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MP H4 vs J40 DPC vs JPX 825 Pros

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#1 Ocean30

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:23 PM

MP H4 vs J40 DPC vs JPX 825 Pros

I just received the new MP H4 3 iron with a PCi shaft and really liking it.  I was looking for a replacement for my hybrids and was suprised at the increase in yardage.  Was playing the TEE XCG 22* hybrid that was my 185 - 190 yd club and the new 21* MP H4 for me is now my 200 yd club. MP H4 4 iron is on the way.

My 6 iron ss is about 83mph and is my 155 club (JPX800 Pro with S300s).  At the club I play most of the guys that drive the ball similiar to me (240-250 yds) play at least 1 less club when playing irons.  So I am wanting more distance.  I have been thinking about getting new shafts and decided that it may make since to just sell the JPX800 pros and buy new clubs with lighter weight shafts.

Anyway I have been playing the JPX 800 Pros and liking them.  I have been reading the reviews of the J40s and thinking about trying them for the past several months.  Now enter the MP H4's that at least the 3 iron is easier for me to play than my 4 iron in the JPX800 Pro.  Maybe honeymoon period.

I read the Mizuno website and handicap ratings on their club and it shows that the JPX are more forgiving than the MP H4s.  Yet, at least for me in the long irons the MP H4s are easier to play.

For those that have played or tried these clubs how do you compare them in terms of forgiveness and distance.

Thanks in advance!!

I am an 11 hcp and getting better.  I play and practice several times a week. Working to be a single digit hcp in 2013.

Edited by Ocean30, 21 November 2012 - 03:28 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:08 PM

In terms of forgiveness (from least to most) I'd say the Dpc's - h4's and then the Jpx 825 pro's . But I'd say the long irons in the h4's are more forgiving in the longer irons mostly due to sole width but the overall blade length of the 825 is longer (and the lofts are stronger) I was excited to try out the DPC's but I can never load the project x's properly (I've hit a blade pure with an s300 and then misshit with px in a cavity back) so keep that in mind when you try them out
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:46 PM

Part of my problem is that I have not found any J40's in my area (Palm Beach County).  Thanks for sharing.

I am thinking about using the Aerotech i95s in the irons.

Edited by Ocean30, 21 November 2012 - 05:47 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:20 PM

When I tried the MP H4 6 iron and was hitting it 170 to about 180. I've never hit a 6 iron that far before.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:07 PM

I have to be the guy that says it, if you are hitting a 6 iron 155, you do not need stiff flex shafts, much less something as heavy/stiff as an s300.   I would bet you would be better off with an R flex and MAYBE going lighter depending on your transition.  I used an S300 and had no issue controlling it while hitting my 6 iron 180 yards, when I started working out and turned my distance way up, then I moved on to an x, there is no reason to be using the S300 for the swing speed you are working with.

Get a decent fitting and go from there.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:56 PM

I agree about the S300 - that is part of what is pushing this change.  I am looking to goto either the Aerotech i95 in R or the PCi shafts in 5.0.

Any thoughts on the H4 vs JPX or the J40's?  it looks like I can get 15% off retail on any of the sets from InTheHoleGolf or perhaps others this weekend.

Thanks again

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 09:51 AM

I take a person's hdcp out of the question when I make "suggestions" for irons.  I am a 15.8hdcp because my driver is all over the place some times and I don't have a great short game due to NO practice.  I can hit blades down to a 5i as comfortable as most CB's.  That being said!

The 825PRO's and DPC's are VERY close in head size and sole grind.  The H4's are a different animal.  I was able to hit the set for the 1st time on Monday night.  The 7-PW you look down at a "normal" iron like the AP2's.  The 3-6 I just couldn't play on, that back buldge is way too much.  I do LOVE the MP FLI HI as a 3-4i option, they are not as "bulky" in the back to ME as the H4's are.

