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Best OLD SCHOOL Wedge?


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#1 MadGolfer76

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:58 PM

Yes, I know..."Old Skool." I am a teacher, sorry.


Anyway, what have you got for me? HAS TO BE CONFORMING - no super Mack Daddy grooves that you could shave your beard with. Looking to pair with a set of Mp-33's for a slightly retro bag.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:09 PM

Cleveland 485, 588, or 900, or Vokey 200 or 400.  Don't put a cavity back wedge next to those MP-33s!

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:15 PM

Old school and conforming?  Golf is an old sport,... so assuming you don't want hickory shafts, square grooves, rusty Clevelands, just get the wedges that match the irons you're going to use or the wedges Mizuno will replace with their newer wedges but the same finish.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:23 PM

588 RTG. Played them long after they went away, and now they're back as the "forged" version

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:43 PM

The grooves on the "pre 2010" Cleveland wedges (including the various derivatives of the 588 series) do not comply with the conditions of competition. So going truly retro with Cleveland will not be in compliance with the conforming groove rule.

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Hybrid 2:  Cleveland Classic 18*
Hybrid 4:  Cleveland Classic 23*
Irons: TMag SpeedBlade HL 5-GW
Wedges: Cleveland Tour Action 54* / 58*
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#6 MadGolfer76

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:56 PM

View Postjmck, on 20 November 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

Cleveland 485, 588, or 900, or Vokey 200 or 400.  Don't put a cavity back wedge next to those MP-33s!

Ha! No way that will EVER happen!
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#7 MadGolfer76

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:58 PM

View Postseasterl, on 20 November 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

Old school and conforming?  Golf is an old sport,... so assuming you don't want hickory shafts, square grooves, rusty Clevelands, just get the wedges that match the irons you're going to use or the wedges Mizuno will replace with their newer wedges but the same finish.

For some odd reason, the 33's conform, but a lot of the old R and T series wedges don't!

I couldn't even believe that my 52's were conforming, because they spin so much!
Titleist 915D3 9.5/Diamana Whiteboard 63
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#8 MadGolfer76

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:59 PM

View Postllamont, on 20 November 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

The grooves on the "pre 2010" Cleveland wedges (including the various derivatives of the 588 series) do not comply with the conditions of competition. So going truly retro with Cleveland will not be in compliance with the conforming groove rule.

Yeah, not really my preference anyway. Might take another look at the Vokey 200/400's, but sheesh...those things still pull a dollar!

Edited by MadGolfer76, 20 November 2012 - 09:00 PM.

Titleist 915D3 9.5/Diamana Whiteboard 63
Titleist 915F 16.5/Diamana Blueboard 73
Mizuno Mp-54 3-Pw/Dynamic Gold s300
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:05 PM

View PostMadGolfer76, on 20 November 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

View Postseasterl, on 20 November 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

Old school and conforming?  Golf is an old sport,... so assuming you don't want hickory shafts, square grooves, rusty Clevelands, just get the wedges that match the irons you're going to use or the wedges Mizuno will replace with their newer wedges but the same finish.

For some odd reason, the 33's conform, but a lot of the old R and T series wedges don't!

I couldn't even believe that my 52's were conforming, because they spin so much!

It appears that most of Mizuno's "MP" line of irons conform. Although the MP-14 and the MP-29 irons weren't listed on the USGA's database, I remember seeing a WITB thread photo at a Symetra Tour event where a young lady bagged a set of MP-29s. The MP-30 and later are referenced and conforming. My guess is that while the design of the heads changed the groove technology didn't.
Driver:  Ping G30 9*
3 Wood:  Ping G30 14.5*
Hybrid 2:  Cleveland Classic 18*
Hybrid 4:  Cleveland Classic 23*
Irons: TMag SpeedBlade HL 5-GW
Wedges: Cleveland Tour Action 54* / 58*
Putter:  Cleveland HB 1i 35" w/ SuperStroke Slim 1.0

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:49 AM

View Posthebron1427, on 20 November 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

588 RTG. Played them long after they went away, and now they're back as the "forged" version

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:03 AM

Why do you need conforming wedges?
Ping G30 driver w/Adila Rogue Silver 60S
TEE XCG6 3 wood & E8 hybrids
Mizuno Hot Metal irons w/Recoil 95's
Glide 50/55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110's
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:36 AM

588 RTG
PING G400 8.5 DEGREE w/ ALTA X
TOUR ISSUE TAYLORMADE RBZ 14.1 DEGREE w/ TOUR GREEN 75X
SRIXON Z U65 18 DEGREE w/ MODUS 120X
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:12 AM

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Alien Wedges all the way!!

