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Wrenches - Does one fit all?


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#1 Sarbyturbo

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 06:12 AM

I have both a TM R11 and a Titleist 910 torque wrenches. Though they are the same size and shape fitment, and both are apparently set at a torque measurement of 40 lbs, so I would guess you can use one wrench for both?

However, the Callaway Razr Fit weight and hosel screw is again the same size and fitment as the TM and Titleist, so the afore mentinoed wrenches will fit. However, is the Callaway wrench set at 40lbs torque pressure like the other 2 or is it less or higher, and will using say the Titleist wrench on the Callaway (if the Callaway wrench is a lower torque), damage the screw or head thread?

Any ideas?


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:38 AM

I don't know, but I learned a new word... Fitment

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:46 AM

I know from personal experience that a cobra wrench will damage an r11s screw :(.

Edit: (its smaller)

Edited by Dbo35, 15 February 2013 - 08:47 AM.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 10:44 AM

I use a Razr Fit wrench in all my 910 woods and it works perfect.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 11:22 AM

They are using the same size and grade of machine screw so the torques should be the same.  TM, Callaway and Titleist do not make the machine screw.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 11:31 AM

Callaway, TM & Titleist use the same torx bit. But the Torque Setting on each wrng for each club is different.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:04 PM

View PostOUZO Power, on 15 February 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

Callaway, TM & Titleist use the same torx bit. But the Torque Setting on each wrng for each club is different.

What are they?

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:19 PM

Ok, I probably should just get my 💰 out and get myself a Callaway wrench, instead of being a such cheapskate and trying to get away without spending out on one! Times are tough ha 😉

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:42 PM

Diameter determines torque values. Steel into steel is one thing. But in the case of a golf club it is steel bolt into an aluminum tip.

And no way Jose is the value 40 lbs. For any club's screw/bolt/tip. Heck a 3/8ths shcs carries a 40 foot pound torque spec.

The M5 bolts on a Titleist 910D probably has a torque of 6 foot pounds / 8 newton meters.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:45 PM

Torque isn't measured in pounds, that's a measure of weight. They're in in-lbf or inch-pounds of force. Yes, you can use the ones set at 40 in all the heads they'll fit with that torque setting. Not positive on what the Cally is set at though. I can tell you I always used the yellow 30 in-lbf wrench for weights and the white wrench to tighten all the heads at the 40 in-lbf rating.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:51 PM

The only difference I knew about were the older TM wrenches which didn't have the same torque.

http://www.golfwrx.c...s/#entry3946581

Edited by Skaffa77, 15 February 2013 - 02:12 PM.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:31 PM

View Postdirtyboy, on 15 February 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

View PostOUZO Power, on 15 February 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

Callaway, TM & Titleist use the same torx bit. But the Torque Setting on each wrng for each club is different.

What are they?
Forgive me but I do not know. I was told this and my engineering background would drive me to this conclusion. Each manufacturer would have there own torque spec.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:55 PM

Who told you this?  IIRC TM and Titleist use the exact same torque.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:37 PM

I have used the same wrench in callaway, taylormade, titleist, and nike clubs with 0 problems.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:26 AM

View Postdirtyboy, on 15 February 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

Who told you this?  IIRC TM and Titleist use the exact same torque.
if you asking me I answered above in my other posts.

Since you want exact details, it was the guy working the proshop counter at golf town. Who also happens to be a friend. I remember I was hitting the RAZR FIT on the LM. And wanted to change some settings and went to grab a TM wrench. He advised against that and said each brand uses its own torque setting.

But since you know for a fact they all use the same torque settings I'm glad you shed some light on this issue.

Edited by OUZO Power, 17 February 2013 - 12:30 AM.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:55 AM

TM used to torque all weights at 30 in-lbs.  When R9 came out, they wanted the sleeve torqued to 40 in-lbs.

I've torqued my R9 sleeves to 30 in-lbs with the older wrenches and have never had an issue with the shaft backing out.  But the 40 in-lb wrench is notorious for shearing off the 1g and 2g weights in the ports if you use it.

