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[Lefty94]

So I just logged onto PGA Tour value guide to see what a couple of current gamers are worth. I must admit I was a little suprised at how low some newer items were. We all know that resale prices/trade-in are crap but it's still depressing. So I decided to go through my whole bag. Below is what I paid and what it's worth.

  PAID vs Value
Adams Fast 12 (non LS) with upgrade to Fubuki Alpha    $299  vs. 34.50
Adams Fast 12 3 wood stock (FW was free with driver)    Free  vs. 21.83
Adams Idea Pro Gold Proto 3 Hy with Javln FX Shaft $75 vs. 8.64
Adams A4OS 4Hy with Javln FX Shaft $65 vs. 13.72
2009 Callaway X Forged 3-pw $350  vs. $97.29
Scratch 8620 52*, 56*, 60* $300  vs. 58.68 (price for all 3)
Odessey white hot XG #1 $109   vs. 8.77
TOTAL   $1198 vs. $243.43


Now to me my sticks are obviously worth much more, as I have spent a long time finding the right combo that works for me. Most of it is older, but it works and I have it dialed it. I just thought it was interesting. If anyone else wants to feel depressed along with me feel free to post your current bags value vs what you paid for it.

Edited by Lefty94, 03 December 2012 - 12:00 PM.

[TNReb]

They valued your putter at $8.77?  Funny.. and ridiculous.

[ATXgolfer]

are these trade-in values or resale values? I am too lazy to go check.. but you should use resale and not trade in/

[Lefty94]

TNReb, on 03 December 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

They valued your putter at $8.77?  Funny.. and ridiculous.

Yep. I know it's about 3-4 years old but I still love it. Always come back to it. What shcoked me was the driver. It was just released earlier this year at the $399 price point. I picked it up when it was $299 with free fw wood back in june. And now it's only worth $34. It's amazing how quickly clubs go down. For instance the current value on the 913 D2 driver is $189 and that only came out like 3 weeks ago!!!!

[profsmitty]

Remember, those values are what your sticks are worth to someone else, in this case the PGA store nearest you. They aren't even market prices.The closest measure of market price, albeit a very imperfect measure but more accurate than a price guide, shows a much higher value for your Callie x-forged irons than $97.29.

Most importantly, what they are worth to someone else is irrelevant. Its what they are worth to you.

[Lefty94]

ATXgolfer, on 03 December 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

are these trade-in values or resale values? I am too lazy to go check.. but you should use resale and not trade in/

Trade in, which I know is worse. It was more curiosity, as I am generally to lazy to sell. I usually hang onto to stuff or wait for a trade in +50% deal.

[ATXgolfer]

okay.. went and check as I was curious. You used trade-in value and not resale value. The resale value for your putter was $22. That's what it is worth in the market.. using trade-in value is not appropriate to calculate what your bag is currently worth.

[ABgolfer2]

My irons are 20 years old and my wedges are almost that old. I "game" a used driver and 3-wood. All still in excellent condition relative to their age and it would cost a lot more to get another set tweaked (bent, regripped, and possibly reshafted) to my preferences than this set is worth. I suspect I'll have them for a long time.

[Lefty94]

ATXgolfer, on 03 December 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

okay.. went and check as I was curious. You used trade-in value and not resale value. The resale value for your putter was $22. That's what it is worth in the market.. using trade-in value is not appropriate to calculate what your bag is currently worth.

If I use the re-sale option the bag is worth $553.74. Which is a little better. Again I'm not selling, it was just something that struck me, more so as to how much I spend on gear vs. what I end up with. Also as I mentioned I am usually to lazy and don't want to deal with the hassle of selling on the BST or Ebay.

Now if you will excuse me, it's lunch time and I am off to the local golf shop to find a new utility iron since it doesn't look like Callaway is releasing the X Utility in lefty anytime soon.

[Woodridge]

For some reason, I think the trade-in/resale value on Adams clubs is notoriously low, unless you're talking about the MB2's. It doesn't make sense to me, but that what the 'free market' seems to say.