I would say if you can hit the 825 PRO's well at the range then you will have NO issue hitting the DPC's.  Visually I like the 825's better.  The DPC have too much "toe meat" meaning where the groove line ends to the toe there is more exposed area then the 825's.  Could just be a cosmetic preference but they FEEL really the same,  I REALLY like the feel of both to be honest.

I am shopping for irons as we speak and the 825PRO's are in the final 2.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 01:25 PM

View PostOrangeCrush, on 22 November 2012 - 09:51 AM, said:

The 7-PW you look down at a "normal" iron like the AP2's.  The 3-6 I just couldn't play on, that back buldge is way too much.  I do LOVE the MP FLI HI as a 3-4i option, they are not as "bulky" in the back to ME as the H4's are....

I am shopping for irons as we speak and the 825PRO's are in the final 2.

I really liked the H4 3 iron and ordered the 4. I keep debating getting the full set.  I agree that the 7 down look fine.  If the 6 was more like the 7 I would go all H4's

As it is, I keep trying to come up with the right combo with the right mix of forgiveness, distance and looks.  I like my 800 Pros, so I may just reshaft them and play 5-Gap with the 800pros with i95 Aerotechs and 2,3,4 in the H4's.

Now i am thinking hard about getting the MP 53s instead of the 825Pros for the 5-P to match up with the H4s?

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:39 PM

IMHO I think the 825PRO's will mate very well with the H4's.  The H4's will hit 5-10yds longer iron for iron then the 53's where as the 825PRO's close that gap.  For myself a 2-3-4 MP FLI HI 5-GW 825PRO would make me a very happy man!
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 05:10 AM

View PostOcean30, on 22 November 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

View PostOrangeCrush, on 22 November 2012 - 09:51 AM, said:

The 7-PW you look down at a "normal" iron like the AP2's.  The 3-6 I just couldn't play on, that back buldge is way too much.  I do LOVE the MP FLI HI as a 3-4i option, they are not as "bulky" in the back to ME as the H4's are....

I am shopping for irons as we speak and the 825PRO's are in the final 2.

I really liked the H4 3 iron and ordered the 4. I keep debating getting the full set.  I agree that the 7 down look fine.  If the 6 was more like the 7 I would go all H4's

As it is, I keep trying to come up with the right combo with the right mix of forgiveness, distance and looks.  I like my 800 Pros, so I may just reshaft them and play 5-Gap with the 800pros with i95 Aerotechs and 2,3,4 in the H4's.

Now i am thinking hard about getting the MP 53s instead of the 825Pros for the 5-P to match up with the H4s?

Go with the 53s.....much better iron.


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Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:53 PM

Regarding the 825 pro... Just picked up a set at my specs, went with the s300 xp and with the stronger lofts, have a mid to high ball flight. Had a horrible driving day...typically hit 65% fairways but today was around 30%.  Hitting everything off the toe and didn't hit my first fairway until #8 so I decided to review the round (first with these irons) with these irons and the temp dropping 10 degrees to low 60's after the front 9.  1st hole out of the rough have to punch a wedge under a tree...middle of green.  Next hole, in the rough and either lay up or hit it over the creek, 5 iron over the creek, middle of fairway.  Next par 5 pop up (really?) rough, 4 iron to middle of fairway. #9 par 3 playing about 170  (195 downhill) middle of green pin high.  # 10, drive it in the rough (again) with the drive 8 iron hits middle of green. Next par 5...hit a fairway, layup 5 iron, middle of fairway. Short par 4 tee off with 4 iron, middle of the fairway. Next whole 2nd shot 212 4 iron right at the flag, fringe putting from 18 feet.  Never flushed a shot all day yet the irons were treating me right all day. The feel was not as good as I had hoped but the results with these irons were better than I would have had with my mbs.  Went to the range afterward and figured out the swing.  Shot 84 and it felt like 90... My assessment after just 1 round, these are great out of the rough, long irons are easy to hit and I expect much better results when I' m striking the ball better.  My ball flight path was either straight or a slight draw...round 2 in a couple of days.




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