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#1 BomberBrian13

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:53 PM

I am looking to get a new driver and am wondering which taylormade driver to get?


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:13 PM

Just to prepare you, your topic is going to begin a firestorm from TM haters for only considering the two new offerings from TaylorMade. Oh, and this is just begging for the standard "go get fitted!" response from 3/4 of replies. Just a friendly heads up.

In direct response to your question, hit them both and buy the one that you feel like you hit the best. That's the simple answer.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:18 PM

Go get fitted

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:54 PM

View Postajlackner21, on 17 February 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

The R1 is more preferable for me

Me too.  The Stage2 is a killer driver too.  I just prefer the adjustability of the R1 over the Stage2!

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:59 PM

R1 was longer for me.


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:00 PM

R1 for me.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:08 PM

Depends on needs.........slower swing would benefit from a lighter driver most of the time.......I did trim down my R1 and it's perfect for me even at slower speeds plus I like the higher adjustability more!!

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:15 PM

Just got my R1 and absolutely love it. I replaced my Titleist 910 D2 and couldn't be happier.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:33 PM

R1

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:38 PM

Stage 2 beat R1 for me, with one exception, Smash factor. My fitter is confident that Stage 2 Tour will bring the higher Smash factor and still greater results... Looking forward to March 15th.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:37 PM

R1 is pretty damn good. RBZ Stage 2 wasn't as good for me.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:05 AM

I'm awaiting talk of the Stage 2 Tour. TM said themselves it's their lowest spin hottest driver this release.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 10:57 PM

Both good but i prefer the rbz. The R1 was too loud!

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:00 PM

View Posttaemorin, on 23 February 2013 - 10:57 PM, said:

Both good but i prefer the rbz. The R1 was too loud!
When miss hit off center it is ear piercing! I might cottonball my R.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 01:44 AM

R1 for me was better. With regards to the sound - I think it sounds awesome!


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 01:46 AM

R1 just looks better.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 01:55 AM

View PostQegurezi, on 23 February 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

I'm awaiting talk of the Stage 2 Tour. TM said themselves it's their lowest spin hottest driver this release.

Same here. I hear its like the r1 less the unecessary adjustability

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 04:17 AM

View Postkekoa, on 24 February 2013 - 01:55 AM, said:

View PostQegurezi, on 23 February 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

I'm awaiting talk of the Stage 2 Tour. TM said themselves it's their lowest spin hottest driver this release.

Same here. I hear its like the r1 less the unecessary adjustability

Sounds great then.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 12:31 PM

View Postkekoa, on 24 February 2013 - 01:55 AM, said:

View PostQegurezi, on 23 February 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

I'm awaiting talk of the Stage 2 Tour. TM said themselves it's their lowest spin hottest driver this release.

Same here. I hear its like the r1 less the unecessary adjustability

That's my understanding exactly.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 12:39 PM

IMO don't go with taylormade drivers. I was hitting the RBZ Stage 2 with a high end aftermarket X flex and was hitting it 290-300 in the golfsmith simulator and the R1 with a 7M3 X flex barley over 300. I was hitting the I20 with the stock stiff shaft 320-330 in the sim, my 910 'ahina x5ct X was just a tad longer than the I20. Tmade is all marketing these days.

I would get a G25, I25 in the future, I20, or a 913 if you want a very solid driver. IMO they're all better than the tmades this year.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:06 AM

You definitely should try both the RBZ Stage 2 and R1 on a launch monitor and compare.  I have had the R1 for a few weeks and while it is a nice club, I am going to return it and get probably get a Rocketballz.  For some reason I am not getting enough loft on the ball most of the time, even at 12 degrees, which is probably a combination of my 88-92 mph swing speed and the angle of attack.    It is important that you hit both and see what the numbers are.   Chances are the higher your swing speed the more you will like the R1 and the lower your swing speed the more you will like the RBZ Stage 2.   It appears to me that the R1 is somewhat less forgiving based on hitting both on a launch monitor.   I found that I did better on slight misses with my R9 460 than the R1 plus the R9 460 had a better launch.  On average the R9 460 worked a little better for me.  The forgiveness difference seemed pretty noticeable for me.   For me the RBZ probably has a better sound and feel, quite a bit quieter.   The R1 has a little better looks, imho but the RBZ isn't bad.   The RBZ is $100.00 less while the R1 has all kinds of adjustability.  The R1 will keep the trajectory down some for the higher swing speed guys while the RBZ will probably get the ball up better for lower swing speeds.  The most important thing is performance so check them both out well if possible.  I will be taking another look at the RBZ Stage 2.  My ego wanted the R1 but in reality the RBZ Stage 2 is probably a better club for a once a week aging golfer with a fairly slow swing speed.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:09 AM

Stage 2. I love mine.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:52 AM

I tried them both a few weeks ago, and for me, the R1 with stock shaft have perfect numbers for my swing and almost every shot was perfectly down the middle.    The RBZ-2 although I got a few more yards (gained a few mph swing--lighter and a bit longer shaft probably) , but my shots sprayed everywhere- even after trying a few different shafts.  With that said though others had the opposite experience.  And I also want to add- I had similar experiences when I compared the r11 to the burner 2, and when I compared the r11s to the original RBZ.  The weight and balance of the r series have me better control than the lighter "distance" offerings.    In other words you really will have to try for yourself.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 08:46 AM

