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[preshotroutine]

With Rory going back to his Cameron putter and hearing the talk that nearly every player who has played a Scotty Cameron putter and then switched to another putter has had issues and had to go back to their trusty Cameron.


Why is this the case? For someone who knows nothing about putters other then a Scotty costs as much as a lot of Drivers. Are you really that good?

Seems to me that every great putter has played a Cameron putter and some point.


WHY ARE THEY SO GOOD, OR ARE THEY? OR IS IT A MATTER OF TYPICAL OEM MARKETING HYPE?

[KYMAR]

preshotroutine, on 21 January 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

With Rory going back to his Cameron putter and hearing the talk that nearly every player who has played a Scotty Cameron putter and then switched to another putter has had issues and had to go back to their trusty Cameron.


Why is this the case? For someone who knows nothing about putters other then a Scotty costs as much as a lot of Drivers. Are you really that good?

Seems to me that every great putter has played a Cameron putter and some point.


WHY ARE THEY SO GOOD, OR ARE THEY? OR IS IT A MATTER OF TYPICAL OEM MARKETING HYPE?

I don't notice this trend. But maybe I just missed it. Could you name a few of the other guys you're referring to? Thanks

[preshotroutine]

Tiger, Rory, Paul Casey

[Onyx Z]

preshotroutine, on 21 January 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

Tiger, Rory, Paul Casey

TW went back to the Cameron? Doubtful with the amount of money they are throwing his way...

Edited by Onyx Z, 21 January 2013 - 12:09 PM.

[benjammin172]

I'd assume that it had more to do with a golfer feeling more comfortable with their older equipment as opposed to their new stuff. I mean lets be honest...you could give Rory a hockey stick and he would still be a better golfer than 99% of the people on the planet. I think he went back to what he was comfortable with after struggling a bit with his new equipment.

[zerofade]

stewart cink and lucas glover both did ..

[KYMAR]

Tiger is using the method. has been pretty consistently since 09.  Rory used his scotty in the second round. and said afterwards he plans to return to the Method. That leaves Paul Casey as your remaining example of what you would have us believe is a trend. I could start a thread that said :"Whats with all of the Players going to the Sabertooth?" then when asked what I mean simply answer "Well stricker did" It's meaningless as these guys switch equipment around all the time. There is no statistical significance to this, even if all 3 of your examples were correct.

[MarkFromTheUK]

It's because Scotty Cameron is a magician. He sprinkles magic dust over his putters and puts curses on all other brands.

In all serious though, they're just better. Nothing feels as good as a handmade Scotty, Bettinardi or Piretti... particularly those awful white things which feel like they have been made from recycled beer cans..

[scp1976]

I have never played with a Cameron so I can't tell you if there is some magic in each one.  What I do know is that the putter is the club that pros keep in the bag the longest.  Even though nike is trying to make a putter that is probley going to be a spitting image of his Cameron it is probley a big mental issue for him to swap out the one club you had consent for who knows how many years.  As for other pros who knows I'm sure someone on here can give a better theory .

[mattman]

It's personal preference, for example Webb is on the titleist staff yet he plays a ping putter.

[preshotroutine]

I am not a golf club expert by any means. I am not a very good player either. I love the game and love the equipment. I play maybe if I am lucky 10 times a year. I would play more but I am a high school teacher and have 4 kids. Golf is so expensive. I would play every day if I could and I think about golf 24/7 I love it. So for me because I don't play a lot, but want to I guess I get sucked into the equipment trap.

Anyway I live near a PGA Super store, golf galaxy and a golf smith Xtreme. Over the years I have spent hours hitting clubs and putting at these stores. Of course they have every putter known to man in ever size model etc. Over the years I have putted with every putter in each of these stores. I have to tell you that I can honestly say that the Cameron's feel the best to me. They are the most balanced best sounding, and give the best roll. This is just my opinion.

Of course I will never buy one! I just can't pay over $300.00 for a putter, you can tell every time you strike the ball that they are quality in every way.

Anyone else have this experience?

[wcbjr]

MarkFromTheUK, on 21 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

It's because Scotty Cameron is a magician. He sprinkles magic dust over his putters and puts curses on all other brands.

In all serious though, they're just better. Nothing feels as good as a handmade Scotty, Bettinardi or Piretti... particularly those awful white things which feel like they have been made from recycled beer cans..

Ping much?






...here comes endless debate using nothing but opinion...

