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Custom Odyssey #9 HT- Phil's putter w/ black shaft and an explanation of why you add an insert to a milled putter!

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#1 Bogey's Belly

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:18 PM

I was very fortunate to get this putter through Odyssey's Tour Dept. and b/c it's 100% custom and unique, I figured I'd share some pics with you all.  It is modeled after a JDM (Japan) Forged-Milled ProType (PT) iX #9 HT w/ White Hot insert, but it has the black powder coat shaft found on the USA ProType Black and a white Iomic standard grip- I'm wondering if a black Iomic would've been better, but I kind of like how the white grip compliments the White Hot face.   Anyway, let me know what you all think. I added a few pics taken with a camera instead of the iPhone.  

A few people have asked, "Why add an insert to a forged/milled putter?" So I got the answer from the man himself:

"The milling or machining process is more about precision than creating some type of feel.  With the adjustable weight ports and the insert pockets places you could see variance in the casting process, we can get to tighter tolerances by milling those. With current casting processes, we can get to pretty tight tolerances, but the more detail you add to the putter, the more re-working after casting is required.  Simply put, we would have to change the weight design drastically on the PTiX if it were cast product and it wouldn't look as cool.  The other part of it is the market perception.  Golfers see milling as a very premium thing even though the majority of putters played by tour players in the U.S. are cast product.  The performance differences are not big.

In an all steel putter, it becomes more important because you're playing with the striking surface. That is why we were the first to go deep mill on the Callaway years ago and then brought it back on Black Series Tour Designs (only to have Scotty do the same one year later).  The more detail you put in the face, the more important the milling process is.

Two quick Did you know's?
Callaway was the first all milled putter with it's Billet series
A typical insert of ours weighs ~8 grams.  If you fill that same area with stainless steel, it would weigh ~58 grams.  The most underrated benefit of the insert is that we can take all of that weight and move it to more advantageous places in the putter (i.e. low and deep for better roll and heel/toe for more stability). "

Chris Koske
Global Director, Odyssey


Thanks!  

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:43 PM

Very nice, do you have the length and swing weight of it please?
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:50 PM

View Postspryevo, on 02 February 2013 - 07:43 PM, said:

Very nice, do you have the length and swing weight of it please?

34" - not sure about swing weight; the head is 350 grams w/ 15/15 setup; I can modify that from 340-360 by changing weights.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:32 PM

Nice!  I love the look of the HT head... plus you combined it with the black shaft. I would have to agree that the white Iomic grip compliments the white hot insert nicely.

Super sleek. Thanks for sharing the pics.  To me, you completed a dream combo.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:50 PM

I have never been able to put with the #9 style, but that is pure art! Great putter and can't wait to hear how she plays!

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:51 PM

View Postyukihiro, on 02 February 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

Nice!  I love the look of the HT head... plus you combined it with the black shaft. I would have to agree that the white Iomic grip compliments the white hot insert nicely.

Super sleek. Thanks for sharing the pics.  To me, you completed a dream combo.

Thanks! I would call this my "dream putter" as well- I can't thank the guys at Odyssey enough (they know who they are) and I couldn't be happier.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 09:06 PM

View Postknudson81, on 02 February 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

I have never been able to put with the #9 style, but that is pure art! Great putter and can't wait to hear how she plays!

Thank you; I never would've thought to go HT (high toe) until I saw it in person and I just love it now.  It's a little more like the Scotty Cali Del Mar than a traditional #9 Odyssey.  I just got it a week or so ago and the day it arrived was about 25 degrees and overcast but I still took it to the course for a few rolls.  I can't wait until I actually get a day to play.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 09:27 PM

That is a great looking putter.  I wish my Tour #5 had weights like that.

Looks sweeter than a Scotty for sure!

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 09:42 PM

That's sick. Wish they made it in LH.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 09:49 PM

Very nice


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 11:00 PM

wow! that thing is sweet  wish they would make a retail version soon.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:07 AM

View Postspence, on 02 February 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

wow! that thing is sweet  wish they would make a retail version soon.

Thank you; if you ever happen to be in Japan on a biz trip you can get a similar one (minus black shaft and few other minor details).  I've never understood why Japan seems to get some of the more impressive Callaway/Odyssey stuff, but maybe they feel the same way about us...

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:58 PM

holy moly infant jesus! that is a sweet putter!
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 03:13 PM

Super sexy putter man.  Beautiful.  Let me know when she yips up and you want to sell :D

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:39 PM

View Postjohnny5gti, on 03 February 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

holy moly infant jesus! that is a sweet putter!

Thank you!


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:56 PM

View PostbruinsPATSirish, on 03 February 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

Super sexy putter man.  Beautiful.  Let me know when she yips up and you want to sell :D

Ha! but she's yip proof...

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:00 PM

Amazing putter, that's been on my wish list for some time now...
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:49 PM

View PostPuppetmaster, on 03 February 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

Amazing putter, that's been on my wish list for some time now...

