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#1 andimon1

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:41 PM

As an artist and graphic designer, I have to say it.  The recently released 2013 woods from TM, Adams, Nike, and a few others look distracting at address.  In my opinion, color and graphics should be absent from the crown because of their impact to mentally distract from a proper preswing setup. This where I think Ping has won over, their designers get it.


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:45 PM

Oh man, you are going to catch some flak now!






.........and I agree with you 1000%
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:47 PM

you are wrong to assume performance has anything to do with 95% of club sales
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:48 PM

And there are others who will suggest that they are grateful for the alignment feature that is inherent in those crown graphics.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:49 PM

Small alignment aid is ok.


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:57 PM

View Postandimon1, on 03 January 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

As an artist and graphic designer, I have to say it.  The recently released 2013 woods from TM, Adams, Nike, and a few others look distracting at address.  In my opinion, color and graphics should be absent from the crown because of their impact to mentally distract from a proper preswing setup. This where I think Ping has won over, their designers get it.


I agree.  I love the crown on the ping and callaway woods this year.  Simple and good looking, imo.  I feel a G25, Anser, RFE, and X hot pro driver shootout for me this year...or one Cally and one ping driver... Since I be a club ho...
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:59 PM

View Postandimon1, on 03 January 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

Small alignment aid is ok.
Some think a bigger alignment aid is better.
I think these clubs will blow out the door.
And many of the ones complaining about white and big graphics are the same ones who will buy it. Just like when white first came out and it was immediately dismissed as  a marketing disaster. White is everywhere you look, now. This new disaster will be no different.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:03 PM

Ping has nothing on Titleist, Callaway, Cobra, Mizuno, and other companies that don't have graphics on the head of their clubs. Your diatribe reads like a Ping fanboy rant.

Edited by KILLEDBYASHANKEDWEDGE, 03 January 2013 - 01:04 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:05 PM

I have never owned a Ping club in my life.


View PostKILLEDBYASHANKEDWEDGE, on 03 January 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

Ping has nothing on Titleist, Callaway, Cobra, Mizuno, and other companies that don't have graphics on the head of their clubs. Your diatribe reads like a Ping fanboy rant.


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:05 PM

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:06 PM

haha, perfect.


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:07 PM

View Postandimon1, on 03 January 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

I have never owned a Ping club in my life.


View PostKILLEDBYASHANKEDWEDGE, on 03 January 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

Ping has nothing on Titleist, Callaway, Cobra, Mizuno, and other companies that don't have graphics on the head of their clubs. Your diatribe reads like a Ping fanboy rant.

Odds are you haven't demoed the clubs you disparage too.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:18 PM

View PostKILLEDBYASHANKEDWEDGE, on 03 January 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:

View Postandimon1, on 03 January 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

I have never owned a Ping club in my life.


View PostKILLEDBYASHANKEDWEDGE, on 03 January 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

Ping has nothing on Titleist, Callaway, Cobra, Mizuno, and other companies that don't have graphics on the head of their clubs. Your diatribe reads like a Ping fanboy rant.

Odds are you haven't demoed the clubs you disparage too.

Honestly, outside of mentioning crown graphics from pics, he didn't mention performance.   Any of those clubs noted could shoot mach 3 fireballs off face leaving giant vapor trails, which would have everybody playing them.  Regardless, it was just an opinion about aesthetics.  To each their own... Personally, not a fan of white clubs with graphics, but I could very well end up with Adams' new driver this year, because I have the fast 12 LS bagged this year, and it is a beast...
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:44 PM

I agree with the OP.

I prefer a plain crown, but don't mind a bit small amount of graphic around the edge, like on the R11s or the X Hot, but TM have taken it too far with their 2013 range in my opinion. The 2013 RBZ is just about passable, but the R1 is a mess. Whoever thought it would be a good idea to place a swoosh on the crown of the new Covert driver deserves to be sacked.


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:48 PM

Ping got it right again this year, and now I find myself fighting not to buy the G25...

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

As I said in another thread, I can't imagine these companies don't do focus groups, etc., regarding the looks of their clubs.

Personally I really like the looks of the G25 line-up. I think it's the best of the bunch.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:52 PM

These guys know what they're doing..... Remember when white was the nastiest thing ever put on a driver head?

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:52 PM

Resistance is futile.

TM Fanboys and TMWRX Reps will assumulate you.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:52 PM

My Mizuno has no graphics. My PING G10 doesn't either, except that it does. It has little faint circles that look kind of stupid in the right (i.e. wrong) light.

Edited by ABgolfer2, 03 January 2013 - 01:53 PM.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:58 PM

Less is more?

Form follows function?