[whatshannenin]

This seems like a roll bread.....

[TheMoneyShot]

zerofade, on 21 January 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

stewart cink and lucas glover both did ..

That's probably because Nike left a bad taste in their mouths when they were both dropped this year.

[MarkFromTheUK]

wcbjr, on 21 January 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

MarkFromTheUK, on 21 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

It's because Scotty Cameron is a magician. He sprinkles magic dust over his putters and puts curses on all other brands.

In all serious though, they're just better. Nothing feels as good as a handmade Scotty, Bettinardi or Piretti... particularly those awful white things which feel like they have been made from recycled beer cans..

Ping much?






...here comes endless debate using nothing but opinion...

Actually you're right... the Anser Milled putters feel great. Not so sure about the others though.

[Frankensteins Monster]

MarkFromTheUK, on 21 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

It's because Scotty Cameron is a magician. He sprinkles magic dust over his putters and puts curses on all other brands.

In all serious though, they're just better. Nothing feels as good as a handmade Scotty, Bettinardi or Piretti... particularly those awful white things which feel like they have been made from recycled beer cans..

Cameron's are handmade? I'm not sure how handmade 'Turn cnc machine on. Load cutting specifications for X product. Press start.' is.

Edited by Frankensteins Monster, 21 January 2013 - 12:34 PM.

[scottcheek]

Putters are the money maker...making putts consistently across different surfaces requires feel.  Players who are successful have a trust and feel in their putter that cannot be easily replaced or duplicated.  That's the answer, just so happens the examples you used all came to the PGA Tour through extreme success as an amateur using Titleist and Scotty equipment.

[Konklifer]

Say what you want but I see many more Odyssey's on the PGA tour and around the world than Camerons.  And I'm not a basher as I have a GoLo S and think it is a great stick.

[Jamboy72]

Are players going back to Cameron putters?  Yes and no...Players can switch putters and experiment...some more than others...but if the OP's assertion here is that players who formerly played SC putters, switched to a different putter (Nike?) and found it to be less than adequate and are now switching back...that answer is NO...

[jaiello]

This is a question that really has no answer here on this forum.  The Cameron haters will tell you that a Cameron is all hype.  The Cameron lovers (me among them) will tell you that they feel best.  Remember putting is 90% half mental (sorry Yogi) and you usually putt best with what you think is best.  I can tell you that you will never get a real answer to this question on any golf forum.

[Ness]

It's funny how these threads only pop-up when Mr. Cameron is involved. It all comes down to preference by the INDIVIDUAL player, and has a lot to do with successful past performances. Have you ever noticed how when some players move on from PING sponshorships, they usually try someting different..and put Pings irons back in the bag? (Ryan Moore, Chris Stroud, Kyle Reifers, D.A. Points, Arjun Atwal) It doesn't mean Ping irons are best. It doesn't mean Scotty putters are the best. It's a comfort thing, plain and simple.

[pingman1]

How many gold plated putters are in Scotty's vault?

[Jimv]

preshotroutine, on 21 January 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

I am not a golf club expert by any means. I am not a very good player either. I love the game and love the equipment. I play maybe if I am lucky 10 times a year. I would play more but I am a high school teacher and have 4 kids. Golf is so expensive. I would play every day if I could and I think about golf 24/7 I love it. So for me because I don't play a lot, but want to I guess I get sucked into the equipment trap.

Anyway I live near a PGA Super store, golf galaxy and a golf smith Xtreme. Over the years I have spent hours hitting clubs and putting at these stores. Of course they have every putter known to man in ever size model etc. Over the years I have putted with every putter in each of these stores. I have to tell you that I can honestly say that the Cameron's feel the best to me. They are the most balanced best sounding, and give the best roll. This is just my opinion.

Of course I will never buy one! I just can't pay over $300.00 for a putter, you can tell every time you strike the ball that they are quality in every way.

Anyone else have this experience?

I have Bettinardi's, Piretti's, and a Byron Morgan that all feel as good as a Cameron. Everytime i get thinking i like Cameron putters, i go buy one, put with it for a whil and then realize with 4 degrees of loft its like putting with a pitching wedge for me - ball launches up in the air and has horrible role.

[SDL]

preshotroutine, on 21 January 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

With Rory going back to his Cameron putter and hearing the talk that nearly every player who has played a Scotty Cameron putter and then switched to another putter has had issues and had to go back to their trusty Cameron.