[MountainKing]

As much as I dislike the site, I've always found ebay to be a better starting point to find out the value of something....although this can be skewed because depending on where you live in the country you might be willing to pay a little more for something based on availability in your area.

[Snufles]

Shot my first under par round yesterday and to me my bag is priceless.

[displayname]

This is why I don't pay retail for anything, and I'm always hunting for a bargain when I'm ready to try something new. If I sold my whole bag on it's own according to resale prices, I'd be up about $100. Granted, my irons were acquired at no cost.  But I still turned profit on a driver according to the guide, my hybrid had no value, and all my woods have upgraded shafts. So overall, I'd say about even to some profit is where I would sit at the lowest.  

Everything is used once you hit it once, so save hundred by buying stuff late or slightly used.

[llamont]

My brand new R11 TP retailed for $499. Then I added an authentic and new Diamana BB which retailed for $360.  I just put a Cleveland Launcher DST 15* 3 wood/18* hybrid in the bag along with my winter irons: Mizuno MP Fli Hi 21* and MX25 irons 4-PW (graphite shafts); Callaway Jaws CC wedges 54*\58* and a Nike Method 003 putter.

All in all, I estimate that the msrp of my bag exceeds $2K. However, I didnt pay retail for anything in my bag. Btw, I purchased all of my equipment new.

Edited by llamont, 03 December 2012 - 03:21 PM.

[kjbowen]

I built most my bag from components so ny bag cost me very little

[Fight Club]

The objective for most of us is to find our perfect set-up without foolishly paying for everything at retail value.  Surprisingly some people do.  For example, I added what my bag would cost new retail and it added up to $2690.  Between Golf WRX B/S/T, E-Bay & retail store sales and clearances I only paid $1180 (43% of retail) for everything new.  Despite the PGA trade-in value being even significantly lower than what I paid there is no financial guilt here.

Edited by SanDiegoSam, 03 December 2012 - 03:12 PM.

[seasterl]

Those prices are about right,... about $0.20 on the dollar.  Our local Play it Again Sports only gives about $0.03 - $0.05 on the dollar for used excellent-condition stuff, then sells it for $0.10 - $0.15 on the dollar. Most golf shops in my area are getting to where they won't even take in pre-owned golf clubs because they can't make any profit. I'm quickly learning that buying and selling golf gear is officially the fastest way to lose money.

[Lefty94]

displayname, on 03 December 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

This is why I don't pay retail for anything, and I'm always hunting for a bargain when I'm ready to try something new. If I sold my whole bag on it's own according to resale prices, I'd be up about $100. Granted, my irons were acquired at no cost.  But I still turned profit on a driver according to the guide, my hybrid had no value, and all my woods have upgraded shafts. So overall, I'd say about even to some profit is where I would sit at the lowest.  

Everything is used once you hit it once, so save hundred by buying stuff late or slightly used.

True, which is why everything in my bag is older stuff. I buy brand new that is a few years old. With the exception of the putter I bought everything brand new this offseason. The only new or current model clubs in my bag are the driver and the 3 wood. I paid for the driver with trade ins and gift cards and the 3wd came free. Bargain golf websites are your friend.

[kjbowen]

seasterl, on 03 December 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Those prices are about right,... about $0.20 on the dollar.  Our local Play it Again Sports only gives about $0.03 - $0.05 on the dollar for used excellent-condition stuff, then sells it for $0.10 - $0.15 on the dollar. Most golf shops in my area are getting to where they won't even take in pre-owned golf clubs because they can't make any profit. I'm quickly learning that buying and selling golf gear is officially the fastest way to lose money.

i respectively disagree.

Yes if u buy a new club then trade it in.. You will get hosed

but i always buy used clubs with the sole purpose of selling them and always make money.. You just have to.be frugal

[lettucebcereal]

This is why I finally etched into my head to stop buying the "newest" and stick with what I have, since everything in my bag currently works well. If it doesn't, as other users have said, I'll research, hit and buy used.

