What chance do I have to make the Champions Tour
Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:15 AM
It's too late for me.
Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:45 AM
Still if you have the time and enjoy golf, might as well go for it. Just don't expect sucess.
Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:36 AM
Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:36 AM
If you want to give it a try by all means do it, but don't quit your job or mortgage the house.
It's hard to accept but a lot of success, in golf or anything else, comes down to aptitude. I know a lot of really great golfers and almost to a man they were quite a bit better than you by the time they had played golf a couple of years. Why? Because they were blessed with an aptitude for the game. That plus hard work makes them good enough to play golf for a living.
Ask yourself, how long did it take me to get to a three? Considered that might be about as far as your aptitude will take you, no matter how hard you work.
Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:51 AM
The 40-somethings now -- your competition for the Champions Tour -- are some of the best players in the world. Phil, Stricker, Els, Furyk, etc. They haven't been 3 handicaps since they were in diapers.
It would be like running a marathon but giving the other runners a 20-mile head start.
Impossible? Heck no. But improbable? Highly.
Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:42 AM
Recently, I’ve had a number of inquiries from friends and fans wondering why I didn’t get into the last Champion’s Tour Event, The Outback Championship in Tampa, Fl. The truth is that I got down to 1st alternate on Tuesday afternoon when Tom Watson withdrew (Leonard Thompson took his place). But none of the 78 players in the field withdrew before tee time on Friday, thus I didn’t get to play.
So how is the field established? Let’s suffice it to say that it is the most complicated system known to man. Not a single player even understands it fully. Only Suzie Barber at the PGA Tour headquarters has a handle on it. Many of the tournaments, such as Tampa, are invitationals and have their own set of qualifications, which complicates the matter even more.
But for simplicity sake, let me start with the basics. The normal field size is 78 players. The field is comprised of the top 30 players who commit to the tournament who are in the top 70 on the All time PGA Tour Money List. The next set of 30 players comes from those who commit who are in the top 50 on the previous year’s money list. (That where I qualify based on being 45th on last year’s money list. There is no compensation that I didn’t start the year until May when I turned 50). The alternate list includes the players next in line out of the two above categories.
That leaves 18 players who qualify as follows:
a. All Hall of Famers who want to play
b All winners of a PGA Champion’s Tour Event in the previous 12 months
c. 5 from the Qualifying Tournament held last fall. This category later reshuffles in July to include all non-exempt players based on their current year’s money earned.
d. All Special Medical exemptions (those who were exempt but were injured) David Eager, Mark McNulty, etc
e. Top 4 players in the 50-51 year old category with multiple victories on the PGA Tour. (I don’t fit in here because I only have one victory)
f. 1 spot give to the highest performing player in the previous tournament who is not exempt yet finished in the top 10.
f. Hopefully 5 sponsor’s exemptions but this can be reduced if the above number gets to be more than 18.
g. Hopefully 4 Monday qualifying spots but this too can be reduced if the above number get to be more than 18.
So what does all this mean? With three more tournaments cancelling in 2011 (Cap Cana, Jeld Wyn, China), the Champion’s Tour is down to the lowest number of events in history (economy related). Thus, most eligible players are playing all or nearly all events. The tour, which used to boast 39 Champion’s Tour events, now is down to 21 regular season events and 4 special events. Though the tour is strong and new tournaments will come back, the reality is that there has never been a more difficult time than now to be eligible to play the Champion’s Tour.
We are soon approaching the meat of the season, and I should be getting into more events. Thanks for your interest and support!
Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:52 AM
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:45 PM
That being said, I have thought for a while it is the hardest tour in the world to make
Posted 07 February 2013 - 02:04 PM
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 02:45 PM
I was hanging out with a couple of guys from the Vanderbilt golf team and we got to meet and talk with snedecker a bit. Ive been kicking around the idea of teeing it up at a few mini tour and web.com qualifiers as an amateur just to see where Im at so I asked what it took to play on the pga tour or how to even know if you should try your luck as a pro.....he replied "what do you shoot here most days?"...i said "somewhere between 69 and 72" (course is rated at 75.2).....he said " when you get to where you can shoot around 64 to 66 twice a week here, and then be able to do that on a similar course out of state in a tournament, you'd probably be ok to try your luck in some mini tour stuff and not be completely out of your league".....
