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[GolfWRX]

[Puppetmaster]

Awesome guys, I'd be a kid in a candy store around all those tents. Any more info on the green and silver Aldila shaft?

[Imp]

So many options. So little time!! Well done!

[Golfer_1993]

The green and gray shaft of Aldila looks really great! Any more info on this guys?

[miket_81]

WOW Great stuff! What's the word on the Black KBS with the colored labels?

[JGalls]

What's this Oban?

Love the simple graphics.

Edited by JGalls, 24 January 2013 - 12:00 PM.

[Super Tuna]

Radix S?
Nunchuk iron shaft eh. That could be interesting!

Someone want to badger Fujikura and UST for me? I'm curious what the bend profile on the EXS and the Recoil 600's are.

[Dave Feldman]

Great pics. Thank you.   What's the deal with GD?  Are they coming back to the US?  Love the fubuki shafts.

[gatewaygolfer]

Super Tuna, on 24 January 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

Radix S?
Nunchuk iron shaft eh. That could be interesting!

Someone want to badger Fujikura and UST for me? I'm curious what the bend profile on the EXS and the Recoil 600's are.

Nunchuk iron shaft was scary straight...really impressed with it.

New white kiyoshi..meh....purple and devo still the best.

New BB (forget the series name) was really nice. Similar to Bb but firmer tip, flatter flight towards the end.


In the end i was shocked how good the nunchuk iron shaft was. Scary straight, smooth feel and just blown away by the consistency of an iron graphite shaft (hit steel fiber too).

Tried a C-taper X vs. Tour X....got 2mph more speed with Tour.

[tbowles411]

JGalls, on 24 January 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

What's this Oban?

Love the simple graphics.

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It's a graphite iron shaft.

[emster3534]

Is there any reason why the new MRC shafts, specifically the new Diamana, don't have the trademark x5ct stamped on the shafts?

[JB lefty]

I am think a large number of companies are getting more and more graphics on their shafts to the point that they are becoming a distraction.  IMO less is better. The PX black shaft is subtle but still has a sense of design to it.

[jokerusn]

Golfer_1993, on 24 January 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

The green and gray shaft of Aldila looks really great! Any more info on this guys?

+1.  What's the "Tour" shaft's profile?

[Big Ben]

That Motore Speeder .3TS is a bad motha! It's gonna find a home in my G25 for sure...BB

[TheMoneyShot]

Man those Oban shafts are sweet!  One of each please!!

[junior22]

emster3534, on 25 January 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

Is there any reason why the new MRC shafts, specifically the new Diamana, don't have the trademark x5ct stamped on the shafts?

Yes, because x5ct refers to the weight of a shaft in carats (weight measurement for diamonds, 5 carats in a gram, ex 63g x5ct means 63 x 5 carats = 315 carats which equals 63 grams.  The only reason they do this is because Mitsubishi-rayons logo is the three diamonds, no other reason.  This x5ct was previously only seen on true aftermarket shafts or what you all love to refer to as "real deal" because the oem aftermarket shafts from mrd identify other qualities in the shaft other than just weight with markings like 'g 35 t' followed by the weight and flex which means the shaft is a .350OD.  Now back to the question at hand...the reason the "trademark" x5ct" is not seen on the new RETAIL shafts is because ALL of Mitsubishi-rayons RETAIL shafts (meaning straight from the Mitsubishi factory or through taylormade, titleist, callaway, etc) will be the same.  This is to avoid people feeling like they've been cheated out of quality because the shaft isn't "real deal" as we've all heard in the past.  The make up of the shafts, comparatively, will be no different than they were before and on a side note, the previous oem aftermarkets were tweaked slightly to better match the playing characteristics of the clubhead for the RETAIL market, they were not lacking in quality or any lesser than the ones you bought straight from the factory. (Do you really think a company like Mitsubishi-rayon (or any company for that matter) would put their product out in the retail market (it's broadest market) that was of a lesser quality than their company standards?) the answer is no so for everyone that felt cheated out of a shaft because their spin rate or launch was a touch higher or lower than they expected, they were designed that way in the past.  But worry not because Mitsubishi caught on and that's the reason they aren't going to put any markings whatsoever on shafts that differ market to market to avoid us consumers complaining over quality and performance lapses...that's my rant for the day but I hope I answered your question at least a little bit lol.

[devlin3000]

junior22, on 25 January 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

emster3534, on 25 January 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

Is there any reason why the new MRC shafts, specifically the new Diamana, don't have the trademark x5ct stamped on the shafts?

