bph7, on 20 November 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:
To those of you who for some reason think anyone interested in adding yardage to their irons is just an idiot and that it's going to hurt their games: Get over yourselves. If you don't want the extra distance or are convinced that there is no added distance and it's all smoke and mirrors, then don't buy them. A lot of us are excited about this new technology and it appears that everyone who has seriously tried them has noticed great distance gains and improved dispersion. Sure, the lofts may be stronger, but most are reporting a club and a half or more of distance, which the loft would not alone account for. Also, TMAG has even said that they are longer than the Rocketballz, which HAVE THE SAME LOFTS. Also, NOT A SINGLE PERSON YET has said "you know what, I hit the 7, but I could tell all along that it was really a 6", everyone has generally just noticed added distance and accuracy over the same club in their current set, which has more loft and so at the very least should have tighter dispersion. So, even though this may be coming from some dumb idiot who is apparently going to need 7 wedges, let me just say, I don't need your help setting up my bag, I'll just try these for myself and see if they work.
Settle down with the childish name calling and aggressiveness, nobody is telling you how to set up your bag; relax. This is a discussion about the new irons and obviously technology in these irons play a HUGE role. Everyone is absolutely positively correct in regards to lashing out and pondering at them given the track record TMAG has with overhyping their products. These irons are no different. Nobody wants to tell you how to set up your bag, lol...
However, I'd like to point out that you're wrong when you say that not a single person has noticed odd distance changes and you might want to re-read some of the others who have demo'd these irons, there are a lot of negative feedback, just as much there are positives. To say this is NEW technology is also totally wrong http://www.golfwrx.c...dez-technology/
Back to the discussion; the irons. To me they look pretty ugly, the name is rather silly, and I don't buy the distance benefits stuff they're pushing. One of the reps agrees that the previous distance irons were inconsistently hot off the face and says that the "speed pocket" manages this but he couldn't fully explain why, I think he hard a time *really* understanding the product himself! I used to game the Burner 2.0's which were hyped up the same way these were. I found the distance so inconsistent on them to the point where I was using a 9i when I normally used a PW, and I used a 8i where I normally used a 6i!! None of it made any sense so I gave the irons away, that was my second set of "distance irons" from TM that they've hyped up and that have failed. I decided to give TM another chance and bought into their Tour Preferred line first with the TM CB and then to the TM MC's and have been happy simply because there is not all of this technology crap surrounding them. They're consistent, they look nice in simplicity, they don't have a silly name attached them and they sure as hell are not categorized as new technology from old technology; Wilson already had a "this little thing". I am not against technology but this "technology" is hard to swallow.
In any case, thanks for the comparison. I'll give them a shot at the range for a few weeks but I suspect they'll be like the burner 2.0's, rocketballz and the entire distance iron lines (burners) for every year their marketing is the same.
I am not a TM hater; on the contrary. My entire bag is TM except my putter and the balls I play. What I am not a fan of is the hype they put into their products.
Edited by tdelam, 21 November 2012 - 11:56 AM.
Ping G25 10.5° TFC 189 Stiff
Ping G25 18° Tour TFC 189 Stiff
Adams Idea Super S 22° Matrix Kujoh
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