Yes....they are that rediculous
Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:06 PM
I just think - with golf - it is just exponentially harder than it looks. They truly make it look easy.
The pyramid gets really steep at the top.
Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:11 PM
Yes....they are that rediculous
There's a course I play here in San Diego called Salt Creek.
It's not all that difficult (rated 73.4/139).
But the first time Craig Stadler ever played it he shot 64, and he was probably 50 at the time.
Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:33 PM
- They have the ability to go low every round b/c they are alway in position to do so
I think this captures it.
The routine shots are almost always struck well, and when they aren't, their short games are nails.
Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:44 PM
The problem is, we (they) can't come close to doing it on a consistent basis.
If the guys playing the Tour haven't heard of you by now, chances are they won't.
Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:56 PM
Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:57 PM
We watch the PGA Tour to see who the best in the world are. But no one cares who the best golfers in the world over 50 are. They want to see Fred Couples bombing drives, Cory Pavin dropping bombs, TAIII looking slick. They make it particularly difficult for journeymen to make it out there by offering very few spots because nobody wants to watch them play.
That said, if you do make it, you are a total badass
Edited by geesecougar2, 07 February 2013 - 05:01 PM.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:19 PM
For those that can't be bothered to click...
The Dreamer Sees the Real Thing
A fellow drove into the parking lot of our Pete Dye course beside the river. He parked his Mercedes-Benz with California plates in the shade of our live oak trees and walked into the golf shop and asked to see my son Tinsley, the head pro.
This visitor was a good-looking man with an athletic build. His clothes were top quality. His shoes were shined. His face glowed with health. Tinsley invited him into the grill room so they could have a glass of iced tea at a comfortable table while he waited to hear what the man wanted.
"When I was a kid, I was a terrific player," began his story. "Junior championships, state high school champ, played for a university team that did well in the nationals. Got married my senior year. I wanted to try the pro tour, but instead I started in sales for my father-in-law's company and made more money playing golf with clients my first year than any rookie on the pro tour made grinding his heart out.
"I've kept my game in good shape. My handicap is a traveling 4. In the last year, I've had a 68 at the Old Course, a 70 at Pebble Beach, a 70 at Pine Valley, for example, and there was one great day when I shot a 67 at Riviera. For a CEO who has made more money than he knows what to do with, and also has a handsome wife and family, I can really play golf."
Tinsley congratulated him on his success.
"But I'm not satisfied," the fellow said.
"Why not?" Tinsley asked.
"I still want to play on the pro tour."
Tinsley drank his tea and waited.
"This is no pipedream," the fellow said. "I'm talking about the Senior Tour. I'm forty-three years old. I have sold my company for a very large sum. I'm free now to do whatever I want. My plan is to move my family here and buy a house beside your golf course.
"Every morning for the next seven years I will show up on your doorstep, rain or shine. I want daily lessons from you, and I'd like your father to check me every week or so. I'll hit five hundred practice balls a day. I'll play golf every day from the tips on this very tough course. Soon as I reach the age of fifty, I'll turn pro and join the Senior Tour. I'll pay you and your father whatever you ask, if you'll agree to get me ready. What do you say?"
Tinsley didn't need long to think it over.
"Let me tell you about one of our club members," Tinsley said. "Like you, he's forty-three years old, and he's made all the money he'll ever need. He has a handsome wife and family. He practices golf every day, and he plays golf nearly every day. He's getting ready for the Senior Tour in seven more years. At this tough golf course, his handicap is a plus-4. He is your competition. He is the player you are going to have to learn to beat if you are going to go on the Senior Tour. I really don't want to spend seven years of my life trying to help you to do that. Not for any price.
"There's the man I'm talking about — he's sitting over by the window, eating a club sandwich."
Tinsley gestured toward Tom Kite.
Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:47 PM