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1954 Toney Penna TP Persimmon Woods Restoration

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#1 downeastgolf

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:27 PM

I uncovered these Penna woods in the back of a corrugated metal shack owned by a 95 year old friend of mine!  He has probably 10,000 clubs, many quite rusted, that he has collected since the 1940s.  I am helping him to organize the collection and bought many of the more interesting woods and sets of irons that I have discovered in the process.  The Toney Penna TP here is interesting because of the shafts.  I have never seen this insert around the shaft band.  Anyone know what it is?

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#2 downeastgolf

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:39 PM

sorry I cannot upload the pictures where I wanted to show the shafts with brass insert surrounding the shaft band.  it errors out saying the file is too big,

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:42 PM

View Postdowneastgolf, on 30 January 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

I uncovered these Penna woods in the back of a corrugated metal shack owned by a 95 year old friend of mine!  He has probably 10,000 clubs, many quite rusted, that he has collected since the 1940s.  I am helping him to organize the collection and bought many of the more interesting woods and sets of irons that I have discovered in the process.  The Toney Penna TP here is interesting because of the shafts.  I have never seen this insert around the shaft band.  Anyone know what it is?

What a great find. I can't wait to see what's under that old paint!!!
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:59 PM

Last try, here is one of the brass shaft insets I wrote about the earlier post, thanks!

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 08:21 PM

ThanksTThanks Kevcarter, me too.  I will post again when done.  I wish I knew about the shaft - nothing in Kaplan about this.


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 08:37 PM

View Postdowneastgolf, on 30 January 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

ThanksTThanks Kevcarter, me too.  I will post again when done.  I wish I knew about the shaft - nothing in Kaplan about this.

New to me too. I'll bet Charley Penna will see this post and answer. He'll know for sure!
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:00 PM

I have several sets of Macgregor Penna VIP irons, they have the same shaft band. Don't know what it signifies, looks like brass foil but in- sets in the shaft,.smooth joint,not overlapping.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:56 PM

I wonder if it has something to do with stiffening the upper shaft in order to produce a lower kick point.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:12 AM

Any chance of showing some different views of the heads, ie face and top?  Just seeing the soles is teasing me.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:05 AM

I may have an answer on your shaft question. I recently regripped some Propel shafts and found that the shafts were copper plated under the chrome, I guess to improve the bonding of Chromium to Ferrous metal in the electroplating process. Makes for a very high quality product, if a little heavy.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:07 AM

Copper underplate was masked before applying  chrome plating. Nothing functional.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:58 AM

View Postxgolfx, on 31 January 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

Copper underplate was masked before applying  chrome plating. Nothing functional.

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Charley, was this the way they made the Colokrom models and others,, by masking off the face area? If so, then if you wished to replate the copper face only  could you  mask the existing chrome areas?
On my clubs the chrome is very good (again a very high quality product) and this would save the expense of having to strip all the plating and starting over with copper then chrome.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:13 AM

I don't know the answer.i do not like to guess.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:32 PM

I appreciate Mr. Penna's response, but if this is not functional, why expose 2 inches of the base shaft at all?  Also, is it rare to copper plate shafts in this era?  I have never heard of this type of shaft treatment.  I cannot seem to upload more pictures of these unrestored Pennas, keep getting a file too big reply.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 02:51 PM

Stixman,
When the Colokrom irons were made, the raw head was copper plated and the face was masked prior to chroming.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:01 AM

View PostOld Pro, on 09 May 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

Stixman,
When the Colokrom irons were made, the raw head was copper plated and the face was masked prior to chroming.
Keith
Thanks, Keith, I think that confirms what Charley was saying earlier.
Thinking about it, I am sure that if you were to mask off the Chrome, you could enhance the copper plating by electrolysis. This is the bit which gets tatty on the Colokroms and look-alikes.
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