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[driverwedge3putt]

OK guys went to the range today and for the first time in 5 years I hit a few cuts - Not nice ones but the ball curved right so I was happy.

I thought "swing left" and I did - Felt like I was coming WAY Over the top but I guess not.
One question though - all my shots start right of target  - when i hit it straight it was slightly right.  When I hit a cut it pretty much started at the target, mabye a tad right and kept right......

Its not lie angle as it was with every club I was trying (different makes of irons)....

How does the ball start left? Path or face angle?  I tried opening the face and swing out to in and same thing.

[iteachgolf]

Ball starts basically where the face is pointed. To get the ball to start left the face needs to be closed to the target. To get it to fade path needs to be more left than the face

[driverwedge3putt]

got it thanks...

Going to try again next week weather depending.

[hoselrocketman]

iteachgolf, on 02 December 2012 - 09:40 PM, said:

I'd question the accuracy of machine.  You can't hit up on an iron 2-3*, and get it in the air.  Certainly can't hit up and take a divot with an iron, unless you hit it a foot behind the ball.

Can't hit up on the ball period if it is sitting on the ground.  You CAN hit up on it if it is on a tee, obviously.

[keiko]

At the risk of you directing your frustration towards me, I would suggest you follow i teach advice but also I would suggest you are pulling up and out of your shots,period!
In order for one to contact the ball flush one must insure the club face stays square through the hitting zone. You are lifting your body up in anticipation of God knows what. Watch a pro at impact and for a long time after the ball is struck-in slow motion, you will see the ball is long gone before they move that head. The head lifting tells the body to do the same; the body is moving forward with weight while the head stays stationery. Slow motion swings will teach you all you need to know but to a youngin like yourself, you are probably looking for quick, easy fix. If you are moving off the ball, you have to break yourself of that by digging it out of the dirt.
by the way, most of my shots for most of my 67 year life have been laser straight, the things I do to shape the ball when I want to are so minor, I won't mention them here. First learn to hit it straight, the rest comes later.
Good luck and try not to abuse your elders; you will be one some day-if your luck holds out.

driverwedge3putt, on 02 December 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

I know why i hook - my grip is good but Im attacking the ball 15 deg from the inside.  Im also hitting UP on the ball with irons 2 - 3 deg causing very little spin - my divots are all pointing to the right a bit too.  

Can anybody suggest some drills to swing down the line?  I want to hit it straight, no cut, no draw, just straight.  down the line with a square club face.  Any suggestions?

[Ajlepisto]

Do you think your hips are moving under your center on your downswing, causing you to flip your hands across and out to the right? This has been a major flaw for me, causing my head to move all over in my swing to compensate. If your weight gets onto your heels, you will tend to stand up and push your hips towards the ball, which gets your right arm stuck. That's probably why you have to clear really hard to hit it straight.

[driverwedge3putt]

that sounds about right lol  I do end up on my heels once in a while.  I dont think I move my head too much.  I may move into the ball as when it was really bad I hit the dreaded S once in a while.

[Ajlepisto]

If you stay what feels like on your toes in your downswing and try to hit across your feet, does the ball go straight?

I've slowly been fixing this my feeling like I am actually on my tiptoes through my swing and swinging across my left leg. The ball straightens out and the power is still there, plus I'm flushing the ball much better.

[philred]

Id have a serious look at your backswing- the only way to get the club into that sort of extreme inside delivery position is to be making some sort of compensation for an earlier flaw.

A pupil of mine had a similar, though not so extreme problem. He was working his right elbow deep and behind him as opposed to folding it correctly and loading the shoulder at the top. From this position he would drive his hips towards the target to create space for his arms and get club on ball.

Once we worked on the right elbow/ shoulder position it was much easier to swing through on a straighter path and straighten his ball flight.

Obviously without seeing you swing its a long shot but you never know. Try youtube-ing pete cowen axe drill or sean foley has a video on there about external shoulder rotation which is good.

[StevenF]

if you want to hit it straight get some G15's lol

[aliikane]

Put an empty water bottle behind the ball on the inside path so you have to swing more on plane to avoid hitting the bottle.

[driverwedge3putt]

what angle of attack from the inside is good - i was at 15 deg im working hard at coming down the line im down to about 8-9 deg from the inside.  

What is the "perfect" angle of attack

[SunkTheBirdie]

driverwedge3putt, on 06 January 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

What is the "perfect" angle of attack

Probably depends on the club (Driver or else) and clubhead speed

Edited by SunkTheBirdie, 06 January 2013 - 12:18 PM.

[driverwedge3putt]

SunkTheBirdie, on 06 January 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

driverwedge3putt, on 06 January 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

What is the "perfect" angle of attack

Probably depends on the club.

some examples please if you know... just curious

[SunkTheBirdie]

driverwedge3putt, on 06 January 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

some examples please if you know... just curious

... you mean from the inside ?
I'm not sure.
I'd guess zero.

If you want to get better before the spring .... upload a video.

Edited by SunkTheBirdie, 06 January 2013 - 12:21 PM.

[iteachgolf]

2-4* in to out throughout the bag and maybe 6* at most with the driver is what you should strive for.

[driverwedge3putt]

iteachgolf, on 06 January 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

2-4* in to out throughout the bag and maybe 6* at most with the driver is what you should strive for.

awesome thanks teach.  

I was at 15 hooking the crap out of the ball, down to about 8-9 yesterday on trackman but it feels crazy like im coming way over the top.
Keep practicing I guess.

[Ri_Redneck]

driverwedge3putt, on 06 January 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

what angle of attack from the inside is good - i was at 15 deg im working hard at coming down the line im down to about 8-9 deg from the inside.  

What is the "perfect" angle of attack

That's not "angle of attack", it's club path. If you use the wrong term you will not get the right answers. Your goal should be +/- 2* from 0, perfect being 0 of course. Something no one has asked is if your stance is square to your INTENDED club path? IF not and it is closed, open it. That will help tremendously with your severe in-to-out path.

BT

[Jon Robert]

Stick a driveway marker rod in the ground. $1-$2.00 at home improvement store

Something on this order - 1:37 2nd half of video

https://www.youtube....e&v=JacL7GVBi3M

Edited by Jon Robert, 06 January 2013 - 06:40 PM.