View Postlewisgl, on 14 March 2013 - 01:06 AM, said:

You definitely should try both the RBZ Stage 2 and R1 on a launch monitor and compare.  I have had the R1 for a few weeks and while it is a nice club, I am going to return it and get probably get a Rocketballz.  For some reason I am not getting enough loft on the ball most of the time, even at 12 degrees, which is probably a combination of my 88-92 mph swing speed and the angle of attack. It is important that you hit both and see what the numbers are.   Chances are the higher your swing speed the more you will like the R1 and the lower your swing speed the more you will like the RBZ Stage 2.   It appears to me that the R1 is somewhat less forgiving based on hitting both on a launch monitor.   I found that I did better on slight misses with my R9 460 than the R1 plus the R9 460 had a better launch.  On average the R9 460 worked a little better for me.  The forgiveness difference seemed pretty noticeable for me.   For me the RBZ probably has a better sound and feel, quite a bit quieter.   The R1 has a little better looks, imho but the RBZ isn't bad.   The RBZ is $100.00 less while the R1 has all kinds of adjustability.  The R1 will keep the trajectory down some for the higher swing speed guys while the RBZ will probably get the ball up better for lower swing speeds.  The most important thing is performance so check them both out well if possible.  I will be taking another look at the RBZ Stage 2.  My ego wanted the R1 but in reality the RBZ Stage 2 is probably a better club for a once a week aging golfer with a fairly slow swing speed.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 08:43 PM

View PostG-Bone, on 14 March 2013 - 08:46 AM, said:

View Postlewisgl, on 14 March 2013 - 01:06 AM, said:

You definitely should try both the RBZ Stage 2 and R1 on a launch monitor and compare.  I have had the R1 for a few weeks and while it is a nice club, I am going to return it and get probably get a Rocketballz.  For some reason I am not getting enough loft on the ball most of the time, even at 12 degrees, which is probably a combination of my 88-92 mph swing speed and the angle of attack. It is important that you hit both and see what the numbers are.   Chances are the higher your swing speed the more you will like the R1 and the lower your swing speed the more you will like the RBZ Stage 2.   It appears to me that the R1 is somewhat less forgiving based on hitting both on a launch monitor.   I found that I did better on slight misses with my R9 460 than the R1 plus the R9 460 had a better launch.  On average the R9 460 worked a little better for me.  The forgiveness difference seemed pretty noticeable for me.   For me the RBZ probably has a better sound and feel, quite a bit quieter.   The R1 has a little better looks, imho but the RBZ isn't bad.   The RBZ is $100.00 less while the R1 has all kinds of adjustability.  The R1 will keep the trajectory down some for the higher swing speed guys while the RBZ will probably get the ball up better for lower swing speeds.  The most important thing is performance so check them both out well if possible.  I will be taking another look at the RBZ Stage 2.  My ego wanted the R1 but in reality the RBZ Stage 2 is probably a better club for a once a week aging golfer with a fairly slow swing speed.

Nice summary, I agree.
I agree as well . Stage 2 is a better fit for me.
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 09:43 AM

I did fairly well with the stage 2 but when I was fitted for y R1 it was amazing. Bought it on the spot and haven't looked back!

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:51 PM

Tried both drivers again today.. this time I had better results with the R1. Tighter dispersion and I  was longer than the stage 2. The R1 was spinning much lower as well.
Now I am completely confused now. Any way I going to do a lot more testing before ordering. Either way they both are great
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:03 PM

View Postcxissi, on 15 March 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:

Tried both drivers again today.. this time I had better results with the R1. Tighter dispersion and I  was longer than the stage 2. The R1 was spinning much lower as well.
Now I am completely confused now. Any way I going to do a lot more testing before ordering. Either way they both are great
drivers .
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I had several testings on Trackman as well. My decision was a bit easier than yours, because Stage 2 beat out R1 each and every time for me. R1 was a close third, but Stage 2 was always number one (G25 was in the 2nd place slot).

I do have a suggestion for you cxissi, Stage 2 TOUR! It has been a perfect mix of R1 and Stage two for a couple of my boys... Give it a shot.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 12:17 PM

View PostG-Bone, on 15 March 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

View Postcxissi, on 15 March 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:

Tried both drivers again today.. this time I had better results with the R1. Tighter dispersion and I  was longer than the stage 2. The R1 was spinning much lower as well.
Now I am completely confused now. Any way I going to do a lot more testing before ordering. Either way they both are great
drivers .
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I had several testings on Trackman as well. My decision was a bit easier than yours, because Stage 2 beat out R1 each and every time for me. R1 was a close third, but Stage 2 was always number one (G25 was in the 2nd place slot).

I do have a suggestion for you cxissi, Stage 2 TOUR! It has been a perfect mix of R1 and Stage two for a couple of my boys... Give it a shot.
Will do, it may be a month or so before I see a lh tour version here .
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:48 PM

I actually demoed the RBZ Stage 2 with a 3 wood X stiff shaft today... it was awesome.

I did not like the R1, even with the Black Tie Matrix.... I just had 0 confidence with it.

I'd suggest getting fit, or demoing both and figuring out which one works better for you.


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