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JPX 800 Pro vs. JPX 825 Pro

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:57 AM

What are the differences in these two irons?  Performance, playability, looks, forgiveness, feel etc.  Anyone demo both and find any differences?  Which one did you find to be a better iron set?  Thanks....

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:13 AM

I played 800 Pros for 2 seasons and absolutely loved them.  I was coming from a TM Burner set which I hated.  Anyways, 800 Pros are extremely forgiving and workable with a buttery feel typical of Mizuno.  Probably the best forgiving "game improvement" forged set on the market (But now 825s).

And now the 825 Pros....Pretty much the exact characteristics of the 800s EXCEPT for the looks.  825 Pros look SO much nicer at address.  Thinner top line and possibly shorter blade length in the short irons, but if so, not by much at all.  I'm not crazy for the graphic insert on the cavity, but you have to get over that quick IMHO.

I would easily jump on the 825s over the 800s...and I wish the 800s looked like the 825s when I bought my set 2 years ago.  Not like anyone really cares, but I just moved on from 800 Pros to MP-53s.  My ball striking greatly improved after gaming 800 Pros for 2 seasons and wanted to move on to a smaller head with better looks, but keep somewhat of the forgiveness.  New sticks should be arriving today.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:32 AM

Agree with Brianm423, I thought the 825 Pros looked a lot better. I tried them with the Project X PXI irons and the 825s felt amazing. I also tried both the 800 and 825 with TTDG S300 shafts, and imo, I thought the 825s felt a bit softer.

In all honesty, they performed similarly for me, but in regards to look/feel, the 825 Pros definitely won.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:40 AM

I'm looking at getting into a set of MP-53's or JPX-825 Pros.  What are the differences you seeing in terms of performance between the two?
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:44 AM

View Postjabroni23, on 19 November 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

I'm looking at getting into a set of MP-53's or JPX-825 Pros.  What are the differences you seeing in terms of performance between the two?
Same here, any thoughts between the 53s and 825 pros?

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:44 AM

I'm a 6 or 7 handicap, and hit my driver 235ish (210 in cold, soft conditions).  I play AP1's.  The JPX 825 line looks good - if I were playing them, I would play the regular 825's in the longer irons (4 or 5 to 7-iron) and JPX 825 Pros in the short irons.  That is pretty much what I do with AP1's and AP2's some of the time.  I also play the AP2 PW.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:54 AM

View Postrobengel, on 19 November 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

View Postjabroni23, on 19 November 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

I'm looking at getting into a set of MP-53's or JPX-825 Pros.  What are the differences you seeing in terms of performance between the two?
Same here, any thoughts between the 53s and 825 pros?

I haven't hit the MP 53s, but I did hit the MP 64s, and the 64s are the replacement to the 53s. In terms of the 64s, they felt very soft and looked really nice. They're definitely harsher on you compared to the JPX 825 Pros if you don't consistently hit them in the middle, but I didn't personally think the 64s were that hard to hit. The JPX 825 Pros are definitely more forgiving then the 64s since they are somewhat of a GI.

My bro who plays JPX 825 Pros compared them to the 64s, and he definitely said that when he hits shots thin with the 825 Pros, he doesn't feel too much vibration but definitely knows by the sound. Where else, when he hits shots thin with the 64s, he definitely feels it. But again, he's still a beginner but even he thought that the 64s weren't impossible to hit, and he raved about the softness of the 64s.

All in all, go out and hit them both and go with the set you're more comfortable/confident with. More specifically, go with the set that will allow you to have fun playing golf, on top of scoring low.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:44 PM

Gamed jpx800 pro and hit 825 pro

825 has a much nicer look in short irons and seems they feel a Lil better but idk if that's true

For sure they look better

Didn't care for 800

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:50 PM

View Postlettucebcereal, on 19 November 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

View Postrobengel, on 19 November 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

View Postjabroni23, on 19 November 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

I'm looking at getting into a set of MP-53's or JPX-825 Pros.  What are the differences you seeing in terms of performance between the two?
Same here, any thoughts between the 53s and 825 pros?

I haven't hit the MP 53s, but I did hit the MP 64s, and the 64s are the replacement to the 53s. In terms of the 64s, they felt very soft and looked really nice. They're definitely harsher on you compared to the JPX 825 Pros if you don't consistently hit them in the middle, but I didn't personally think the 64s were that hard to hit. The JPX 825 Pros are definitely more forgiving then the 64s since they are somewhat of a GI.

My bro who plays JPX 825 Pros compared them to the 64s, and he definitely said that when he hits shots thin with the 825 Pros, he doesn't feel too much vibration but definitely knows by the sound. Where else, when he hits shots thin with the 64s, he definitely feels it. But again, he's still a beginner but even he thought that the 64s weren't impossible to hit, and he raved about the softness of the 64s.

All in all, go out and hit them both and go with the set you're more comfortable/confident with. More specifically, go with the set that will allow you to have fun playing golf, on top of scoring low.

Sorry, but that just isn't correct. The 53's are much more forgiving and less of a players club compared to the 64s. we can debate how easier or hard the 64s are to hit, but the 64s were never meant as a replacement to the 53s.