Yes, because x5ct refers to the weight of a shaft in carats (weight measurement for diamonds, 5 carats in a gram, ex 63g x5ct means 63 x 5 carats = 315 carats which equals 63 grams.  The only reason they do this is because Mitsubishi-rayons logo is the three diamonds, no other reason.  This x5ct was previously only seen on true aftermarket shafts or what you all love to refer to as "real deal" because the oem aftermarket shafts from mrd identify other qualities in the shaft other than just weight with markings like 'g 35 t' followed by the weight and flex which means the shaft is a .350OD.  Now back to the question at hand...the reason the "trademark" x5ct" is not seen on the new RETAIL shafts is because ALL of Mitsubishi-rayons RETAIL shafts (meaning straight from the Mitsubishi factory or through taylormade, titleist, callaway, etc) will be the same.  This is to avoid people feeling like they've been cheated out of quality because the shaft isn't "real deal" as we've all heard in the past.  The make up of the shafts, comparatively, will be no different than they were before and on a side note, the previous oem aftermarkets were tweaked slightly to better match the playing characteristics of the clubhead for the RETAIL market, they were not lacking in quality or any lesser than the ones you bought straight from the factory. (Do you really think a company like Mitsubishi-rayon (or any company for that matter) would put their product out in the retail market (it's broadest market) that was of a lesser quality than their company standards?) the answer is no so for everyone that felt cheated out of a shaft because their spin rate or launch was a touch higher or lower than they expected, they were designed that way in the past.  But worry not because Mitsubishi caught on and that's the reason they aren't going to put any markings whatsoever on shafts that differ market to market to avoid us consumers complaining over quality and performance lapses...that's my rant for the day but I hope I answered your question at least a little bit lol.

You rant sir!
rant away...indeed!
Good on you for getting it out there, you feel better now? lol

thanks for the info as well.
devlin

[JCool]

junior22, on 25 January 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

emster3534, on 25 January 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

Is there any reason why the new MRC shafts, specifically the new Diamana, don't have the trademark x5ct stamped on the shafts?

Yes, because x5ct refers to the weight of a shaft in carats (weight measurement for diamonds, 5 carats in a gram, ex 63g x5ct means 63 x 5 carats = 315 carats which equals 63 grams.  The only reason they do this is because Mitsubishi-rayons logo is the three diamonds, no other reason.  This x5ct was previously only seen on true aftermarket shafts or what you all love to refer to as "real deal" because the oem aftermarket shafts from mrd identify other qualities in the shaft other than just weight with markings like 'g 35 t' followed by the weight and flex which means the shaft is a .350OD.  Now back to the question at hand...the reason the "trademark" x5ct" is not seen on the new RETAIL shafts is because ALL of Mitsubishi-rayons RETAIL shafts (meaning straight from the Mitsubishi factory or through taylormade, titleist, callaway, etc) will be the same.  This is to avoid people feeling like they've been cheated out of quality because the shaft isn't "real deal" as we've all heard in the past.  The make up of the shafts, comparatively, will be no different than they were before and on a side note, the previous oem aftermarkets were tweaked slightly to better match the playing characteristics of the clubhead for the RETAIL market, they were not lacking in quality or any lesser than the ones you bought straight from the factory. (Do you really think a company like Mitsubishi-rayon (or any company for that matter) would put their product out in the retail market (it's broadest market) that was of a lesser quality than their company standards?) the answer is no so for everyone that felt cheated out of a shaft because their spin rate or launch was a touch higher or lower than they expected, they were designed that way in the past.  But worry not because Mitsubishi caught on and that's the reason they aren't going to put any markings whatsoever on shafts that differ market to market to avoid us consumers complaining over quality and performance lapses...that's my rant for the day but I hope I answered your question at least a little bit lol.

Since aftermarket Diamana shafts retail for $360, I suspect that there will still be significant differences between "real deal" and stock OEM shafts, even with the same markings.  I don't think they wised up to putting identical shafts in the OEM clubs.  I think they just wised up to the fact that consumers didn't like knowing that fact, as they could see that "designed exclusively for Titleist" or whatever written on the shaft, and they knew it wasn't the "real deal".
It's just that now they won't know that it isn't the real deal, since the paint job will be the same.
Kind of tough to make a good profit if you are retailing a club for $399, so selling it to the Golf Galaxy or wherever for less, and having a superexpensive shaft in it.

[deck]

I will have one of each please. Especially the graphite iron shafts. Bad elbows and all that.

