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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:20 PM

Figured I would start a discussion for Titleist AP2's and how they react with different shafts in them. I'm a high ball hitter and generate a decent amount of spin. It's not necessarily a bad thing, unless it's pretty windy of course. So what shafts have you tried in AP2's that you found combated the higher flight produced by the club head? I guess this thread is geared more toward guys who have higher swing speeds and tend to hit the ball higher.

Post your combination. Also, post your 6 or 7 iron distances.

Thanks!

Edited by jeffrey08250, 24 January 2013 - 05:21 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:31 PM

I played the 712 AP2s with C-taper S+ and that combination had a lower trajectory for me.  My 6 iron carry is about 185.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

View Postoldhamer25, on 24 January 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

I played the 712 AP2s with C-taper S+ and that combination had a lower trajectory for me.  My 6 iron carry is about 185.

I have C-Taper S+ in a set of Taylormade MC's and hit them really high, and I honestly don't like the feel of C-Tapers. I've thought about X's soft stepped to improve the feel, but I would probably see a higher than desired trajectory with a normal swing.

Edited by jeffrey08250, 24 January 2013 - 05:40 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:43 PM

DGs or C Taper, depending on which feel you prefer.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:52 PM

I just purchased a set of AP2s with Super Peening Blue X Stiff.  The flight is about right, but I have lost a few yards coming from MP 64 with soft stepped C Tapers in S+.  These may be a little stiff for me.  Now carry a 6 iron about 182


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:56 PM

View PostKDMullins, on 24 January 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

DGs or C Taper, depending on which feel you prefer.

I agree with this, although I think your soft stepped X isn't a bad idea. Could try hard stepped S+ too... Or bending a degree or two strong... I don't know. Maybe try a lower spin head like the i20 unless you're set on AP2s.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:58 PM

6 iron carry is 187 ish.  I played ap2s with s300s -  might switch to pxi

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:08 PM

View Postmdb0103, on 24 January 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

I agree with this, although I think your soft stepped X isn't a bad idea. Could try hard stepped S+ too... Or bending a degree or two strong... I don't know. Maybe try a lower spin head like the i20 unless you're set on AP2s.

I'm definitely not dead set on AP2's, but it is an iron I am highly considering. As far as the shaft goes, if I went back to a C-Taper, it would be a soft stepped X rather than a hard stepped S+.

I don't like i20's at all.

Edited by jeffrey08250, 24 January 2013 - 06:08 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

View Postjeffrey08250, on 24 January 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

View Postmdb0103, on 24 January 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

I agree with this, although I think your soft stepped X isn't a bad idea. Could try hard stepped S+ too... Or bending a degree or two strong... I don't know. Maybe try a lower spin head like the i20 unless you're set on AP2s.

I'm definitely not dead set on AP2's, but it is an iron I am highly considering. As far as the shaft goes, if I went back to a C-Taper, it would be a soft stepped X rather than a hard stepped S+.

I don't like i20's at all.

I hear ya, I didn't get along with them either. S56 are also on the lower spin side. I'm not pin pointing PING, but most forged irons these days seem to be higher spin. Maybe I'm wrong though...
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:10 PM

I've got C-Taper X in mine. Best combination of workability, feel and spin reduction I've found (coming from 710MB with PX 7.0).
6 iron (32* loft) distance is right around 200 yards depending on the weather (Ball speed around 137 mph). LA: 16*, Spin: 5500-5700


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:31 PM

View PostMat905s, on 24 January 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:

I've got C-Taper X in mine. Best combination of workability, feel and spin reduction I've found (coming from 710MB with PX 7.0).
6 iron (32* loft) distance is right around 200 yards depending on the weather (Ball speed around 137 mph). LA: 16*, Spin: 5500-5700

Thanks for the info. My 6 iron distance with my S3 Pro MB's (X100's) is 190 with a normal full swing on a warm day, no wind. That's making me lean toward C-Taper X's soft stepped once.

