How do you say your score? ESC applied?
Posted 18 January 2013 - 10:08 AM
Geometrically Oriented Linear Force
Posted 18 January 2013 - 10:55 AM
Posted 18 January 2013 - 11:12 AM
Sounds like an "I woulda shot" situation, with about 1/2 hour of explanations... :-)
Geometrically Oriented Linear Force
Posted 18 January 2013 - 11:43 AM
On one I didnt even have a real score, and the other I shot an 8.
So it feels kinda weird saying I shot an 89 today.
The guys I play with say its the right way to do it.
And some of the guys dont even finish a hole if they max out.
Just wondering if this is the common way to say your score or not.
It feels weird because you didn't shoot an 89.
You don't "say" your ESC score, ever. You silently enter it into the computer when posting your score for handicap purposes.
Hopefully the guys you are playing with aren't doing this in any kind of stroke play competition?
Edited by teejaywhy, 18 January 2013 - 11:44 AM.
Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:09 PM
Rant over, haha.
Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:27 PM
its mainly to help get the rounds finished.
Like I hit my drive out of bounds and then couldnt find my provisional, so instead of waiting on me to hack out a 10 or worse on a par 5 when the course is crowded I still get to put a score down.
Then insted of saying you round is void, you say you shot an 89.
Edited by w6racing, 18 January 2013 - 12:28 PM.
Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:11 PM
Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:12 PM
Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:21 PM
More so those who carry a vanity handicap.
Anyways, by not finishing a hole, by default aren't you supposed to take the max score based on your hcp?
Posted 18 January 2013 - 10:52 PM
Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:41 AM
Wouldn't a sandbagger want to write down a high score to make the HDCP go up????????
There has been two times that I didn't post my score, both times I was DQ due to picking up my ball, ended up losing money. My Ghin that I keep is actually 2.1 stokes lower then when I play in my weds - fri. club. Trust me I would love to sandbag but I consider it stealing. Hints the reason I said thief instead of sandbagger to the guy who won our bracket in the Club Championship. Hell, we where in the C flight and he would have won B flight and 2nd in A flight. finished in top 10 or so of the champions flight.
My Ghin: 9.7
Club Ghin: 12(11.8)(only time they show the tenth is when you're grouped with someone else in the same handicap.
If I keep scores it gets posted. Yes I'm wrong every once and a while when I post an 8 on a par 5 but that is very rare. If I understand the rules I can take a 7 max on every hole.
One more thing If I was a sandagger I think I would still be a closer to a 18 hdcp like I was at the start of 2012.
Now that I have posted this I hope I don't go out and score a 8 on a par 5 because my next round is in a tournament at Waialae Country Club(Sony Open Course).
Posted 19 January 2013 - 08:25 AM
The USGA Handicap Manual is online: http://www.usga.org/...andicap-Manual/
Section 4 covers unfinished or unplayed holes and how to apply ESC.
Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:35 AM
Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:05 PM
Sorry, but if you didn't have a "real" score on a hole, then you don't have a real score on the round = DNF. You earn your score with every single stroke you make, not an equation designed to make handicaps more fair/accurate for everyone.
Personally, I don't even think about ESC until posting...
Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:21 PM
Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:27 PM
I believe people are saying if you don't complete a hole, don't claim a score. Nevertheless post one, adjusted as appropriate.
Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:03 PM
Yes, this is correct. If you didn't complete a hole, you did not finish your round. However, you're also required to post an ESC or adjusted score for handicap purposes. The ESC/adjusted score is not your score.
Its the same thing if only play 13 holes and walk off the course. If you played 13 holes, you're required to post an ESC score for handicapping, but that doesn't mean you actually shot whatever you ESC/adjusted score came out to be.