Edited by mweaver84, 21 November 2012 - 09:12 AM.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:14 AM

The Hogan series that was BeCu. I still have the 52/55/56/60. I play them sometimes in the fall. Something about copper wedges in the fall is just the best.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:33 AM

Do you consider the Ping iWedge old enough?  As a mid-capper, this is by far the easiest wedge I've used for full swing shots from tight lies.

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Ping G25 4W w/ TFC
Ping G15 20* Hybrid w/ GD YSQ
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:39 AM

I really liked my old Mizzy forged Faldo wedges and old Cobra Norman Signature wedges as well
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:46 AM

How far back is 'old school'? Wilson JPs, Hogan Sure Outs and others, Eye2s, 588s? Lots of them still in use. Remakes of the Eye2s (XGs) and 588s. LOL at those calling Vokey 200s 'old school.' It's relative. No offense to anyone.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:33 PM

Hogan Forged wedge. Fantastic balance, workable bounce. Elegant. No longer made. Older Cleveland 588s. Cast but consistent. Nice weighting, good bounce. Elegant look.
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#19 MadGolfer76

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:26 PM

View PostNessism, on 21 November 2012 - 08:03 AM, said:

Why do you need conforming wedges?

Don't worry, it isn't because I am trying to be a tour poser.

Something on the order of the old X-Forged or a Zip groove wedge just shred balls for me. I am thinking about putting the Fg-Tour ball into play with this set, but if I do they won't last long. Also, I am a high spin wedge player - full shots rip off the green.

I have sets of Mizuno, Vokey and Yururi that are non-conforming, so it might be nice to try something else. I have had a couple newer ones (Mp-r12, Mp-t11, etc.) but I figured since the irons are older it might be fun to try wedges that are older as well. Worst case scenario is I send them off to Jim Kronus for a little touch up.
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#20 MadGolfer76

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:50 PM

View Postmweaver84, on 21 November 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

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Alien Wedges all the way!!

Dude, that is an abomination!


(...and I have hit one, before)

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:24 PM

I Played with a guy years ago who used that thing for all his short game shots and he was pretty good at getting the ball close with it!

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#22 Nessism

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:56 AM

View PostMadGolfer76, on 21 November 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

View PostNessism, on 21 November 2012 - 08:03 AM, said:

Why do you need conforming wedges?

Don't worry, it isn't because I am trying to be a tour poser.

Something on the order of the old X-Forged or a Zip groove wedge just shred balls for me. I am thinking about putting the Fg-Tour ball into play with this set, but if I do they won't last long. Also, I am a high spin wedge player - full shots rip off the green.


Most pre 2010 wedges are non-conforming to the groove rule.  This rules out just about all "old school wedges".
Ping G30 driver w/Adila Rogue Silver 60S
TEE XCG6 3 wood & E8 hybrids
Mizuno Hot Metal irons w/Recoil 95's
Glide 50/55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110's
Ping Anser putter - the "real deal!"

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:30 PM

View PostJack Pearsall, on 21 November 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

Hogan Forged wedge. Fantastic balance, workable bounce. Elegant. No longer made. Older Cleveland 588s. Cast but consistent. Nice weighting, good bounce. Elegant look.

I shouldn't have to tell you that Jack Pearsall is always right, but he is.   Hogan Forged were amazing, still are. I had a 50/10 that was the best single wedge i have ever had.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:40 PM

View PostMadGolfer76, on 21 November 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

View Postmweaver84, on 21 November 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

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Alien Wedges all the way!!

Dude, that is an abomination!


(...and I have hit one, before)

Space..... The final frontier.

My father-in-law carries one of these and Cleveland VAS irons.  I'm not even kidding.  Seriously just image this for minute.  He's brilliant and wealthy though.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:43 PM

View Posthebron1427, on 20 November 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

588 RTG. Played them long after they went away, and now they're back as the "forged" version

Agree. I still play my old version.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:55 PM

View Postbullie76, on 23 November 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

View Posthebron1427, on 20 November 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

588 RTG. Played them long after they went away, and now they're back as the "forged" version

Agree. I still play my old version.

Love 'em. I always carry 51-56-60 and sometimne throw in a 45 and/or 64.
TM '07 Burner TP 8.5 Protopype 80X
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