Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:23 AM
No problem re: the pics, I like to debate, it's fun, clearly you seem reluctant. I'll concede that the cavity of the ke4's looks similar to the Adam's mid and short irons and the finish looks similar. Note the Adams are a blended set, hybrids in the long irons, hybrid/irons or driving iron like in the mid irons and short irons (hybrid set), and cavity backs in the short irons (forged set). Look at the specs of the ke4's and they are have a constant offset of .125, which is 3.175 mm, what I would consider moderate; note the adams are listed as progressive offset. So all of the ke4's are a hybrid/iron or driving iron throughout the whole set. So from a design standpoint they are different, not a blended set, the sole width, blade length and topline will all be very similar. The adams will not be, with hybrids having onset where the leading edge is ahead of the hosel/shaft, the sole width will be much wider, and the face profile is more like a fwy. wood, all different than the ke4's. On the forged set the 8-gw will be more like a traditional cavity back with much different specs in the sole width and the face profile will be closer to a traditional iron w/ a higher toe height which will be different than the hybrid and hybrid iron where the toe height will be shorter. I'm sure the mid-hybrids will look similar and have similar profiles, but Adams does not post detailed specs on their clubs like Golfworks does, so it's near impossible to know for sure, but be rest assured there will be differences in blade length, topline, sole width, groove design, sole design, color scheme, weight, loft, lie. The ke4's have a toe weight to adjust for swingweight, none of the v3's do. Lastly the names are completely different, note that clones are typically named something that sounds similar, the maltby and ke4 names have been around a while, and I know of no other line called the mp-1, but ??
IMO and bottom line is that you have to do more than look at a cavity and finish and say it looks similar and then say it's a glorified clone.
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jmvargas, on 09 January 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:
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