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#1 Nspiel58

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:37 PM

A lot of posts on MacGregor lately, so I had to show photos of my 60s.  These appear to have been very lightly played and only have superficial scratches.  They have a "3" on the shaft, making them a little too flexible for me, for now - maybe more appropriate when I get to 60.  What is unique about them is the neck which is oblong in shape.  Any reason for that?

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:47 PM

Very nice. Always loved that series...
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:17 PM

The oblong neck you describe is probably the "swan neck" which MacGregor put on eye-0-matic and Super eye-0-matic model M-65's which were built around a softer " senior or stylists" shaft.  I don't recall seeing it in the catalogs for eye 60's or Velociitized woods. But it would be consistent.
I have absolutely no idea why they used it on those models and not others. Yet another m&m ...MacGregor mystery.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:42 AM

Beautiful Neil !

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:21 AM

Dave Wood could tell us the history, but wasn't it supposed to add strength to the neck?

BTW---my Wood Bros Texan/ Eye-O-Matic 60 insert for Seve doesn't have a swan neck.

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Edited by Texsport, 09 January 2013 - 10:22 AM.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:50 AM

The crucial operation in any wood club is necking. Without proper application, the club can easily be ruined. The swan neck on a ladie's club ( which a pt3 is) was even more difficult because of the small amount of wood in the taper. Most persimmon necks would easily crack if struck in the neck side of center. Swan necks were only on better clubs . Pt stood for penna tourney. Three was a softer shaft and thinner grips. The clubs were also shorter

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:57 AM

These are the "firing pin" woods, with that aluminum rod through the insert that also shows in the back. I wonder if the shape of the club and neck was made to accomodate that feature? I have a set missing the driver. They seemed to match up well with FC4000 irons since they were from roughly the same years to make an early 60s set.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 02:34 PM

Thanks for the very interesting comments/information on the woods.  The grips are thinner as Charlie points out.  It's nice to know my wife now has a beatiful set of persimmon woods to play.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:41 PM

Swan necks go way back too - I think some of the late 1920s/early 1930s MacGregor Chieftan model woods
had a version of the swan neck as well.

In the period of the Chieftan woods above - I think part of the selling point was the fact that the clubs
were superior in content/make (they used real ivory etc), but were marketed in general as "streamlined". I
would assume streamlined was considered technologically superior.

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:33 PM

I have a set of eye-o-matic-80's. What does the 80s vs the 60s mean?

Driver - Mac Jimmy Demaret, Apex 5 Shaft
2 Wood - Mac Jimmy Deraret, TT Dynamic Stiff
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 06:25 PM

View Postbaloo, on 25 January 2017 - 01:33 PM, said:

I have a set of eye-o-matic-80's. What does the 80s vs the 60s mean?

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Are there any pictures of your Eye-O-Matic 80s?

Edited by rex235, 25 January 2017 - 06:26 PM.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:59 PM

View Postrex235, on 25 January 2017 - 06:25 PM, said:

View Postbaloo, on 25 January 2017 - 01:33 PM, said:

I have a set of eye-o-matic-80's. What does the 80s vs the 60s mean?

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Are there any pictures of your Eye-O-Matic 80s?

I must be going crazy having hit my 27th year in life and all. Turns out they are the 60s. Same as the OP's except I have the PT2 rather than the PT3 and different grips. Also, not in as good of condition as the OP's.
Driver - Mac Jimmy Demaret, Apex 5 Shaft
2 Wood - Mac Jimmy Deraret, TT Dynamic Stiff
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:39 PM

The Eye-O-Matic 60 and PT series had the same aluminum bullseye in fiber insert - red or black fiber.

That insert was one of Seve's favorites.

He commissioned Wood Bros to make him 2 or 3 Texans with black fiber - I have one.

I once followed Seve during an entire practice round at the Houston Open and he was hitting a club with that insert.

A European collector recently offered me a club like this, a PT1, which he claimed was Seve's but there was no written province, so I passed.

These inserts, as well as the SS1 Eye-O-Matic, have the center dowel screwed deep into the head. Usually the dowels are cut off behind the insert during refinishing - ruining the integrity of the club.