[ILBrad`]

The golf trade in value is a crime. I'm lucky enough that my local shop will wheel and deal with me on trade in. They however will not pay cash for used clubs.

I know everyone is it to make money, but a 6 month old driver that cost $399 should not be worth $50 for trade in. Golf is definitely a bad investment if you are a club ho. It's okay if you intend to use the same equipment for 4-5 years.

[seasterl]

kjbowen, on 03 December 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:

seasterl, on 03 December 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Those prices are about right,... about $0.20 on the dollar.  Our local Play it Again Sports only gives about $0.03 - $0.05 on the dollar for used excellent-condition stuff, then sells it for $0.10 - $0.15 on the dollar. Most golf shops in my area are getting to where they won't even take in pre-owned golf clubs because they can't make any profit. I'm quickly learning that buying and selling golf gear is officially the fastest way to lose money.

i respectively disagree.

Yes if u buy a new club then trade it in.. You will get hosed

but i always buy used clubs with the sole purpose of selling them and always make money.. You just have to.be frugal

I was referring to new stuff.  If you can buy used (cheap!) and then sell, you could probably recoup most of the initial investment.  The seller that gets hosed is the person that buys a new (fill in the blank), hits a few balls at the range, and then sells to anyone other than a good friend for "the goin' rate for a used club."

[kjbowen]

seasterl, on 03 December 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

kjbowen, on 03 December 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:

seasterl, on 03 December 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Those prices are about right,... about $0.20 on the dollar.  Our local Play it Again Sports only gives about $0.03 - $0.05 on the dollar for used excellent-condition stuff, then sells it for $0.10 - $0.15 on the dollar. Most golf shops in my area are getting to where they won't even take in pre-owned golf clubs because they can't make any profit. I'm quickly learning that buying and selling golf gear is officially the fastest way to lose money.

i respectively disagree.

Yes if u buy a new club then trade it in.. You will get hosed

but i always buy used clubs with the sole purpose of selling them and always make money.. You just have to.be frugal

I was referring to new stuff.  If you can buy used (cheap!) and then sell, you could probably recoup most of the initial investment.  The seller that gets hosed is the person that buys a new (fill in the blank), hits a few balls at the range, and then sells to anyone other than a good friend for "the goin' rate for a used club."

I agree 100 percent.. buying new golf clubs is like buying a new car.. once you take the wrapper off you lose 20 percent right off the top

[Buzzkill]

My setup is worth $695:

Ping i20 driver $165
Ping i20 hybrid $182 (2@$91ea)
Eye 2+ irons $140
Nickent 3DX DC $8
Miura 350 $200

Edited by Buzzkill, 03 December 2012 - 04:14 PM.

[CCUgolfer23]

Snufles, on 03 December 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

Shot my first under par round yesterday and to me my bag is priceless.

Same here, shot a 71 saturday

[golfdad907]

Current Trade-In / Resale Value per PGA Guide:

Razr Fit TA with Blueboard 73S - 160/290 ( I paid 300 + 130 for shaft with Tour Cog)
DET Fairway - 17/31 (paid $99 new if I recall)
Razr Fit 5 wood with Blueboard 73S - 45/81 (CPO Like New $119)
Razr X Tour Hybrid - 36/66 (paid 129 on sale new)
Diablo Forged Irons with KBS Tour S - 128/233 (paid 500 bills New from CPO)
2 Cleveland RTG Wedges - 47/95 each (paid 130 each)
Odyssey Black Series i #9 - 40/80 (paid 80 like new on the Bay)

Like others have said, I learned not to trade in anything, sell it yourself or keep it as backup.  Still enlightening to see just how fast this stuff loses value.

If you buy last year's latest and greatest during current year, save a ton of $$$ and I don't think anything is all that much better than previous years offerings, it's just I can't stop HO'ing.