm PST

That is interesting, however I will bet my bottom dollar that the exchange/refund scheme doesn't extend to me here in Dubai.

Will try and contact the local rep.