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Bit disappointed in LM #'s at Golfsmith with Adams Super ls


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#1 evanseze

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:59 AM

I stopped by Golfsmith in St. Louis on Monday while I was in town to look at some of the new 2013 offerings from Adams, Taylormade and whatever else jumped out at me.  I grabbed a 9.5 Super ls with a stiff KK, an RBZ Stage 2 with the stock stiff Fuji and a Ping Anser 8.5 with the Ahina 70 x flex.  I want to first say I am a big Adams fan and currently have a full Adams bag minus putter and wedges.  I started out hitting the Adams and although I love the look at address, I was not impressed by the numbers I was getting.  I just flat out could not get more than 280 total distance with this club.  Spin was not bad at around 2700 and the ball flight pattern looked good on the monitor, but I was just not getting it out there very well.  I only had about 15 minutes total as I had other places to be plus my wife was shopping next door so I knew I was on borrowed time.  I grabbed the Stage 2 and first swing total distance was 296......I hit a few more that the monitor did not pick up that felt pretty good, but as far as numbers go that was the best out of about 6 swings.  The worst numbers were around the numbers I was getting with the Adams.  Next I grabbed the Anser and hit it about 8-10 times with my longest being 306 total and my worst in the 275 range.  I figured I was somewhat loose at that point so I went back to the Adams and was still getting the same results as before......definitely disappointing.  I also had the top two 3 woods on my list in the bay with me.....the RBZ tour stage 2 and the Super ls.  Again I was getting the same results wit the RBZ stage 2 going about 270 total and the Adams averaging around 255-260.  I really love the look of the Adams line,  but I can't argue with the results.  I am going to attribute my disappointment to me driving in car for over 3 hours and being stiff.  Has anyone else had these same results?   I am not a big fan of Taylormade, but I may be gaming the RBZ 3 wood and a new Anser driver before long.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:07 AM

I tried the super LS as well at golfsmith.  Didn't like the hollow feeling tinny sound. Much preferred the RFX.  Super LS couldn't knock the RFX out of my bag.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:41 AM

I'm hoping I can get the Super LS at my club now that they are owned by TM.

Did you pay attention to the other numbers on the launch monitor? I'd be interested to know where the discrepancy came from... smash factor, clubhead speed, launch angle...

I'm a big Adams fan, so I"m hoping the LS isn't a dud (although I might just buy the Fast 12 LS instead [please don't PM me offers to buy your Fast 12 LS, internet])

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:08 PM

View Postevanseze, on 06 February 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

I stopped by Golfsmith in St. Louis on Monday while I was in town to look at some of the new 2013 offerings from Adams, Taylormade and whatever else jumped out at me.  I grabbed a 9.5 Super ls with a stiff KK, an RBZ Stage 2 with the stock stiff Fuji and a Ping Anser 8.5 with the Ahina 70 x flex.  I want to first say I am a big Adams fan and currently have a full Adams bag minus putter and wedges.  I started out hitting the Adams and although I love the look at address, I was not impressed by the numbers I was getting.  I just flat out could not get more than 280 total distance with this club.  Spin was not bad at around 2700 and the ball flight pattern looked good on the monitor, but I was just not getting it out there very well.  I only had about 15 minutes total as I had other places to be plus my wife was shopping next door so I knew I was on borrowed time.  I grabbed the Stage 2 and first swing total distance was 296......I hit a few more that the monitor did not pick up that felt pretty good, but as far as numbers go that was the best out of about 6 swings.  The worst numbers were around the numbers I was getting with the Adams.  Next I grabbed the Anser and hit it about 8-10 times with my longest being 306 total and my worst in the 275 range.  I figured I was somewhat loose at that point so I went back to the Adams and was still getting the same results as before......definitely disappointing.  I also had the top two 3 woods on my list in the bay with me.....the RBZ tour stage 2 and the Super ls.  Again I was getting the same results wit the RBZ stage 2 going about 270 total and the Adams averaging around 255-260.  I really love the look of the Adams line,  but I can't argue with the results.  I am going to attribute my disappointment to me driving in car for over 3 hours and being stiff.  Has anyone else had these same results?   I am not a big fan of Taylormade, but I may be gaming the RBZ 3 wood and a new Anser driver before long.
Not to high jack your thread but the best driver in the Adams line in my opinion is the Launch Lab. The 9015D is legendary but not very forgiving. The launch lab gives you the killer distance with forgiveness.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:36 PM

is the opposite for me, i try to like the Stage 2 because i am currently gaming a tour issue sftp 2.0 8.5, and just bag the rocketbladez irons. My avearge drive on the LM using the Stage 2 is 260-265 including roll but when I tried the Adams Super LS the avearge carry is about 260 and roll forever. Then I went outside and try both in the range, the ball flight of the Super LS is a little high compare to Stage 2 and I can see that my carry and distance is longer. I am going to try both again this weekend and bring my current gamer and compare the three drivers.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:25 PM

View Postviperstudio, on 06 February 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

is the opposite for me, i try to like the Stage 2 because i am currently gaming a tour issue sftp 2.0 8.5, and just bag the rocketbladez irons. My avearge drive on the LM using the Stage 2 is 260-265 including roll but when I tried the Adams Super LS the avearge carry is about 260 and roll forever. Then I went outside and try both in the range, the ball flight of the Super LS is a little high compare to Stage 2 and I can see that my carry and distance is longer. I am going to try both again this weekend and bring my current gamer and compare the three drivers.

I think I am going to try and find some demo days that I can compare the Stage 2 and the Super LS side by side outdoors on the range before making any final decisions.  I can say that the Ping Anser is most definitely going to be a purchase in the near future as it also completely obliterated the new 913D3 the last time I was in that same store.  I really hope the Super LS puts up a better showing outside on a range as I really like the way this driver looks at address.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:41 PM

I remember being at the PGA championship practice round in 1997.  Davis Love and Justin Leonard were side by side on the range each hitting driver.  They both had Titleist drivers.....975K? with EI70s.  Davis Love was pounding the ball one after the other to a green about 300 yards away and landing them on the fly like he was hitting wedges there.  

They switched drivers and Davis hit 3 or 4 straight sweeping hooks off the range with Justin's driver.  Handed it back shaking his head.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:52 PM

I've given every Adams driver of the last few years a fair chance and nothing can knock the 4250DF out of the bag. The 9015D got close, and I'm installing a new shaft in it this week, but it better be amazing because the 4250DF feels and sounds much better.

YMMV

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:53 PM

Your first mistake is trusting a LM at Golfsmith....all bets are off my friend...I don't care which OEM you go with, but I would never make a purchase decision based on a LM at a retail outlet like GS...IMO, you need to hit the clubs outside so you can actually see ball flight and then take several out on the course to see how they actually play....It might also be a good idea to make sure the shaft, head, etc. fit you before making any cavalier decisions...

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:53 PM

^. Yeah....  I wonder, given the distances are so jacked, can you rely on the launch and spin numbers provided?

Flight scope almost has the opposite problem- I get readings on it that are comparatively shorter than what I see on the course.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:11 PM

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:39 PM

I too was disappointed with Adams LS offerings this year.  The driver couldn't touch my Stage 2, the fairway could touch my RBZ and the hybrid couldn't touch my XTD.  Oh well... Maybe next year. ;)
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