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[That Bob Guy]

I've been reading about face angle and it's relation to effective loft.
Did you know that face angle at impact dictates the effective loft of the club at a 1:1 ratio,
In metal woods and hybrids?
So, all these years, I've been attempting to hit high long approach shots to the green, by laying the club face open, and playing the ball up in my stance, is only defeating the process. In fact, I'm turning my 15
degree 3 wood into a driver off the deck. A slight exaggeration, to make my point.
Am I correct in my summation?

[Golfjunki71]

If you open the face of  a 15 wood and get it back to square it's still 15 degrees, assuming it measures 15 degrees and measures square.  You're statement is about measured face versus measured loft. If you buy  a 15 degree 3w that is two degrees open and get it back to square it's now around ~ 13 degrees. Actually it's about one degree to 0.7 degrees , not 1:1.

[That Bob Guy]

Golfjunki71, on 25 November 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

If you open the face of  a 15 wood and get it back to square it's still 15 degrees, assuming it measures 15 degrees and measures square.  You're statement is about measured face versus measured loft. If you buy  a 15 degree 3w that is two degrees open and get it back to square it's now around ~ 13 degrees. Actually it's about one degree to 0.7 degrees , not 1:1.

... What I was trying to say was, 1 degree open = 1 less degree of loft, if you deliver the clubface to the ball 1 degree open.

[nova6868]

Effective loft only applies to clubs that are BUILT open or closed.

[Golfjunki71]

No you have it backwards. If you open it up and deliver it open, you have more loft.

TheBobGuy, on 25 November 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

Golfjunki71, on 25 November 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

If you open the face of  a 15 wood and get it back to square it's still 15 degrees, assuming it measures 15 degrees and measures square.  You're statement is about measured face versus measured loft. If you buy  a 15 degree 3w that is two degrees open and get it back to square it's now around ~ 13 degrees. Actually it's about one degree to 0.7 degrees , not 1:1.

... What I was trying to say was, 1 degree open = 1 less degree of loft, if you deliver the clubface to the ball 1 degree open.

[tommy89]

If you think about it. Playing a high lob you open the face at address and deliver it open. Increasing the loft

[That Bob Guy]

tommy89, on 25 November 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

If you think about it. Playing a high lob you open the face at address and deliver it open. Increasing the loft

Yeah, but that is with an iron. Flat face. No buldge and roll.

[That Bob Guy]

There is an article on the web by Jeff Summit of Hireko Golf. I just can't seem to attach it.

Google effective loft driver, and you see "The relationship between loft and face angle"

[Golfjunki71]

That article is for as measured loft and face. We already explained it. It is just like the lob wedge example given.