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Change is Difficult, but Glad I Made it! R11s to 913 D2


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#1 series10

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:54 AM

long time lurker, first time poster....

After gaming the R9/R11/R11s for a few years, I finally made the switch to the 913 D2.

Previous setup:  R9 super-Tri with Aldila Voodoo RSV6 in stiff flex.
R11 10.5 head w/same shaft.
R11s 9.5 w/Miyazaki Cua 59c Kua in stiff flex.

R9 - Clubhead was set closed.  Avg Distance off the tee 220-240 yds. with less than 50% fairways hit.  
R11 - Clubhead was set at -0.5 loft and C on the ASP.  With daily hand-bleeding practice and wonderful friends on the internet resources, I was able to dial my dispersion down to a consistent 60% fairways hit and an average carry of 220-230 yds with totals of 240-250 yds, depending on the ball.  240 yds if I used a high-spin, 3-piece ball like a Pro V1(x).  250 if I used a low-spin, 2-piece ball, like a Srixon Distance or AD333.  
R11s - Initially set to -.5 L-angle and C+ on the ASP and with some fine tuning on my backswing to make it more compact and single-planed, ended up adjusting my driver to -1 degree of loft and C on the ASP.  Same consistency on my fairways hit but my second shots from the rough were not as deep in the rough and made my greens-hit a little more manageable.  Saw a few strokes improvement, thanks mostly to this alone.  However, some credit has to be given to the increase in drive distance from 240-250 yds to 260-280.  With the same percentage of fairways hit and less dispersion, coupled with longer distances, I'd say that the R11s deserves a lot less flaming than it receives from some of the more senior members on this great forum.  I've seen 300+ yard drives with my most recent one being 320 on a par 4 where I greened it (it was a bonus par 4 1st).  

So why the switch?  
Every.  Single. Son-of-a-mother.  Butthole, hackjob of a monkey shows up to the first hole with a white driver in tow.  Snobby of me?  Oh you bet!  I can't stand it.  

Results from the switch:
- Picked up the 913 D2 last week and discovered that the driving range is fun again!  
The sound of the R11s on solid hits is ear-piercingly annoying, within the small confines of a range stall.  When I'm going through my progressions during my warmups (we don't have open-range practice grounds out here in Asia), I found that I was dreading getting closer to hitting my driver.  Then as soon as I got to my driver, I'd hit 5, maybe (maybe) 10 drives.  Dial it in as much as I can and move back down my bag.  Once in a while I'll practice situational shots, using driver, fairway wood, irons/wedges, etc.  Seems I've gotten off topic a bit.  
- Based on my completely unprofessional opinion, getting the ball to launch off the face of the 913 D2 is much more effortless than the R11s, which basically translates into not having to swing as hard.  Though this has in fact forced me to sacrifice significant amounts of yardage, this, in-turn has decreased my dispersion dramatically.  Perhaps when I become more comfortable with hitting the D2 I'll swing a little harder.  Had the clubhead at standard loft and lie (A1).  Haven't made it out to the CC's GC yet.  Sucks to be out here in South East Asia, where there are no LM's or anything remotely close.  Only way to find anything out is to test it on the course, any suggestions on testing are welcomed.  Or perhaps when I get a little more comfortable with hitting the D2 I'll swing a little harder.  Haven't been able to time my swing but my guess (flame suit on) is 110-115mph.  
- Happier with my driver's looks.  Though I can't knock the performance, marketing or asthetics of a white clubhead, it just seems that every some-momm-a-mother is showing up to the range and the course with a white driver in tow.  Despite what I've said about the performance of TM drivers, not one of these monkeys repping a white driver can hit the side of a barn!  Two thumbs up for TM's marketing and branding divisions for tricking the average fatthead into thinking that simply owning a white clubhead instantly turns that person into a good driver.  IMHO, it actually works against a bad golfer because hitting a more forgiveable driver is the only logical first step.  But I digress, the R11s is actually a pretty darn good club, and I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that I'd won two longest-drive competitions at my CC against some bombers with my R11s.  I guess I won't be seeing those long drives again until I can get more playing time in with my new D2.

Has anybody here who has made the switch from R11/R11s to 913 D2/D3 actually seen longer drives, or is the general concensus of findings consistent with mine?  Less distance with straighter shots?


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:54 AM

The COR of all drivers is limited and the length of all drivers are pretty the same.

You can gain an couple of yardages with the right loft and shaft.

And that´s all.

There is no mystic driver out there.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:50 AM

My 913 D2 is the longest, straightest driver that I have owned.

