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[Nessism]

ddamron, on 01 January 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

This may or may not be the place for this but Im curious about transactions., After agreeing to pay the listed price and a deal being reached, I asked for his paypal info. A few minutes later he asks for 20 bucks more because someone else had offered more. The original post didnt state obo... I feel as though people should stick to their word.. This isnt ebay. Honesty and accountability is a big thing with me and I feel as though I was wronged... I have private messages to prove my stance... Help? or someone just tell me tuff crap...

So what happened to the deal?

[wetdogsmell]

practicetee, on 02 January 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

Just to be clear, this was all over a couple minute span, right?  

If that's the case he should have honored the price you two agreed upon, provided that you send paypal before the other person.  There are a lot of people who will say they will buy an item on here that just disappear once a deal is reached, hence why I like stipulating that the first person to Paypal gets the item when I sell [I am in no way saying you are one of them btw].

I have seen this before but doesn't this potentially lead to more than one buyer sending $$ to your paypal acct? Do you just refund any additional payments? I prefer to go the route of PM confirmation with the seller before sending any money because of not knowing how this would get resolved... Kind of off topic...

[hayzooos]

wetdogsmell, on 03 January 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

practicetee, on 02 January 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

Just to be clear, this was all over a couple minute span, right?  

If that's the case he should have honored the price you two agreed upon, provided that you send paypal before the other person.  There are a lot of people who will say they will buy an item on here that just disappear once a deal is reached, hence why I like stipulating that the first person to Paypal gets the item when I sell [I am in no way saying you are one of them btw].

I have seen this before but doesn't this potentially lead to more than one buyer sending $$ to your paypal acct? Do you just refund any additional payments? I prefer to go the route of PM confirmation with the seller before sending any money because of not knowing how this would get resolved... Kind of off topic...

I've thought about this as well. I wouldn't want a bunch of people sending me money to PayPal. Can you just refund the money without any fees associated with it? I know that's what I would do if I were the seller, but that doesn't mean other people have the same standards.

[mister2cool]

hayzooos, on 03 January 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

wetdogsmell, on 03 January 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

practicetee, on 02 January 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

Just to be clear, this was all over a couple minute span, right?  

If that's the case he should have honored the price you two agreed upon, provided that you send paypal before the other person.  There are a lot of people who will say they will buy an item on here that just disappear once a deal is reached, hence why I like stipulating that the first person to Paypal gets the item when I sell [I am in no way saying you are one of them btw].

I have seen this before but doesn't this potentially lead to more than one buyer sending $$ to your paypal acct? Do you just refund any additional payments? I prefer to go the route of PM confirmation with the seller before sending any money because of not knowing how this would get resolved... Kind of off topic...

I've thought about this as well. I wouldn't want a bunch of people sending me money to PayPal. Can you just refund the money without any fees associated with it? I know that's what I would do if I were the seller, but that doesn't mean other people have the same standards.

Yes refund would include all fees that were charged. It would still be a messy situation IMHO. I would stick to making a deal and then get money.

Raising price after an agreement is a big NO NO however!!!! Should have told the "new buyer" that you appreciate the generous offer but the item has been sold.

[practicetee]

mister2cool, on 03 January 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

hayzooos, on 03 January 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

wetdogsmell, on 03 January 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

practicetee, on 02 January 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

Just to be clear, this was all over a couple minute span, right?  

If that's the case he should have honored the price you two agreed upon, provided that you send paypal before the other person.  There are a lot of people who will say they will buy an item on here that just disappear once a deal is reached, hence why I like stipulating that the first person to Paypal gets the item when I sell [I am in no way saying you are one of them btw].

I have seen this before but doesn't this potentially lead to more than one buyer sending $$ to your paypal acct? Do you just refund any additional payments? I prefer to go the route of PM confirmation with the seller before sending any money because of not knowing how this would get resolved... Kind of off topic...

I've thought about this as well. I wouldn't want a bunch of people sending me money to PayPal. Can you just refund the money without any fees associated with it? I know that's what I would do if I were the seller, but that doesn't mean other people have the same standards.

Yes refund would include all fees that were charged. It would still be a messy situation IMHO. I would stick to making a deal and then get money.

Raising price after an agreement is a big NO NO however!!!! Should have told the "new buyer" that you appreciate the generous offer but the item has been sold.