This complex structure was also why MacGregor discontinued them after only a few years.

Very solid feel at impact -

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Edited by Texsport, 25 January 2017 - 11:40 PM.

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 02:34 AM

View PostTexsport, on 25 January 2017 - 11:39 PM, said:

The Eye-O-Matic 60 and PT series had the same aluminum bullseye in fiber insert - red or black fiber.

That insert was one of Seve's favorites.

He commissioned Wood Bros to make him 2 or 3 Texans with black fiber - I have one.

I once followed Seve during an entire practice round at the Houston Open and he was hitting a club with that insert.

A European collector recently offered me a club like this, a PT1, which he claimed was Seve's but there was no written province, so I passed.

These inserts, as well as the SS1 Eye-O-Matic, have the center dowel screwed deep into the head. Usually the dowels are cut off behind the insert during refinishing - ruining the integrity of the club.

This complex structure was also why MacGregor discontinued them after only a few years.

Very solid feel at impact -

Texsport

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Oh yes....

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MacGregor made LH ones as well...These are the '61 "Big M" Tourneys.. Have Eye-O-Matic '60s too.

Edited by rex235, 26 January 2017 - 02:37 AM.


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 07:45 AM

Rex those are some sweet looking sticks even if there on the wrong side 😄.  It's amazing the craftsmen that Macgregor had for all those years and very sad that they aren't a real golf company any longer.  It seems to me that as far as early American golf companies Wilson is really the lone survivor, right?


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:16 AM

I'm also a big fan of the firing pin insert woods. Great sound and feel at impact.
And if you play persimmon, you're my friend

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:32 AM

I have a 1961 big M, MT2W 5 wood. Has the original medium firm Pro-Pel shaft. I match it up with a 1952 M75 Tourney Driver and 3 wood that have Hogan Apex 4 shafts installed. Great set of weapons. That firing pin insert makes that little 5 wood rock! One of the most solid feeling fairway woods I have ever played.
I have 2 MT2W three woods and a Joe Powell PT1W driver, all have that insert. I don't play them  because the shafts in them and I don't get along. Mike

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 11:58 AM

View Postgolfmj228, on 26 January 2017 - 07:45 AM, said:

Rex those are some sweet looking sticks even if there on the wrong side ��.  It's amazing the craftsmen that Macgregor had for all those years and very sad that they aren't a real golf company any longer.  It seems to me that as far as early American golf companies Wilson is really the lone survivor, right?

mj-

PING is still around, though they never made Persimmon woods.

Wilson "corporate decisions", and one of them involved NOT making some LH forged models...the FG 59 and Tour 100 irons.

By the way, since you mentioned it...

1) It isn't how....it's how many.

2) A round object has an infinite number of sides.  

3) What side of the ball are left handed golfers on? Stick our your right arm.... :taunt:

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 07:15 PM

Rex, agreed Ping is still around and a great company!  Relatively speaking they are young compared to Wilson (and if Spalding and Macgregor were still with us).  Funny enough I've only played forged (mostly blades) for the last 15-20 years but my email address is pingmanmj.  When I worked in golf Ping was just great to work with and they really do (IMHO) have a very high quality product, unfortunately other than the Spalding Top-Flite Tours I just never got along with a cast club.  And finally LOL I just always have to bust chops on any lefties because I have a brother that's a lefty, you'll always be on the "incorrect" side of the ball to me 😂😂

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 01:50 AM

View Postgolfmj228, on 26 January 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

Rex, agreed Ping is still around and a great company!  Relatively speaking they are young compared to Wilson (and if Spalding and Macgregor were still with us).  Funny enough I've only played forged (mostly blades) for the last 15-20 years but my email address is pingmanmj.  When I worked in golf Ping was just great to work with and they really do (IMHO) have a very high quality product, unfortunately other than the Spalding Top-Flite Tours I just never got along with a cast club.  And finally LOL I just always have to bust chops on any lefties because I have a brother that's a lefty, you'll always be on the "incorrect" side of the ball to me 😂😂

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Figured as much.  

As you can tell by the photos,  there are no worries on my end regarding equipment....

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 07:38 AM

"She's a beaut Clark", seriously you guys always make me jealous with the pics!

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