You didn't mention the shaft, loft, and setting on yours, so I can't comment.  I am playing a 9.5* head with the S+ shaft, stiff.  I ordered mine at 45-3/4.  My setting is C3; a little more loft and slightly closed.

The new shafts on the 913's are very good!
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:50 AM

Your driving distance with drivers

R9: 220-240
R11: 240-250
R11s: 260-280

correct? Just want to make sure I read that right
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:00 AM

What shaft did you go with in the 913 D2?  I have recently sold my R11s and am going to be buying the 913 Driver as soon as the 913 fairways are
available.  ( The OCD in me doesnt like playing mixed sets ).

I played the R11s all of 2012 but it just wasnt consistent enough for me.  It has great forgiviness and great distance but im going to go with constitency. I will be playing the RIP Phenom 70 and am going to try it at 44.5 inches.

Its good to hear im not the only person who jumped from the white side...


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:06 AM

View Postmweaver84, on 03 January 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

Your driving distance with drivers

R9: 220-240
R11: 240-250
R11s: 260-280

correct? Just want to make sure I read that right

A distance gain of 20-30 is irreproducible, expect the shaft was too stiff.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:45 AM

I made a switch from a fitted Burner 2.0 TP with Motore F1 shaft cut to 44" and now gaming a 910 d2.  Gained accuracy and yards for sure with the 910.  I was going to get the 913 but couldn't get any better numbers of the 910 so saved a few 100 bucks.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:24 PM

I jumped ship a couple of weeks ago as well and went from my beloved R11S to 913 D3. It's winter here in MN so I can only comment on the feel, sound, looks, and perceived launch angle from the indoor range I've been visiting.

Setup:
- R11S TP 10.5 with Phenom 65s, FCT on lowest (9.0 effective loft), ASP on Neutral, playing at 44.75" D2 swing weight.
- 913 D3 8.5 with Tour AD BB-6s, A1 setting, playing at 44.5" D3 swing weight.

Like the OP, my drives have gotten longer and longer with each new driver but I attribute that to 95% swing improvement, 5% equipment. Anyway, coming from a Burner, Burner 2.0, R11, R11S, and finally to the 913 D3...I can't speak enough about the excellent feel of the 913 driver head. It is fantastic in every way and beats out all my previous drivers in the feel category. I've hit an R11S with a Tour AD BB-6s so it's safe to say I've tried both setups with similar feeling shafts and the S does not compare....not even close. To me, while the S produced some amazing drives the head always felt a little like hitting a rock.

My few sessions at the indoor range comparing my two current drivers have resulted in me not even wanting to touch the R11S. Both have similar ball flight with the D3 just a tad lower and more penetrating (obviously due to its loft), but the D3 wins it all with (IMO) more appealing looks, feel, and sound.

Edited by coolmonk, 03 January 2013 - 12:26 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:29 PM

Gvogel, I put my current Miyazaki C. Kua 59s shaft onto my new D2 (current setting on D1).  
I took my driver back out onto the range last night and was able to dial in my distance a little bit more.  I'm noticing that if I keep my SS at 100-105mph(as measured a few years ago), I'm consistently carrying down the center at 210-220.  On that same note,  when I took more agressive swings I seem to have gotten back up to carrying 230-240 on just about most of my drives that didn't pull slightly to the left or push slightly to the right.  I still am amazed at how much more accurate this D2 is over the R11s.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:36 PM

View Postcoolmonk, on 03 January 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

I jumped ship a couple of weeks ago as well and went from my beloved R11S to 913 D3. It's winter here in MN so I can only comment on the feel, sound, looks, and perceived launch angle from the indoor range I've been visiting.

Setup:
- R11S TP 10.5 with Phenom 65s, FCT on lowest (9.0 effective loft), ASP on Neutral, playing at 44.75" D2 swing weight.
- 913 D3 8.5 with Tour AD BB-6s, A1 setting, playing at 44.5" D3 swing weight.

Like the OP, my drives have gotten longer and longer with each new driver but I attribute that to 95% swing improvement, 5% equipment. Anyway, coming from a Burner, Burner 2.0, R11, R11S, and finally to the 913 D3...I can't speak enough about the excellent feel of the 913 driver head. It is fantastic in every way and beats out all my previous drivers in the feel category. I've hit an R11S with a Tour AD BB-6s so it's safe to say I've tried both setups with similar feeling shafts and the S does not compare....not even close. To me, while the S produced some amazing drives the head always felt a little like hitting a rock.

My few sessions at the indoor range comparing my two current drivers have resulted in me not even wanting to touch the R11S. Both have similar ball flight with the D3 just a tad lower and more penetrating (obviously due to its loft), but the D3 wins it all with (IMO) more appealing looks, feel, and sound.