There isn't technically a replacement to the 53s. The H4s are close, but completely different in terms of looks.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:07 PM

View PostHoosierMizuno, on 19 November 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

View Postlettucebcereal, on 19 November 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

View Postrobengel, on 19 November 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

View Postjabroni23, on 19 November 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

I'm looking at getting into a set of MP-53's or JPX-825 Pros.  What are the differences you seeing in terms of performance between the two?
Same here, any thoughts between the 53s and 825 pros?

I haven't hit the MP 53s, but I did hit the MP 64s, and the 64s are the replacement to the 53s. In terms of the 64s, they felt very soft and looked really nice. They're definitely harsher on you compared to the JPX 825 Pros if you don't consistently hit them in the middle, but I didn't personally think the 64s were that hard to hit. The JPX 825 Pros are definitely more forgiving then the 64s since they are somewhat of a GI.

My bro who plays JPX 825 Pros compared them to the 64s, and he definitely said that when he hits shots thin with the 825 Pros, he doesn't feel too much vibration but definitely knows by the sound. Where else, when he hits shots thin with the 64s, he definitely feels it. But again, he's still a beginner but even he thought that the 64s weren't impossible to hit, and he raved about the softness of the 64s.

All in all, go out and hit them both and go with the set you're more comfortable/confident with. More specifically, go with the set that will allow you to have fun playing golf, on top of scoring low.

Sorry, but that just isn't correct. The 53's are much more forgiving and less of a players club compared to the 64s. we can debate how easier or hard the 64s are to hit, but the 64s were never meant as a replacement to the 53s.

There isn't technically a replacement to the 53s. The H4s are close, but completely different in terms of looks.

Correct.  According to Mizuno customer service, which I talked to recently, Mizuno has nothing in line to replace the 53s...and nothing new at all until next fall.  Pretty much the reason why I pulled the trigger on new 53s last week.  Didn't want to wait around for next fall and wanted something in the MP line that I know I'll be able to play for a while (I say that now haha).


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:24 PM

I have 800 Pro's which I love and think are the best irons I've ever hit.  Today, I went into a shop and messed around with the 825 Pro 6i and the MP64 6i.

To me, the diferences in the 800 Pro vice 825 Pro are:

1. Sight - topline - the 825 has a slightly thinner topline...  very pretty club from a setup position, especially for its slightly chunkish size.
2. The  head seems just a little shorter or more compact (might just be my imagination, but still...)
3. the 825 has a bigger sweet spot even though the club head is smaller.
4. The ball carries (for me) about 5 yd longer, but not really - it just seems to do that more frequently since the sweet spot is bigger (I guess).
5. I can still work the ball rt to left or vice versa.
What else is there?

Again, I love my 800's, but like Brianm423, I wish I could afford to upgrade to the 825's.  They seem a  nicer tool set for me.

Now, to the MP64's.

1.  Silk.  Silk.  Best CB forged I've ever hit - longer, softer, and seemed better than the MP53's, and felt perfect for my game (YMMV).
2.  Smaller sweet spot, but every bit as much carry as the 825's on good hits - just not as forgiving on bad ones.
3.  I love these clubs.

If I had to choose on a new set:
1.  I would get Mizuno.  Nobody else.
2. For my game (9.8 index, frequent player, 6i about 160 carry and 175 total), 825 versus 64 would be a very hard choice. In the end it would probably be the 825 pro's.

Hope this helps.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:48 PM

My bad. THey looked similar so I thought the 64s were the replacement to the 53s. But the 64s really did surprise me, because I thought I would suck with them, but they're not as hard as I thought they would be.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 06:43 PM

View Postlettucebcereal, on 19 November 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

My bad. THey looked similar so I thought the 64s were the replacement to the 53s. But the 64s really did surprise me, because I thought I would suck with them, but they're not as hard as I thought they would be.

I agree the 64 is magnificent, but for most of us, playing 30 rounds with 3-pw 825 pros and 30 with the mp64 3-pw we would have a better average score with the 825 (which BTW plays soft for being so forgiving and having such a large sweet spot).
BUT if you put feel before scoring (which I can respect without a problem that some people want) buy the mp64 or maybe rather mp69, faaaaantastic irons :)
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:09 PM

Think you will find that the MP64 is a direct replacement for the MP63, and rumour has it the MP54 will be out later in the year....although i may be right in thinking that like the MP ball range its asia/europe only, as the US has the full set of MP-H4, while here in europe we can only get up to the 5-iron in the MP-H4.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:20 PM

I though mizuno was going to drop the mp53 line. Having the h4,53,59,64,and 69 all aimed at pretty  much the same handicap range is a lot of clubs.

View Postnaths, on 16 February 2013 - 07:09 PM, said:

Think you will find that the MP64 is a direct replacement for the MP63, and rumour has it the MP54 will be out later in the year....although i may be right in thinking that like the MP ball range its asia/europe only, as the US has the full set of MP-H4, while here in europe we can only get up to the 5-iron in the MP-H4.


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:29 PM

There is something about the jpx825 pro irons that I keep going back to when I demo clubs.  They feel so solid, and the golf store LMs always seem to report a jump up in ball speed with these over anything else I've tried.  Without the gimmick of slots in the heads, while having a good looking design with great feel, they've created an iron that produces a lot of distance.





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