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[crpyputr]

Serious question, and I am not trying to be flippant, but in using a long putter what if I braced my tricep (back of upper arm for those anatomically challenged) against my body with forearm sticking straight out and held the top of the putter. Would that be legal under the new rule? I am not even sure how practical it would be to putt like that but I have to believe it is legal in relation to the stated rule. Perhaps a small loophole?

The proposed new rule Rule 14-1b will prohibit "strokes made with the club or a hand gripping the club held directly against the player's body, or with a forearm held against the body to establish an anchor point that indirectly anchors the club."

[jwrogers]

It's not a loophole, by my understanding it is intentionally legal.   They cited the example of a golfer with his elbows locked to his side -- that's legal.   I don't even think there are any contortionists out there who can lock their elbows into their sides without anchoring the triceps.    Your hands would still be manipulating the entire grip of the putter.

[tmfool]

definition of "anchor" to the "body" will need clarification.

it might be one of those "know it when you see it" interpretations -- which could be tricky

either way -- 3yrs to figure this thing out

controversial topic for awhile - but will subside with time.

square grooves, casey martin, -- usga and pga not afraid to draw line in sand and stand up to a challenge

[DiaBetic WooKie]

I found this to be useful

http://www.usga.org/...1b-Infographic/

[tmfool]

excellent!

pictures help....

bernard langher style might be ok?

[Willie Malay]

I though they said anything past the forearm was illegal.

[pr123]

Willie Malay, on 28 November 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

I though they said anything past the forearm was illegal.

+1 this is what they said on GC

[jwrogers]

pr123, on 28 November 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

Willie Malay, on 28 November 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

I though they said anything past the forearm was illegal.

+1 this is what they said on GC

That's not what he's asking.   He's asking about locking his TRICEP to his BODY, not anchoring the putter on the tricep.   Anchoring the putter on the tricep would be illegal.    Locking the tricep to the body to build a stable base is perfectly legal as long as you don't lock your forearm to your body.   Look at the USGA photos.

[jwrogers]

Look where it says "one or both elbows braced against the body"-- LEGAL.    Can you brace your elbow without bracing your tricep?   I'd like to see that.

[Augster]

Maybe I'm reading it differently, or maybe the same as jwrogers is.

In the first post, I believe he is getting at holding the end of the club steady, anchored, in his hand.  Then the rest of his arm, elbow up, is anchored/glued to his body with his forearm sticking out holding the end of the club.  Much like how Petersson and Scott do it.  Except that currently they lock the back of their hand/forearm to their chest.

I believe the OP has found a little bit of a loophole as long as the forearm is not anchored.  i.e. locked against something.  Whether one can actually putt that way remains to be seen, but I believe it would be legal as he has described it.

[Newby]

Anchoring the forearm effectively fixes the wrist, hand and club end. Anchoring the triceps leaves the forearm free (and therefore the hand and grip) to wander. This freedom to wander is the intent of the change.

[lander215]

Newby, on 30 November 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

Anchoring the forearm effectively fixes the wrist, hand and club end. Anchoring the triceps leaves the forearm free (and therefore the hand and grip) to wander. This freedom to wander is the intent of the change.

You must have some funny wrists, because I can anchor my forearm against my side and my wrist is still free to move, same as when I anchor my tricep.

I agree with Augster though...I don't see how anyone could make an effective putting stroke with the tricep anchored...it puts the club either too far forward, or too far to either side (depending on how you anchor).

[Newby]

Perhaps I should't have said 'fixes' the wrist but in effect it fixes the end of the club such that it is still the fulcrum.

[Newby]

http://www.putterzon...ck-putters.html

[tembolo1284]

jwrogers, on 28 November 2012 - 10:11 PM, said:

Look where it says "one or both elbows braced against the body"-- LEGAL. Can you brace your elbow without bracing your tricep?   I'd like to see that.

Unless you have another joint to bend your arm at the bicep to keep your tricep off your body....that tricep is going on the body hehe.

[lander215]

Newby, on 30 November 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

http://www.putterzon...ck-putters.html

Not really "new" since that's the way Kuchar has been putting. Probably see some of the long putter guys on Tour try out Kuchars stroke.