I was gonna go the GD Tour AD DI5s route but out here in south east asia those bad boys are extremely difficult to come by.
Looks-wise, you are absolutely right.  I still can't get over how much more comfortable I'm feeling over the ball at address with the 913.


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

Wow, 230 Avg with the R9, and you have had 300+ and a 320 yd drive with the R11S. You should be the poster child for TM! I expect to see you in the marketing campaign for the R1 driver.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:49 PM

View Post5 O, on 03 January 2013 - 09:41 PM, said:

Wow, 230 Avg with the R9, and you have had 300+ and a 320 yd drive with the R11S. You should be the poster child for TM! I expect to see you in the marketing campaign for the R1 driver.

I put in too much work on the practice range and at home, improving my swing over there years to give TM more credit than the company deserves.  The R9 could have arbitrarily been a Liquid Metal driver, Cleveland, etc.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:27 PM

If it was mostly the white, you could have painted it.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:39 PM

That is a good point, J26, but I'm no Picasso when it comes to jury-rigging my own equipment.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:57 PM

View Postseries10, on 03 January 2013 - 11:39 PM, said:

That is a good point, J26, but I'm no Picasso when it comes to jury-rigging my own equipment.
...and a painted R11S still won't feel or sound as good as a 913. My goodness I am obsessed with my D3!


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:20 AM

I won't lie, the sound of the 913 isn't as aggressive as the R11s on solid hits.  However, the solid hits on the 913 just seem to be more frequent.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:12 PM

I took this 913 D2 out for its first round yesterday and I am officially impressed.  Took me until after the front 9 to fully adjust to the differences between the 913 D2 and the TM R11s.  For one thing, my natural go-to shot with the TM-driver is a low baby fade, whereas with the D2 I couldn't get the ball to go right unless I actually pushed it.  Ok, so here are the semi-official results with my new driver.

Front 9, (driver setting D1) I shot a 7 over.  3/7 fairways hit with the 3 burning the left-edges of the FW while the other 3 were absolutely scary-left and 1 was pushed right.  My fairway and approach shots were decent, with more emphasis on having to get up and down from some pretty unusual spots.  Reason being that my new driver was hooking like a driver-possessed.  Same exact swing as I'd give it with my TM drivers, only this thing (D2) was just all over the left side of the map.  I was having to punch out, sting under tree branches and hit some approaches from difficult ball positions in the rough.  After the front 9, I thought, "screw it", abandon the D1 setting.  I hated having to do this because I was having so much fun with this setting on the range, hitting these high draw shots & all.  

So during a 5 minute lull in between the front 9 and the back, I took the club back to it's square A1-setting.  I figured I'd rebuild my confidence from there, since I was already staring at a pace of 14-over par..."what's the worst that could happen?".

Back 9's results:
6/7 FW's hit with the 1 being only 5 yards off the left edge of the fairway in the light rough.  I even had two bombs down the left center for 285 yards and a 60 degree wedge remaining on a par 4 and a 290 yard'er up a narrow fairway with 7-iron to go on the course' toughest hole, respectively.  My playing partners said I flipped the right "switch" but hated that I did that, and in more ways than one, I thought, "yeah, I did flip the right switch".  

My semi-final thoughts on making the switch from the TM-R11s to the Titleist 913 D2 and on my first round with the new club are as follows:
1.  Though I had already known this, I needed to be reminded that the driving range uses some "buster-a**" balls that don't really give some of the finer details of the potential that a club has, especially the long-stick.  I was clearly driving the ball well (straight) on the range with old balls, but just not as far as I would have liked.  Mint conditioned Srixon AD333's produced a completely different result out on the course.
2.  My new Titleist 913 D2 driver has just as much V12 Juice to get the ball up in the air while screaming in pain as my R11s did.  The difference is that this 913 D2 has enormous amounts of consistency and forgiveness over the "white" club head.  Yeah, I said it.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:20 PM

I'm jealous...I have to wait 4 more months before teeing it up.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:27 PM

I just jumped ship also.  Ditched my R11 and went to the 913d3.  I should have mine by Monday.  I cant wait to start using it.  Living in the High Desert has its advantages, year round golf.  The 913 felt much more forgiving than the R11 ever has.  I really enjoyed the over all feel and that is what swayed me to sell my R11.  This is my first Titleist club so Im curious to see if this sways me to get rid of all my TM stuff.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:54 AM

I have a 913 and it's Good. I will play myntitleist stuff more as it just feels better.


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