I've never really had it come down to that, honestly.  Usually when I tell someone I'll accept their offer but need the funds pronto that it lights a fire and they send payment immediately, at which time I tell the other member that was interested that the item has since been sold.  I've just had too many people over the past couple months say they'll take an item and then disappear to not take every opportunity I can to get an item sold, sort of like 1 in the hand vs 2 in the bush.

I've only had to refund a payment once, when I just didn't trust a buyer and decided to be safe rather than sorry and they got their money back immediately.

I am in no way, in any circumstance, advocating a bidding war.  I'm usually thrilled that someone actually wants something I'm selling that I wouldn't want to scare them away with a bidding war.

[hayzooos]

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Just to be clear, this was all over a couple minute span, right?  

If that's the case he should have honored the price you two agreed upon, provided that you send paypal before the other person.  There are a lot of people who will say they will buy an item on here that just disappear once a deal is reached, hence why I like stipulating that the first person to Paypal gets the item when I sell [I am in no way saying you are one of them btw].
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I have seen this before but doesn't this potentially lead to more than one buyer sending $$ to your paypal acct? Do you just refund any additional payments? I prefer to go the route of PM confirmation with the seller before sending any money because of not knowing how this would get resolved... Kind of off topic...
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I've thought about this as well. I wouldn't want a bunch of people sending me money to PayPal. Can you just refund the money without any fees associated with it? I know that's what I would do if I were the seller, but that doesn't mean other people have the same standards.
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Yes refund would include all fees that were charged. It would still be a messy situation IMHO. I would stick to making a deal and then get money.

Raising price after an agreement is a big NO NO however!!!! Should have told the "new buyer" that you appreciate the generous offer but the item has been sold.
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I've never really had it come down to that, honestly.  Usually when I tell someone I'll accept their offer but need the funds pronto that it lights a fire and they send payment immediately, at which time I tell the other member that was interested that the item has since been sold.  I've just had too many people over the past couple months say they'll take an item and then disappear to not take every opportunity I can to get an item sold, sort of like 1 in the hand vs 2 in the bush.

I've only had to refund a payment once, when I just didn't trust a buyer and decided to be safe rather than sorry and they got their money back immediately.

I am in no way, in any circumstance, advocating a bidding war.  I'm usually thrilled that someone actually wants something I'm selling that I wouldn't want to scare them away with a bidding war.
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I think I made a mistake reading your OP. When you said "first person to PayPal" I was thinking you put your PayPal addy in the ad and then people just started throwing money into it. Like making it rain into your PP account, you know? I'm guessing you still do things via PM so you'd only be dealing with 2-3 guys at a time. I guess you could still run into this situation, but it would be minimal, like you said.

[ddamron]

Ok guys I appreciate the responses.. Im choosing not to out him. He has had a few deals on here and I didnt see any bad feedback. The deal was for a certain item, I agreed to pay the price he was asking and at that time he told me he would include another item since I was willing to pay full price for the more expensive of the items.  After agreeing to the deal I asked for his paypal info and at that time I received a message asking for 20 dollars more. I then told him I would just take the first item and I didnt get a response, after several messages he tells me the items were sold for a higher price... I was livid... I sent a message that I regret, telling him what I thought of him and never heard back.

Im fine now, I just would never do that to someone and I wouldnt think that anyone on this site would do that either. I love this site and my wife hates it..lol...
Hopefully this doesnt happen again and if I see that it does, at that time I will release his name and the messages.

[ddamron]

Sorry for the late reply btw... Been a very busy couple of days with kids going back to school and a short work week... If anyone has anymore questions feel free to pm or reply here..

Once again thanks for the help everyone.

[lander215]

He should be outed, now there's a scumbag still selling on the bst.

[J.W.]

I don't think you should out him personally, just block him and move on.  There have been multiple times where I accepted an offer and shortly after been offered more but once you agree to the deal you need to stick to your word.  I was pretty salty with myself when I took $50 off a $250 item and then literally 3 minutes later someone offered me full boat.  My new biggest gripe is the WTB section which has become brutal but that's another thread.

Edited by J.W., 03 January 2013 - 09:31 PM.

[KaBoom21]

Pure weasel move on his part.

[justhackin]

I would out him for sure.

About three months ago I made a offer on an ebay item and they accepted. Less than 10 minutes later I found the item was posted on the  BST for $20 less. I still paid the ebay price though since I agreed to when I placed the offer and the seller accepted. In no way would I have not paid for the ebay item.

Out him!!!

hackin