Thanks; I just threw in the 20g weights to bring the head up to 360g from 350g- wow, what a difference 10g makes.  I love it but I did not expect the change to be so noticeable.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:23 PM

I like that a lot.

Congrats!
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:30 PM

Sweet looking HT man!! Love the Black Shaft in that bad boy!! and the White Iomic(on my Versa also), is a great touch really makes the shaft stand out.  I believe that version with back shaft and white iomic would be called being 'stormtrooper'ed' !

Might do that to my versa.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:22 PM

This is so sick!!!
I just dont understand why Odyssey/Callaway will not release this putter in the states???? I have seen pictures of almost this exact putter floating around for over a year now and have emailed Odyssey/Callaway on multiple occasions asking about this being released and get the same response - NO COMMENT.  Really!!
I have not recieved one good reason why this will not be released here????

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:41 PM

View PostSlappy9, on 04 February 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

This is so sick!!!
I just dont understand why Odyssey/Callaway will not release this putter in the states???? I have seen pictures of almost this exact putter floating around for over a year now and have emailed Odyssey/Callaway on multiple occasions asking about this being released and get the same response - NO COMMENT.  Really!!
I have not recieved one good reason why this will not be released here????


Thank you.  One big reason they haven't released it in the US might be the price- the similar JDM retail version w/ the regular steel shaft would cost nearly $600.  That limits the market to very few, IMO.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:44 PM

View PostDscvrr St Louis, on 04 February 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

Sweet looking HT man!! Love the Black Shaft in that bad boy!! and the White Iomic(on my Versa also), is a great touch really makes the shaft stand out.  I believe that version with back shaft and white iomic would be called being 'stormtrooper'ed' !

Might do that to my versa.

Thanks! You need to trademark stormtrooper'ed soon before an OEM steals that name for a future product line!

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:45 PM

The HT model of this sets up perfectly. Such a classy looking putter.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:48 PM

View PostBogey, on 04 February 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

View PostSlappy9, on 04 February 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

This is so sick!!!
I just dont understand why Odyssey/Callaway will not release this putter in the states???? I have seen pictures of almost this exact putter floating around for over a year now and have emailed Odyssey/Callaway on multiple occasions asking about this being released and get the same response - NO COMMENT.  Really!!
I have not recieved one good reason why this will not be released here????


Thank you.  One big reason they haven't released it in the US might be the price- the similar JDM retail version w/ the regular steel shaft would cost nearly $600.  That limits the market to very few, IMO.

Didn't those prices work well for Scotty?  I would buy a $600 putter that looked like that.  Didn't Callaway charge $400 for their putters a couple of years ago?


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:01 PM

View Postdeck, on 04 February 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

The HT model of this sets up perfectly. Such a classy looking putter.

Thank you!

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:07 PM

I would be willing to pay ~200 for a putter like that, love the high toe just like Phil does.

600 dollars for a mass-produced insert putter doesn't exactly win me over, but I do love the style.

Any other companies put out a high-toe style like this? I know some of the Cali-Camerons have a high toe, but this is much higher.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:11 PM

View PostTeedogg, on 04 February 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostBogey, on 04 February 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

View PostSlappy9, on 04 February 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

This is so sick!!!
I just dont understand why Odyssey/Callaway will not release this putter in the states???? I have seen pictures of almost this exact putter floating around for over a year now and have emailed Odyssey/Callaway on multiple occasions asking about this being released and get the same response - NO COMMENT.  Really!!
I have not recieved one good reason why this will not be released here????


Thank you.  One big reason they haven't released it in the US might be the price- the similar JDM retail version w/ the regular steel shaft would cost nearly $600.  That limits the market to very few, IMO.

Didn't those prices work well for Scotty?  I would buy a $600 putter that looked like that.  Didn't Callaway charge $400 for their putters a couple of years ago?

I honestly don't know; I know Scotty can get expensive, but I am not sure about $600, unless it is a long putter, special edition, etc.  The most expensive Odyssey I have seen in the past few years has been either $269 or $299 for the ProTypes and Tour Design models, but I admit I am not the best source for putter info.  Until last year, I had played the same putter for about 6 years- 8 years.  I suppose it might make sense for Odyssey to offer this type of putter via custom order or something along those lines.  It is also possible to throw a white Iomic grip on their current ProType Black and have nearly the identical look, top down.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:13 PM

View Postsubrosa, on 04 February 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

I would be willing to pay ~200 for a putter like that, love the high toe just like Phil does.

600 dollars for a mass-produced insert putter doesn't exactly win me over, but I do love the style.

Any other companies put out a high-toe style like this? I know some of the Cali-Camerons have a high toe, but this is much higher.

The closest thing I have seen to this is the Scotty Cameron- California Del Mar. It doesn't have the insert and the toe is not as high, but it is close and has the weight ports.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:38 PM

I would swap out my protype 9 if odyssey  would offer it at a reasonable
price. $350.00 a putter would be a nice price. $500.00 plus is over board
On a mass produced putter !!

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