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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:39 AM

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:17 PM

#xhotSAUCE

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:42 PM

Hmm - mix me a set of X-Hot 3 / 4 / 5 irons - pro 5 / 6 / 7 and forged 7 - PW please. (extra 5 and 7 iron for extra versatility in conditions and courses)

Edited by courtgolf, 17 December 2012 - 04:43 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:43 PM

The Tours look pretty good, but I just dont get the point in making the lofts so strong, is it because everyone is so obsessed with knocking it 190 with a 7 iron?
This practise is going to create another problem, average golfers not being able to hit a 5 iron straight as it's actually not far off a traditionally lofted 3iron. Oh well at least hybrid sales will increse!
Surely this also creates problems with short iron yardages/ gaps?

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:44 PM

Really liking those Pro's. Nice pics and info!

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:48 PM

Those Pros look pretty good.  I would love to game a set of PW-7i forged and then 6i-4i Pros.  Would be nice!

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:00 PM

 Chris Austin, on 17 December 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

The Tours look pretty good, but I just dont get the point in making the lofts so strong, is it because everyone is so obsessed with knocking it 190 with a 7 iron?
This practise is going to create another problem, average golfers not being able to hit a 5 iron straight as it's actually not far off a traditionally lofted 3iron. Oh well at least hybrid sales will increse!
Surely this also creates problems with short iron yardages/ gaps?

I think what it boils down to is simply the manufacturers are able to get the ball to launch higher with the same loft as a club from 20 years ago. In order to adjust for that, they lower the lofts. The guys that went on the TM trip talked about this and referred to it as a "launch window". It makes sense considering how much things have improved over the past 20 years.

I haven't found it to cause problems with gaping. The bag might "look" a little funny, but if you know how far you hit each club, what it says on the bottom doesn't make a big difference. For example, when we were in Carlsbad hitting these, from longest to shortest, I went with a 17* XHP fairway wood, 16* XHP hybrid, then an 18* X Utility. Sure, the lofts say they're only a degree a part, but all three of those are very different clubs. Because of that, they all go different distances.

The wood went around 240-245, the hybrid going around 225-230, X Utility going around 210-215 and the 4 iron was going around 200-205.

The 7 iron in the XHP probably goes about 165-170 (I hit within 3' of a 175 laser sighted pin with a little downwind helping), the 9 is probably right around 145-150, PW will probably be about 130-135, followed up by my gap wedge (52*). If I hit a full gap wedge, it'll travel around 115.

So what if I'm 125 away from a pin? Simple...take a little off a PW. I don't know anyone who takes a constant (choose your percentage here, 80%, 100%) shot every time they step in front of a ball.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:02 PM

Awesome video to match with awesome clubs!!!  Way to go Zak!  Lock it up!

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:27 PM

Pro version looks pretty good.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:30 PM

Very nice looking irons. Callaway, it seems, will have a very good line-up for 2013.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:30 PM

Did they clean these up a bit from some of the original spy shots? They have more “POP!” than I remember…

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:44 PM

 Chris Austin, on 17 December 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

The Tours look pretty good, but I just dont get the point in making the lofts so strong, is it because everyone is so obsessed with knocking it 190 with a 7 iron?
This practise is going to create another problem, average golfers not being able to hit a 5 iron straight as it's actually not far off a traditionally lofted 3iron. Oh well at least hybrid sales will increse!
Surely this also creates problems with short iron yardages/ gaps?

It's all marketing.  PT Barnum said, "You will never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."  Make longer clubs with stronger lofts - but the number on the bottom is still the same - and people will think they are hitting the ball farther.  Doesn't matter that their new pitching wedge used to be their 9 or even 8 iron.  Most people don't notice and don't care...and still can't hit anything longer than their old 5 iron.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:45 PM

The current Razr X Tour is a great iron - never understood why it wasn't more popular, awesome feel and super distance and control.  Maybe the cosmetics turned people off?  It's the best feeling non-forged iron I've ever hit.

X Hot Pro looks like an excellent update - with the Razr X Tour's DNA I'm not surprised the guys that went on the trip liked it so much.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:09 PM

These are really good looking irons.  The XHP could very easily find a new home in my bag in 2013.  Thanks for the pics and write up.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:17 PM

Only problem with the xhot pro irons is the grooves.  It is hard to keep those tight spaced grooves completely clean.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:36 PM

 SheriffBooth, on 17 December 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

The current Razr X Tour is a great iron - never understood why it wasn't more popular, awesome feel and super distance and control.  Maybe the cosmetics turned people off?  It's the best feeling non-forged iron I've ever hit.

X Hot Pro looks like an excellent update - with the Razr X Tour's DNA I'm not surprised the guys that went on the trip liked it so much.

Agreed. I think they mostly were looked over due to an utter lack of pizazz. They were just entirely muted in looks and the weight bar on the back didn't really scream "I have tech built in". They weren't techie looking enough to nab the SGI/GI crowd nor clean enough to get the GI/players crowd. The change to the stark red X and the clean chrome in the Pro line really cleans them up and gives them the bit of eye candy they lacked before.