[Super Tuna]

JCool, on 26 January 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Since aftermarket Diamana shafts retail for $360, I suspect that there will still be significant differences between "real deal" and stock OEM shafts, even with the same markings.  I don't think they wised up to putting identical shafts in the OEM clubs.  I think they just wised up to the fact that consumers didn't like knowing that fact, as they could see that "designed exclusively for Titleist" or whatever written on the shaft, and they knew it wasn't the "real deal".
It's just that now they won't know that it isn't the real deal, since the paint job will be the same.
Kind of tough to make a good profit if you are retailing a club for $399, so selling it to the Golf Galaxy or wherever for less, and having a superexpensive shaft in it.

Not as hard as you think. When OEM's place such a large order they get a steep discount on those shafts. Ala the one that costs us $360 down the lane, they pay $20 or less for, with a big emphasis on or less.

[HoMStYLz]

Talked with Jeff at Aldila for a good hour or so, couldn't be a nicer guy. The new shafts coming out green/grey will be similar to an NV profile with RIP technology but with a much stiffer tip, the way he explained it was it is a XS shaft with the tip stiffness equal to a XX shaft, there is also a blue/grey one that will be a VS profile with a slightly softer tip with more of a mid kick. Just got a green NV profile shaft to try with the super stiff tip which I can't wait to try. Shaft has that rubber type coating like the Matrix Code shafts... I was also able to pick up a Accra Prototype shaft that I know nothing about except it seems to be the right combo in my RFE. Shaft is all black with that rubber feel coating with Accra Prototype written on it, by the tip it just says TourZ/M5. From the info I was able to get it is a new Accra TourZ shaft that will be coming out at some point this year, supposed to have a stiffer tip & a different balance point? No club, all I know is its a great feeling Accra shaft. Jeff from Aldia also said that since the merger with MRC Aldila has been running like it always has & doesn't expect anything to change. We also had an interesting talk when I mentioned I still had a few Cinnamon shafts & how much I liked it, I was told that it cost a boat load for the graphite to make that shaft which is the reason they were able to get the torque so low while still keeping the weight fairly light. Was also told the Phenom NL shafts will also be released to the public this year as well.

[swanry30]

This would be my favorite part of the show without a doubt!

Edited by swanry30, 27 January 2013 - 02:44 AM.

[jnradioactive]

Love the colors on that Fuel

[mickeytbones]

What is that gold and black Harrison?
It is not even on their website.
Looks pretty trick.

[ladahl]

JGalls, on 24 January 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

What's this Oban?

Love the simple graphics.

e709b5e4e3b9ce1bccadacc18b7ca518.jpg

I think this is their iron shaft

[EngGolf]

That new Fujikura Fuel shaft is calling my name!  I installed a Fujikura Motore F1 65 in my 10.5 R11 and it has been the best investment I've made.  It brought my spin rate and launch angle down versus the stock blur shaft and has given me 20 more yards, most of those coming from additional roll distance.  However, the Motore F1 does tend to feel a bit harsh at times.  The Fuel appears to have similar launch/spin characteristics as the Motore F1 but with more feel, which sounds perfect to me!

[Imp]

HoMStYLz, on 27 January 2013 - 02:23 AM, said:

Talked with Jeff at Aldila for a good hour or so, couldn't be a nicer guy. The new shafts coming out green/grey will be similar to an NV profile with RIP technology but with a much stiffer tip, the way he explained it was it is a XS shaft with the tip stiffness equal to a XX shaft, there is also a blue/grey one that will be a VS profile with a slightly softer tip with more of a mid kick. Just got a green NV profile shaft to try with the super stiff tip which I can't wait to try.

Are you talking about this one?



Because the new RIP NV is up on the Aldila site, and it's not ^^^^ that one.

Or, are you saying the above pictured shaft will be similar to the RIP NV but with an even stiffer tip?

Thanks!

--kC

Edited by Imp, 28 January 2013 - 03:03 PM.

[hector.ortiz352]

Some great looking shafts...

Question: Does anybody know how if the new Fujikura Motore Speeder shafts are anything like the ones that were on the TM R9? I know they made changes and adjustments to improve but is the feel still the same. I really enjoyed the stiff flex shaft I had on my R9, and am thinking about putting these shafts on my RAZR FIT and X HOT (3 WOOD)... Suggestions welcomed...

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[Super Tuna]

The feel is fairly different mate. The ones in the R9 were from the F1 line, which feel stouter then the Speeder line across the board, at least from my experience.

[pearls24]

What is the difference between the White/Orange Fuel and the Black/Orange Fuel?  Is it just a paint job or is the white/orange the Tour Spec version?