Our club is considering re-evaluating the hole handicap allocations (which hole is the #1 handicap hole, etc). Historically we have captured 'organized golf' scorecards as our source of data which is ideal (a good representation of the members and lots of data). But we now have a problem.

Since our last hole handicap allocation we have changed the tees that organized golf plays from. We now give golfers the choice of the middle tees or 'senior tees' (we are an old group - average age probably close to 70). So the result is that when we gather cards pretty much all the high handicappers will be playing the forward tees and all the low handicappers will be playing the middle tees. Kind of messes up the process.

Now that we are a Ghin state (used to be Golfnet) we have the option of entering 'hole by hole' scores and letting the Ghin system do all the hole handicap calculations for us (the Handicap Committee would still do the final allocations). Plus I have been told that the Ghin system can handle the 'mixed tees' when this calculation is done (but I was not told this by an authoritative source).

I can imagine a 'reasonable' way to handle this mixed tee problem. When the USGA rates a course it comes out with a scratch and bogey rating for each hole. So basically each hole has an (uncalculated) slope and rating. So if you were to compare 'hole differentials' (ignore the handicap of the golfer and calculate the 'differential' on each hole based on the tee played and each golfer's gross score), this could work.

Has anyone ever heard of doing things like this and do you know if Ghin can actually do it? Does Ghin even have access to the by hole scratch and bogey ratings as done by the USGA (or their designated agent)?

Thanks.

dave

ps. This brings up the interesting question of why bother with all the data and calculations - just base hole handicap allocations on the scratch/bogey ratings that are already done by definition.

Since our last hole handicap allocation we have changed the tees that organized golf plays from. We now give golfers the choice of the middle tees or 'senior tees' (we are an old group - average age probably close to 70). So the result is that when we gather cards pretty much all the high handicappers will be playing the forward tees and all the low handicappers will be playing the middle tees. Kind of messes up the process.

Now that we are a Ghin state (used to be Golfnet) we have the option of entering 'hole by hole' scores and letting the Ghin system do all the hole handicap calculations for us (the Handicap Committee would still do the final allocations). Plus I have been told that the Ghin system can handle the 'mixed tees' when this calculation is done (but I was not told this by an authoritative source).

I can imagine a 'reasonable' way to handle this mixed tee problem. When the USGA rates a course it comes out with a scratch and bogey rating for each hole. So basically each hole has an (uncalculated) slope and rating. So if you were to compare 'hole differentials' (ignore the handicap of the golfer and calculate the 'differential' on each hole based on the tee played and each golfer's gross score), this could work.

Has anyone ever heard of doing things like this and do you know if Ghin can actually do it? Does Ghin even have access to the by hole scratch and bogey ratings as done by the USGA (or their designated agent)?

Thanks.

dave

ps. This brings up the interesting question of why bother with all the data and calculations - just base hole handicap allocations on the scratch/bogey ratings that are already done by definition.

**Edited by DaveLeeNC, 30 January 2013 - 02:23 PM.**