30 in-lbs is defintely sufficient for the TM and Anser sleeves.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:23 AM

View PostOUZO Power, on 17 February 2013 - 12:26 AM, said:

View Postdirtyboy, on 15 February 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

Who told you this?  IIRC TM and Titleist use the exact same torque.
if you asking me I answered above in my other posts.

Since you want exact details, it was the guy working the proshop counter at golf town. Who also happens to be a friend. I remember I was hitting the RAZR FIT on the LM. And wanted to change some settings and went to grab a TM wrench. He advised against that and said each brand uses its own torque setting.

But since you know for a fact they all use the same torque settings I'm glad you shed some light on this issue.

I don't know about the RAZR Fit but the other 2 are the same.   It would be easy to test if you had a small torque wrench and all 3 wrenchs.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:27 AM

Ive used  TM wrench inTM (R11), titleist, and Ping.  Same thing.
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Posted 02 October 2014 - 01:09 AM

For the sake of starting another thread I'll add a question to this one. If someone can answer it will be greatly appreciated (you'll get a LIKE).

Will the Razr Fit torque wrench fit a Nike Covert Tour 2.0 and and is it similar torque? I've read other threads and it seems they are all the same just trying to make sure. Thanks.

Edited by 360_CS, 02 October 2014 - 01:10 AM.


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 02:03 AM

I use whatever wrench in whatever head and I've only ever had problems with Cally's Optifit plastic nipples.   I've cracked three by over-tightening to the snapping point.   The first two were my fault.  I used a TMag wrench, so I think the torque must be lower for Cally tips.   Then I got used to tightening just short of the snapping point and had no problems.   The last one was because a GRX'er corrected my mistaken judgement that Cally wrenches didn't snap, so I used my V series wrench to tighten my V series all the way to snap and CRACK, lost another one.

In fairness to Cally, they always send me replacement nipples and it looks like they fixed the problem with their latest adapters.


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 03:57 AM

Up to this point they've all been the same to me, except for the new Cobras, which have a smaller diameter bit.  Id imagine its the same torque though.  I guess if it fits, go for it.
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Posted 02 October 2014 - 07:50 AM

I used an older TM R9 or R7 in my 910.  The wrench fits perfectly, but it must have a lower torque value.  After a bit the shaft started to loosen a bit.  Used a Titleist wrench in my pro shop and no issues since.  I think as long as the wrench is current and fits then you will be fine, as the torque value should be correct.  I would be cautious of using a much older wrench.

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 12:15 AM

TM R7 wrenches are 30 in/lbs.
TM (R9 and newer) are 40 in/lbs.
Titleist is 40 in/lbs.
Callaway is 40 in/lbs.
Ping is 40 in/lbs.
Nike is 40 in/lbs.

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Posted 16 October 2014 - 02:51 PM

what wrench will work for titleist 910 and ping anser? Are they the same size? Thanks.
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Posted 16 October 2014 - 05:02 PM

View PostGator5, on 16 October 2014 - 02:51 PM, said:

what wrench will work for titleist 910 and ping anser? Are they the same size? Thanks.

Same.

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Posted 16 October 2014 - 09:23 PM

All companies wrenches are the same except Cobra, smaller bit. R7 wrench had less ft pounds as mentioned above. Some Adams and Cleveland wrenches use a proprietary bit, but since Adams got bought, they moved to the TM standard.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 12:06 AM

View Postprorobo, on 03 October 2014 - 12:15 AM, said:

TM R7 wrenches are 30 in/lbs.
TM (R9 and newer) are 40 in/lbs.
Titleist is 40 in/lbs.
Callaway is 40 in/lbs.
Ping is 40 in/lbs.
Nike is 40 in/lbs.
thank you

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 03:19 PM

so will the titleist wrench work with a SLDR hybrid?

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 04:20 PM

View Postandyk856, on 06 December 2014 - 03:19 PM, said:

so will the titleist wrench work with a SLDR hybrid?

Yes.

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 07:27 PM

Of course I have a Cally BB and a Cobra bio cell 3/4 wood. So I have to carry 2 wrenches. It stinks

Edited by fivehole26, 06 December 2014 - 07:28 PM.


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