Edited by jeffrey08250, 24 January 2013 - 11:31 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:38 PM

I have S300 in my 712's. 7 iron distance is 170, 6 iron is 185.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

I play 712 AP2 with PX 6.5. Lower ball flight for me, great feel and workability. I have hit C Tapers X and S+, just like the feel of the PX better fits my game. 190 carry with my 6i

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

Had S300's in mine but switched to C-Taper S. Flight is a bit lower and more penetrating Picked up 1/2 club distance over the S300's. 7i 170; 6i 185.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:25 PM

what If I wanted to hit the ball higher? (I know don't have a heart attack!).  I have a really flat swing and hit a low draw with little spin.
Would PXi do the trick compared to s300?


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:34 PM

View Posttigerslions78, on 25 January 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

what If I wanted to hit the ball higher? (I know don't have a heart attack!).  I have a really flat swing and hit a low draw with little spin.
Would PXi do the trick compared to s300?

This should help

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Edited by PZero, 25 January 2013 - 05:34 PM.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:57 PM

View Posttigerslions78, on 25 January 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

what If I wanted to hit the ball higher? (I know don't have a heart attack!).  I have a really flat swing and hit a low draw with little spin.
Would PXi do the trick compared to s300?

You're not going to gain spin with the PXi. It's a high launch, low spin shaft. I would think S300's would be perfect if you're looking for more spin. I spin the ball like crazy with S300's. I'm steep though, and you stated you're flatter. KBS Tour's are spinny and higher launching according to most. I've never tried them because I heard they spin a lot.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

I play AP2 with Dynalite Gold XP s300. 7 iron 157 carry. This shaft helped create more spin then PX, KBS tour or DG. Also lighter which helped SS of 95.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:49 PM

View Posttigerslions78, on 25 January 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

what If I wanted to hit the ball higher? (I know don't have a heart attack!).  I have a really flat swing and hit a low draw with little spin.
Would PXi do the trick compared to s300?

Stay away from PXi.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:01 PM

I have Dynalite Gold XP S300 Hardstepped in my 712s, and I carry my 7 Iron 165.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:09 PM

View PostDrewmun, on 25 January 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

View Posttigerslions78, on 25 January 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

what If I wanted to hit the ball higher? (I know don't have a heart attack!).  I have a really flat swing and hit a low draw with little spin.
Would PXi do the trick compared to s300?

Stay away from PXi.
Can you better explain this comment?  If you look at tigers sig he plays pxi.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:19 PM

View Postoldhamer25, on 25 January 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

View PostDrewmun, on 25 January 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

View Posttigerslions78, on 25 January 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

what If I wanted to hit the ball higher? (I know don't have a heart attack!).  I have a really flat swing and hit a low draw with little spin.
Would PXi do the trick compared to s300?

Stay away from PXi.
Can you better explain this comment?  If you look at tigers sig he plays pxi.

to be honest the woods are in the mail but the irons in my sig are non existant yet - I was about to place the order and chickened out leaving s300 feels wierd for me

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:20 PM

View PostDrewmun, on 25 January 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

Stay away from PXi.

Post and run. LOL

Posts like this should have some detail along with them. It doesn't help anyone when you post something like that. Several tour players are using them. I know Dufner has them in all of his irons. I hit a buddies Scratch SB-1 6 iron that was shafted with a PXi 6.5 and it felt awesome. Had a very penetrating ball flight.

Edited by jeffrey08250, 25 January 2013 - 08:21 PM.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:21 PM

using the chart above the pxi spin way more than s300?

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:24 PM

View Posttigerslions78, on 25 January 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

using the chart above the pxi spin way more than s300?

That chart doesn't hold true at all for me.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:05 PM

View Postjeffrey08250, on 25 January 2013 - 08:24 PM, said:

View Posttigerslions78, on 25 January 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

using the chart above the pxi spin way more than s300?

That chart doesn't hold true at all for me.
I would agree with you.  Case in point, I think the project x trajectory is higher than the c taper.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:05 PM

View Postoldhamer25, on 25 January 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

View Postjeffrey08250, on 25 January 2013 - 08:24 PM, said:

View Posttigerslions78, on 25 January 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

using the chart above the pxi spin way more than s300?

That chart doesn't hold true at all for me.
I would agree with you.  Case in point, I think the project x trajectory is higher than the c taper.


I agree too, and would say KBS should be up higher on the chart.
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