Why is this the case? For someone who knows nothing about putters other then a Scotty costs as much as a lot of Drivers. Are you really that good?

Seems to me that every great putter has played a Cameron putter and some point.


WHY ARE THEY SO GOOD, OR ARE THEY? OR IS IT A MATTER OF TYPICAL OEM MARKETING HYPE?

It hasn't been reported on the Golf Channel, but I used to play a Scotty Cameron putter and I have not gone back to the Scotty after playing Ping and Odyssey.  Maybe the pros are just not good enough to make putts with anything except a Cameron.   

In fact, Camerons are great putters, but so are many other brands and you just have to figure out what putter works best for you.  There is "magic" in any putter you learn to trust and have confidence in.

SDL

[Abstract]

You can't spend $300 on a putter?  You will use your flatstick 20-30+ times in a round, yet people spend $500+ on a driver used 10 times in a round?

You want to win games/matches in Club Championships and Tournaments?  Learn how to putt for dough!

preshotroutine, on 21 January 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

I am not a golf club expert by any means. I am not a very good player either. I love the game and love the equipment. I play maybe if I am lucky 10 times a year. I would play more but I am a high school teacher and have 4 kids. Golf is so expensive. I would play every day if I could and I think about golf 24/7 I love it. So for me because I don't play a lot, but want to I guess I get sucked into the equipment trap.

Anyway I live near a PGA Super store, golf galaxy and a golf smith Xtreme. Over the years I have spent hours hitting clubs and putting at these stores. Of course they have every putter known to man in ever size model etc. Over the years I have putted with every putter in each of these stores. I have to tell you that I can honestly say that the Cameron's feel the best to me. They are the most balanced best sounding, and give the best roll. This is just my opinion.

Of course I will never buy one! I just can't pay over $300.00 for a putter, you can tell every time you strike the ball that they are quality in every way.

Anyone else have this experience?

[Abstract]

Sooner or later, Scotty will have everything made in China (Titleist is doing this now) for a deeper profit margin.

[skubat]

I switched to a Scotty a year ago and it is hands down the best golf decision I have ever made. Del Mar is magical and wills the ball into the hole!!!!

[onafriday]

Because pros get them for free.  If I were on tour, I'd be messing around with all those Camerons every weekend!

Edited by profsmitty, 22 January 2013 - 01:41 PM.
removed questionable word

[rrkman]

Frankensteins Monster, on 21 January 2013 - 12:34 PM, said:

MarkFromTheUK, on 21 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

It's because Scotty Cameron is a magician. He sprinkles magic dust over his putters and puts curses on all other brands.

In all serious though, they're just better. Nothing feels as good as a handmade Scotty, Bettinardi or Piretti... particularly those awful white things which feel like they have been made from recycled beer cans..

Cameron's are handmade? I'm not sure how handmade 'Turn cnc machine on. Load cutting specifications for X product. Press start.' is.

Correct, same with the others.  Bettinardi owns a CNC facility and is considered a 'master' miller.  I'm guessing that Piretti isn't carving a putter head from a billet either.  I'm sure some of these guys can do some amazing things with a grinder but you'll have a hard time finding a handmade these days.

[pgagreg1]

Jimv, on 21 January 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

preshotroutine, on 21 January 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

I am not a golf club expert by any means. I am not a very good player either. I love the game and love the equipment. I play maybe if I am lucky 10 times a year. I would play more but I am a high school teacher and have 4 kids. Golf is so expensive. I would play every day if I could and I think about golf 24/7 I love it. So for me because I don't play a lot, but want to I guess I get sucked into the equipment trap.

Anyway I live near a PGA Super store, golf galaxy and a golf smith Xtreme. Over the years I have spent hours hitting clubs and putting at these stores. Of course they have every putter known to man in ever size model etc. Over the years I have putted with every putter in each of these stores. I have to tell you that I can honestly say that the Cameron's feel the best to me. They are the most balanced best sounding, and give the best roll. This is just my opinion.

Of course I will never buy one! I just can't pay over $300.00 for a putter, you can tell every time you strike the ball that they are quality in every way.

Anyone else have this experience?

I have Bettinardi's, Piretti's, and a Byron Morgan that all feel as good as a Cameron. Everytime i get thinking i like Cameron putters, i go buy one, put with it for a whil and then realize with 4 degrees of loft its like putting with a pitching wedge for me - ball launches up in the air and has horrible role.

you do know that you can custom order Camerons with less loft at no additional charge