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#1 gmorgan88

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:27 PM

I am currently gaming a matrix 6m3  x in a 910d3 and it is crazy low launch and spin. Honestly not the best feel but it works. I'm thinking it might be a little stout for me. I swing around 115 but have slowed my transition. I've been hitting slight fades ever since I slowed my transition so am thinking of switching to something a little heavier and a tad smoother. I was curious about making the move to a 1/2" tip on a 7s instead of going 7x. Any thoughts? Also interested in the Accra tour z. Don't know as much about this one.


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:26 PM

A few random thoughts without having ever seen your swing:

-M3 series from Matrix does what it is supposed to do, provides a low launching, flat, low spin ball flight.  With each golfer may come different thoughts on feel, but generally speaking it provides a unique 1-piece stable sensation

-At 115mph club speed, I would be ok with you going heavier in Stiff flex (the BB7 or DI7 that you mention) if you are smoother, maybe a longer type backswing that gets to parallel or beyond.  Also, I'd want to make sure the transition is on the smoother side, and not a lot of violent hand action through the hitting zone.
In this situation, assuming your ball speeds are in the upper 160's+ as would be indicated by your club speed, I suggest tipping 1", as 1/2" in my opinion probably wouldn't be enough.

Again - just generalized statements based on my experiences fitting locally, having never seen your swing.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:26 PM

I'm in for the answer too, just ordered a BB 7x in my amp cell 3 wood.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:34 PM

Thanks for the response. Yes, ball speed is usually around 165 or so. The bb7s tipped 1" would be different than the x straight in how? Tighter at the bottom? I actually think going back up in the weight will be a good fit. I would say I get pretty close to parallel but can pick up speed quickly.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:32 PM

View Postgmorgan88, on 17 February 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

Thanks for the response. Yes, ball speed is usually around 165 or so. The bb7s tipped 1" would be different than the x straight in how? Tighter at the bottom? I actually think going back up in the weight will be a good fit. I would say I get pretty close to parallel but can pick up speed quickly.

165 a little on the low side for 115 club speed, so current set up you got those results with either isn't ideal for you, or contact on face is a bit off?....should be 168.5+, so leaving some yardage behind there - hopefully the new shaft / set up will get that where it needs to be.  Also look into club length and/or swingweight there.

S tipped 1" vs X straight in......in simplest terms, one is still a Stiff and one is still an X.  Just with the 1" tipped S you have removed 1" of the weakest part of a shaft (tip section) and retained an extra 1" of the strongest part of a shaft the butt section.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:44 PM

View Postdlefty, on 17 February 2013 - 10:32 PM, said:

View Postgmorgan88, on 17 February 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

Thanks for the response. Yes, ball speed is usually around 165 or so. The bb7s tipped 1" would be different than the x straight in how? Tighter at the bottom? I actually think going back up in the weight will be a good fit. I would say I get pretty close to parallel but can pick up speed quickly.

165 a little on the low side for 115 club speed, so current set up you got those results with either isn't ideal for you, or contact on face is a bit off?....should be 168.5+, so leaving some yardage behind there - hopefully the new shaft / set up will get that where it needs to be.  Also look into club length and/or swingweight there.

S tipped 1" vs X straight in......in simplest terms, one is still a Stiff and one is still an X.  Just with the 1" tipped S you have removed 1" of the weakest part of a shaft (tip section) and retained an extra 1" of the strongest part of a shaft the butt section.

I'm still getting it out there fine .. I just hit too many of them with slight fades. I might give the S tipped an inch a chance.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:58 PM

I've got a DI 6X and a BB 6S if that helps.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:16 PM

I play the DI-7X tipped 1/2" ( for the surefit adapter) in the 910 D3. My SS is in the 108-110 range and i've got no problems with the DI. BB should be a bit stouter but not much. I think you could easily handle the 7X in BB with your numbers, they're very smooth shafts.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:55 AM

So I got on a launch monitor last night with the 6M3 and hit from various loft and lie settings on my 910D3. After some tweaking -- I went back to the standard setting- A1. It was not calculating my SS for some reason but it did show ball speed and launch. I was consistently hitting 167 with my normal swing. When I tried to go after it, I got a couple in the low 170s. Longest one I hit carried 297 and rolled out to 323. Launch on it was 12 degrees. My launch varied somewhere between 11 and 13. A few went out a around 9 and one at 15. I knew those were anomalies though.

These numbers sound pretty good to me but I don't know if these are ideal. any thoughts? New to the shaft business and I am getting obsessed! Also interested in trying the Fuji tour Spec 7.2

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:32 AM

If you want smooth stick with the GD shafts and stay away from the speeder tour spec. The TS is similar to the 6m3, it provides a stout spin killing profile.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:42 AM

View Postkg92lefty, on 20 February 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:

If you want smooth stick with the GD shafts and stay away from the speeder tour spec. The TS is similar to the 6m3, it provides a stout spin killing profile.

Will the GD shaft spin too much though -- If I can get launch to around 12 with this one at 8.5 head I'm worried what a GD shaft might do

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:45 AM

Honestly, if your going to spend that much money on a shaft.  Go get fit.  All of us want to help you, but none of us are experts.  You will get the most bang for your buck if you get fit.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:10 AM

I've heard that he is pretty impressive. I will likely go get fit. It just doesn't make a lot of sense when you can't try everything you want.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:32 AM

At 115ss you should be able to play an X in either GD shaft. The DI plays softer IMO so you might even be able to tip an X a half inch or so to bring spin and launch down. The Fuji TS is definitely more stout and based on what you are looking for not a match. You might want to try a Kusala Indigo. Great shaft and pretty smooth and usually a little less expensive than the GDs. if you're looking at Fuji look at the non TS VCs.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:05 PM

View Postgmorgan88, on 20 February 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

I've heard that he is pretty impressive. I will likely go get fit. It just doesn't make a lot of sense when you can't try everything you want.

Where are you from, in most states there are people that have most x shafts that you can hit.  I have about 118 swing spped and I easily swing an X.  I have a tour ad 9003X.  Im sure the BB is similar so you should be able to hit that no problem.





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