...it's just TM trying to get earned media attention  ...and it's working. If you brought this driver head to a theory based graphic design university the profs could explain why there are million$s$s of reasons why TM should be adding graphics to the crowns. Traditional marketing (purchased) has become cliche and easily ignored. Earned media is where it's at (getting news outlets, PGA TV announcers and the public talking on their own).

My personal opinion on the overall design layout of the crown graphics is that they are fashionable -- meaning people may like them now, but they are not timeless. Then again golf clubs are disposable products, so why would TM care if they look cool in a few years. The sporty, techy, asymmetrical form and color style is trendy right now, so TM jumped at it.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:43 PM

I agree it helps in alignment...question though...do you aim the flames at the target line or parallel to the target line?  I now know what to get my uncle for his birthday...I can get him a driver that matches his 1974 camaro!  I keed, I keed, but seriously, chalk me up in the barf category.

I guess it had to be done though, what else is left?

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:51 PM

View Postandimon1, on 03 January 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

As an artist and graphic designer, I have to say it.  The recently released 2013 woods from TM, Adams, Nike, and a few others look distracting at address.  In my opinion, color and graphics should be absent from the crown because of their impact to mentally distract from a proper preswing setup. This where I think Ping has won over, their designers get it.

you realize black is a color right?
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:53 PM

Last time I checked I wasnt looking at the crown of my driver while taking it back
or at the back of my irons while at address .....

just sayin ....
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:58 PM

I dabble in oil painting and usually like the traditional stuff.  But I respect what Adams, Nike and even TM is doing.  Sign of the times...
Back in the day golfers used a few sets for life.  Like finalist said, clubs are like toys and apparel-- in vogue one moment and disposed the next.  
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:59 PM

View PostNaughty Mazz, on 03 January 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

View Postandimon1, on 03 January 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

As an artist and graphic designer, I have to say it.  The recently released 2013 woods from TM, Adams, Nike, and a few others look distracting at address.  In my opinion, color and graphics should be absent from the crown because of their impact to mentally distract from a proper preswing setup. This where I think Ping has won over, their designers get it.

you realize black is a color right?

I dunno, a physics teacher once told me black is the absence of color, but my graphic visualization teacher said black is a color because it's a molecular coloring agent and white is not a color, but my daughter said black is a color because it comes in the Crayon box. However! all three people agreed the new TM drivers are ugly.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:00 PM

View PostNaughty Mazz, on 03 January 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

View Postandimon1, on 03 January 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

As an artist and graphic designer, I have to say it.  The recently released 2013 woods from TM, Adams, Nike, and a few others look distracting at address.  In my opinion, color and graphics should be absent from the crown because of their impact to mentally distract from a proper preswing setup. This where I think Ping has won over, their designers get it.

you realize black is a color right?

It's not in the electromagnetic spectrum because it absorbs all light that shines on it, so it's a shade, not a color.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

View PostNaughty Mazz, on 03 January 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

View Postandimon1, on 03 January 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

As an artist and graphic designer, I have to say it.  The recently released 2013 woods from TM, Adams, Nike, and a few others look distracting at address.  In my opinion, color and graphics should be absent from the crown because of their impact to mentally distract from a proper preswing setup. This where I think Ping has won over, their designers get it.

you realize black is a color right?


No it absorbs all light.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:04 PM

View Postfinalist, on 03 January 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

View PostNaughty Mazz, on 03 January 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

View Postandimon1, on 03 January 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

As an artist and graphic designer, I have to say it.  The recently released 2013 woods from TM, Adams, Nike, and a few others look distracting at address.  In my opinion, color and graphics should be absent from the crown because of their impact to mentally distract from a proper preswing setup. This where I think Ping has won over, their designers get it.

you realize black is a color right?

I dunno, a physics teacher once told me black is the absence of color, but my graphic visualization teacher said black is a color because it's a molecular coloring agent and white is not a color, but my daughter said black is a color because it comes in the Crayon box. However! all three people agreed the new TM drivers are ugly.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:05 PM

View Postandimon1, on 03 January 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

As an artist and graphic designer, I have to say it.  The recently released 2013 woods from TM, Adams, Nike, and a few others look distracting at address.  In my opinion, color and graphics should be absent from the crown because of their impact to mentally distract from a proper preswing setup. This where I think Ping has won over, their designers get it.

Some,but not all,look at golf clubs as if they look good. It is the initial attraction to a club. Just as it is to a woman. You do not go for plane Jane all the time. You like a looker. Same concept.

Goes but the old saying "if you do not look good,you do not feel good".  I believe this is true to golf clubs. If you do not like the look you have no confidence. If you like the clubs looks it gives you just a bit of extra confidence. Which we all know confidence in golf you try and get as much as you can from anywhere.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:05 PM

Picasso's cubism and Warhol's pop paintings were all tacky to the average joe.  Now they are most expensive artworks sold.  Not easy to be ahead of the masses.


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