Really digging the Pro version there. They'll definately be worth a hit or three to see what's what.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:46 PM

It is a bit interesting that the general consensus is the irons are a bit tame lacking pizzazz, which is funny as normally we are complaining just the opposite.  I think they look pretty good myself.  I would love to compare the XHot Pro's to the RBladez Tour.  I wonder what the up charge is to get PXi in them?
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:49 PM

Looks nice. I might try the pros soon!

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:53 PM

Nicely done Zak.  Very well done.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:07 PM

 courtgolf, on 17 December 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

 Chris Austin, on 17 December 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

The Tours look pretty good, but I just dont get the point in making the lofts so strong, is it because everyone is so obsessed with knocking it 190 with a 7 iron?
This practise is going to create another problem, average golfers not being able to hit a 5 iron straight as it's actually not far off a traditionally lofted 3iron. Oh well at least hybrid sales will increse!
Surely this also creates problems with short iron yardages/ gaps?

It's all marketing.  PT Barnum said, "You will never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."  Make longer clubs with stronger lofts - but the number on the bottom is still the same - and people will think they are hitting the ball farther.  Doesn't matter that their new pitching wedge used to be their 9 or even 8 iron.  Most people don't notice and don't care...and still can't hit anything longer than their old 5 iron.

There is SO much more going on with these irons than just the lofts and length of the shafts. The lengths are unchanged from before. The tech behind the improved ballspeed is really cool. Really cool actually. Callaway is on to something.


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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:16 PM

 PingDrv00, on 17 December 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

It is a bit interesting that the general consensus is the irons are a bit tame lacking pizzazz, which is funny as normally we are complaining just the opposite.  I think they look pretty good myself.  I would love to compare the XHot Pro's to the RBladez Tour.  I wonder what the up charge is to get PXi in them?

These are are super clean at address, and PACK a PUNCH due to the updated head tech. Really great stuff. Doc Hock showed up info and spoke to these.  Really some awesome stuff going on with these.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:20 PM

Those Pros look divine.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:24 PM

i could honestly play either the x hot pro or the x forged irons this coming year..shame on you callaway for making my decision
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:45 PM

so basically with what I'm seeing with the two new irons was Callaway was like hey, the AP1 and the AP2 are pretty popular, lets copy those exactly and put a red X on the back that way people have no idea we stole the idea. Oh, and to hide it even more, we wont even forge then, we will go the cheaper route like we always do and make them cast. No wonder why Phil is gaming a RBZ...

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:51 PM

 JeremyGarvey12, on 17 December 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

so basically with what I'm seeing with the two new irons was Callaway was like hey, the AP1 and the AP2 are pretty popular, lets copy those exactly and put a red X on the back that way people have no idea we stole the idea. Oh, and to hide it even more, we wont even forge then, we will go the cheaper route like we always do and make them cast. No wonder why Phil is gaming a RBZ...

Callaway has offered an X iron and X Tour iron for YEARS.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:28 PM

Can you comment on the sole, bounce, and leading edge design on the PROS?
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:44 PM

 JeremyGarvey12, on 17 December 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

so basically with what I'm seeing with the two new irons was Callaway was like hey, the AP1 and the AP2 are pretty popular, lets copy those exactly and put a red X on the back that way people have no idea we stole the idea. Oh, and to hide it even more, we wont even forge then, we will go the cheaper route like we always do and make them cast. No wonder why Phil is gaming a RBZ...
please back up the copy claim with some hard evidence. A hunch isn't enough.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:48 PM

 JeremyGarvey12, on 17 December 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

so basically with what I'm seeing with the two new irons was Callaway was like hey, the AP1 and the AP2 are pretty popular, lets copy those exactly and put a red X on the back that way people have no idea we stole the idea. Oh, and to hide it even more, we wont even forge then, we will go the cheaper route like we always do and make them cast. No wonder why Phil is gaming a RBZ...

They look nothing like the AP1 and AP2, so I am bit confused?
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:52 PM

 PingDrv00, on 17 December 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

 JeremyGarvey12, on 17 December 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

so basically with what I'm seeing with the two new irons was Callaway was like hey, the AP1 and the AP2 are pretty popular, lets copy those exactly and put a red X on the back that way people have no idea we stole the idea. Oh, and to hide it even more, we wont even forge then, we will go the cheaper route like we always do and make them cast. No wonder why Phil is gaming a RBZ...

They look nothing like the AP1 and AP2, so I am bit confused?
They have a cavity back. So they must have copied the AP1 & AP2.

Edited by OUZO Power, 17 December 2012 - 09:53 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:52 PM

 JeremyGarvey12, on 17 December 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

so basically with what I'm seeing with the two new irons was Callaway was like hey, the AP1 and the AP2 are pretty popular, lets copy those exactly and put a red X on the back that way people have no idea we stole the idea. Oh, and to hide it even more, we wont even forge then, we will go the cheaper route like we always do and make them cast. No wonder why Phil is gaming a RBZ...
I really hope this is not the case, as i have owned both ap1 and ap2s and they both left a lot to be desired.  I think the razr tour irons were superior to the titleist irons and I believe these will be too.  my .02


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